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Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by hazy, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. natural farmer

    natural farmer god is in the neurons...

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    Got in the beta list as well! I don't usually jump in for beta products but that looks like pure genius design man! If it can reach 220-230C and have a good airflow, oh boy, I can't wait! :ko:
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  2. NewVape

    NewVape Got Glass?

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    I shot Hazy an email about beta testing when this was still on the New Thread Candidates thread. I use a log vape as my daily and am super excited for this one. You can be I'll be posting about it, camera battery is all charged and everything.
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  3. dorkus_molorkus

    dorkus_molorkus My member is well known

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    I must chime in & proudly announce that I am lucky enough to be on the beta wait list & cant wait to fog up the pod!

    woo-hoo! :D
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  4. natural farmer

    natural farmer god is in the neurons...

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    Oh Hazy... The more I look at the photos the more I fall in love with your design. Pls throw us a vid of the prototype in action so we can drool some more... :) Maybe through some glass too? How about a short GonG stem for it? Is it on your plans?
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  5. hazy

    hazy dreamer Manufacturer

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    After a few discussions and thinking about it for a while, I've come up with a slight modification which I'll get made into a prototype hopefully next week. This does delay everything by a week but there's not much choice, I've really got to make this thing as good as it can be. There has been some progress though, I've figured out the numbers and started ordering some parts for the beta pods. You can be certain that I'm as eager to get these things sent out as you are.

    To answer your questions ili, I'll leave it up to the beta testers to post the videos. Unfortunately I can't show you anything with glass, I don't own any. I do have a design in mind for a short gg stem but I don't know where I'd get it made. There's no way I can do it myself. I would definitely like to have one in the catalogue though.

    I appreciate everyone's enthusiastic comments and patience with this process. I hope the results live up to your expectations.
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  6. natural farmer

    natural farmer god is in the neurons...

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    No rush mate, take your time and give it to the world when it reaches the highest standards! The more you play with it :cool:, the more perfect it 'll come out. :D This is the only way to have minimal complaints from the worst of us, right? :lol: It will also give some time to the poorer of us to raise some stupid money...
    Another thing, I wonder if there is a play down there where the tube surrounds the heating element. You said it's only suspended, right? Also, by the slight movement of the inner tube downwards, in case we push the stem too much, won't the airflow be hindered? If I have imagined this correctly the up and down movement could have a great impact to airflow and subsequently the temps. Except if it's really really hard to move it, but again, can it be re-adjusted easily if it happens?
    And a last thought... Maybe a short piece of glass tube could be inserted instead of the stem and use a silicon stem (UD style) as well if needed, what do you thing? That could be a simple glass stem too I guess...:2c:

    PS: remind me what that avatar of yours depicts mate, I have seen it so many times and liked it but can't recall the name... Is it Pan? :p
  7. scottio19

    scottio19 scotty

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    another log maker, right on!
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  8. hazy

    hazy dreamer Manufacturer

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    It's not Pan, it's a small section taken from a surrealist painting ;)

    The tube is only suspended from the top but there is no movement. If you push downwards it won't move. The centre tube can be pushed upwards from underneath by removing the heating element and using a dowel to push it through.

    I've made a short stem which might work with glass. Looking at what others have done, I took a guess and made a short glass stem covered with 13mm silicone tubing. Hopefully that would fit in the down stem of a bong? I'm hoping to have a chat with cookie from Wychwood Vaporizers about it. He's got some nice looking glass stems :brow: Also, things might change when I get the new prototype, but here is the short stem I have made so far, it's 35mm long.

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  9. natural farmer

    natural farmer god is in the neurons...

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    Thanks for the answers hazy! :)
    The small stem looks great, simple and effective. What's the OD of the silicon? I think the 1/2" ones will fit a 14mm GonG. I remember people using SSV silicon tubing for glass tubes, either on a Solo stem or other vapes. I think the ID was 3/8".
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  10. bleak

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    Whoah!! Badass!!! Is this the first Australian vape?? You make me proud :)

    I remember camping by the beach when i was young, and we'd collect the Banksia pods to throw around, play games with etc (I'm from Melbourne)
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  11. hazy

    hazy dreamer Manufacturer

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    They make good firewood too :o I'm also from Melbourne... and still here.
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  12. jambandphan03

    jambandphan03 Vapor Goddess

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    Very nice looking vape! :tup:
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  13. hazy

    hazy dreamer Manufacturer

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    Hot Pod v2

    I'm pleased to present version 2! The new version features a redesigned heat port. As much as I liked some of the advantages of the push-in silicone connection, I believe the new design is more versatile and robust. The stem is no longer inserted into silicone, instead it just drops into the hole in the top. It's a slightly loose fit. The rim of the stem forms a seal against the silicone ring:

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    This design allows larger stems to be used. It is designed for 12mm OD glass stems, with an ID of 10mm, 9mm, or 8mm. The 10mm ID feels very unrestricted. I've ordered some 8mm ID tubing which should feel similar to my original stems, except that the glass is thicker. The idea is to use the different size stems depending on what kind of dosage I want.

    Here's a shot giving some idea of relative sizes. The PD doesn't get any use these days :p

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    The new version is easier to assemble and uses about a quarter of the amount of silicone compared to the original.

    EDIT: I think the new version looks nicer too :)
  14. tuscan tins

    tuscan tins Well-Known Member

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    Looks awesome dude!
    Do you think 14mm glass would line up with that? I've got a 14mm OD tube -> gong piece that would be nice to use with this.
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  15. hazy

    hazy dreamer Manufacturer

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    No unfortunately it's strictly 12mm OD. I hope to find someone who can make me a 12mm OD GG piece. In the meantime we will need to make do with silicone. I've ordered a sample of 18mm OD silicone which will hopefully be useful with bongs.
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  16. bleak

    bleak Well-Known Member

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    Cool! I'll be moving back home later this year, so maybe I can buy a Hot Pod from you in person :)
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  17. stickstones

    stickstones Wasted Staff Member

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    nice hazy! that thing is the size of a HI. You should talk to Alan about glass stems
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  18. NewVape

    NewVape Got Glass?

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    Looking pretty spiff! Like the new design, the stem looks much more stable on this one. *2thumbsup*
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  19. OhTheAgony

    OhTheAgony here for the chicks

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    Thanks for the update Hazy :tup:

    Just out of curiosity, but why did you change the design if I may ask? I kinda liked the idea of the seal the silicon made before, although I do have some doubts about the durability of silicon that close to the heater.
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  20. hazy

    hazy dreamer Manufacturer

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    Haven't seen you around for a while OTA. Been visiting your friends over the border again?

    I like the silicone seal as well, but it only allows a 10mm OD stem to be used. The airflow is better than my PD, but I've had several requests for a "high airflow" vape. The new design allows larger diameter stems to be used, which increases the airflow a lot. There wasn't any other way I could think of doing it neatly without a fundamental change to the heat port design. The disadvantage is that if you knock over the pod then the stem will easily fall out. However, the stem still makes a great seal with the glass rim sitting against the silicone ring. It should work well with bongs because you can leave the stem in the bong, and the pod just drops over it. No need to hunt around to find the heat port ;) Now I just need to get some short stems made...

    By using stems with different wall thicknesses, you can choose the kind of experience you like. Some people like the restricted feeling, it's kind of like smoking a joint and it's economical. Others like large loads with high airflow. It's always good to have options :D

    Lately I've been enjoying using a 9mm ID stem for direct draw. It's a nice compromise between the "restricted" stem and the high airflow stem. Clouds are huge and effortless :ko:
  21. bleak

    bleak Well-Known Member

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    The improvements sound really good, hazy! Extra compatibility with bongs is always a good thing :rockon:
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  22. NewVape

    NewVape Got Glass?

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    And with this design it may be possible to do a GonG stem. I use my CRZ in a similar way. I load it and put it on a little bubbler and when I want to medicate I flip the Zap over and set it on the stem. :tup:
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  23. hazy

    hazy dreamer Manufacturer

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    Yes that's the idea. Unfortunately I don't have any experience with GG joints. I need to find someone who can make them.
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  24. dorkus_molorkus

    dorkus_molorkus My member is well known

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    finding a glassblower in oz is like finding unicorn shit. According to some both are said to exist and even when you think you have found one....................

    Its usually just some wannabe with an ice cream cone taped to his head pretending to be a unicorn( glassblower.) who wants $60 for a WPA that you can get shipped out of the US for $25.

    Any glassblowers I have spoken to in NSW were all artists, & they either dont want the work cuz theyre an artist, and/or dont want to be associated with MJ. No one I spoke to knew any scientific glass blowers anywhere. (and i rang everyone in NSW inc se QLD)

    I could find someone to teach me, but no-one within a 500 klm radius & it was reccomended you needed a couple of lessons a week for quite a while to learn enough to start to self teach & practice.
    and the cost was prohibitive as well.

    But that was my experience in NSW, you might fare better in your state. good luck :tup:
  25. hazy

    hazy dreamer Manufacturer

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    Haha yes I've had similar experiences to you. I do know some scientific glassblowers but they tend to ask too many questions and I doubt they would be sympathetic to my cause :\

    I've started contacting glassblowers in the US which is probably the best option at this stage. If anyone has any recommendations...

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