Looking at ABV can tell a lot about the device used to vaporize it. Everyone has differing opinions, so lets see some real comparisons. Please post pics of your ABV and the devises used. Do you vape till it is golden brown, or near black? Is your bud evenly and consistently vaped? What does the ideal ABV look like? I will get some pics up later, but the difference in my ABV from my Plenty is totally different than the ABV from my Lotus. The first being completely uniform in color, and completely consistent looking; the later being speckled with dark spots and other parts not vaped at all (much less consistent). I think having pictures as reference can help buyers make easier decisions for their next vape, and provide some guidance if one is over-vaping (or under-vaping) their buds. Here are a few bowls from my Lotus- note the mixed result and uneven vape. I have gotten better with this device as I get more time with it, but there is certainly a learning curve. This looks completely different than my uniformly vaped Plenty buds (Plenty ABV pics will be uploaded later).