Discontinued The RBT Milaana (unregulated single 18650)

grokit said:

It's starting to seem to me like rbt is trying to make some kind of point here.
Because it would be quite difficult to randomly fuck this up so much.

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I think he threw every address into a hat and picked em out and tossed them a Milaana.

Fastest way, but least organized and helpful way.

I love Rbt. He is a twisted mother fucker but he has a huge heart and he's dumped all of it into these vaporizers.
I promise you that the 420 roll out that no one had confirmations on wasn't done out of spite it was because he wanted to surprise people and try to get these impressive fucking vaporizers in our hands. He might not noodle everything through 100% but he is really giving more to this venture then any of us know. Except tkw and mr.p they actually socialize with the madman.

Bravesst said:

Just arrived.... Can we reduce bowl size with an inverted dome screen, crushed?

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Oh nice dude! Didn't know you came back around on this, been a long while, you're in for a treat

Bowl can be an size you want, with screen in either direction, many tips for that been discussed here very recently. I'd suggest reading the last few pages as people have been receiving them...

@grokit I think the only point is for him there is no point (in an order or whatever)

My speculation as far as the flub up with the order in which units have shipped. I have not seen RBT much as the factory is a distance from my farm compared to his home so again just speculation.

Ryan busted a move to try and make the 4/20 surprise for people. In the chaos he most likely sorted a spreadsheet or database by name or some other variable instead of date. As we all know he is not a business man. He is the only engineer I know that sucks with computers (except CAD).

His new office employee is probably trying to make a working system, while cleaning up his mess and getting everyone their vapes in a timely manner.

I can 100% guarantee there was zero malice, ill will or evil reason for shipping these units to people "out of order." Sloppy yes. Vindictive not a chance.

Everyone should have there vapes quick like and it should be available world wide soon via his retail deals.


It sounds like everyone is enjoying Milaana. I am hoping those that are still waiting enjoy it when it arrives. It really is worthy of waiting.

Happy to see everyone is enjoying their Milaana's!! Mine is still pumping out tasty vapor and my grasshopper hasn't even been touched since I got Milaana. The versatility is truly amazing once you get the hang of it.

MrPeanut said:

It really is worthy of waiting.

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Whether it be >six months or <six days
edit: I ordered mine in back in september so working on month eight

I'm stoked my Milaana is here but I didn't get myself a charger yet. (plenty of lighters but no charger lol)
Since I'm expecting a Zion to arrive someday, I'm thinking of buying a 4-bay NiteCore D4. Any opinions? Do the advantages outweigh the extra cost?

I have both the D2 and the D4. They both work quite well, and I like the digital readout. Much more accurate than the bars and it helps to know when to put them back on the charger.

If you intend to have both the Zion and Milaana, definitely get the D4. More doors, no waiting...

So I have a solution to the ISO vs American glass joint problem... http://www.shopxhale.com/products/2919 ...the bottom joint on mine is maybe 1mm shorter than the Mi stem and you can fit any length in the top. It fits snug in the Mi, better than the stem that came with it.

Been through one battery already. This thing is great. I snuck in session 3 right after my last post...it was PureGold on the concentrate mesh. I put two good size dabs worth in the material and loaded it so that the Gold was furthest away from the heater. The first hit was incredible...I thought I hit my Supreme for a second. Effect and vapor production/density. I was heavy on the button but I figure I had less to worry about because of concentrate. I got a few more good cloudy hits and then two wispy rubber tire tasting hits.

Then the wife got home with the kids. We ate dinner and then took a family walk around the neighborhood. Perfect oppurtunity for session 4. Our two boys rode their bikes out front while I walked slightly behind the wifey as she pushed our baby girl in the stroller. I was able to easily keep up with them as I vaped away some more ground up U2.

After my oldest (5) son finished his homework and we put the boys to bed I had to run to costco. Great oppurtunity for session 5 with some more ground up U2.

A battery swap and a chunk each of blue dream and purple urkle on the way home made for session 6.

Then I got home and found the glass attachment I posted above and was too stoked to start session 7 before telling you guys. Now I was thinking about running session 7 through water but I have yet to try the short stem so I think Pineapple and the short stem is next.

I have a feeling the Supreme will get its first night of rest since I got it. Not that this thing can put the Supreme on the shelf for me, but I can surely let her get one night of rest.

I am sorry to hear those early orders still have not gotten their Mi's or even an email. I hope that you all get your Mi very soon. It sucks to be thrown to the back of the line for no reason and thats basically what happened here I think. You guys are tremendous for holding out from lashing out and I feel once you have the vape you will feel it compensates for the wait and the unneccessary and unworthy musical chairs scenario with the order. It certainly did for me.

That's comforting @nosmoking supreme has been on my want list for a while. Sent another email through the website explaining my change of email and updating my new one for shipping confirmation. Makes zero sense why they have shipped like this, as I gathered at the start it was a first in best dress type set up. As for lashing out, as referenced before if George told the soup Nazibti fuck right off, he'd never eat another lobster bisque again they are a funny breed those geniuses.

I love me a good lobster bisque. Session 8 is wrecking me. Had to change the battery out after session 7 cause I stuck a whole .25 gram nugget of Afgoo in the short stem. My short stem has an imperfection at the mouthpiece lip but oh well. I roasted one side with a few hits, poped it out turned it around and stuffed it back in, roasted that side with a few hits, stabbed it stirred it hit it a couple more times and checked for full extraction which I was reassured on upon inspection. You would have thought that would have had me in right there and though it was close I am giving it up to session 8. Session 8 was a .1 nugget or slightly more of Afgoo. I put that one on the water bong and 3 or 4 hits later she was about spent. How can I not remember 3 or 4? Im ocd with numbers... Anyway session 8, she did me good there. But wait, session 8 is not over yet...to not be continued!

Oh yeah, fucking flavor train with the shorty stem! No problems with heat on the Mi for me and I got a pretty sensitive throat IMO. Lots of scar tissue and missing parts in there

grokit said:

Whether it be >six months or <six days
edit: I ordered mine in back in september so working on month eight

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Yes I understand your frustration....personnaly I don't complain but my order is a lot more young than your and I'm international (but more than 6 days old! maybe 6 weeks)).
If it's a surprise for some of us , it's a bad joke for others, it doesn't seems too difficult to follow the history of orders (even including internationals).

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Bizkat said:

I'm stoked my Milaana is here but I didn't get myself a charger yet. (plenty of lighters but no charger lol)
Since I'm expecting a Zion to arrive someday, I'm thinking of buying a 4-bay NiteCore D4. Any opinions? Do the advantages outweigh the extra cost?

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Xtar VP2 for a 2 bay charger and for a 4 bay charger OPUS 3100 v2.2

Nitecore is OK too....but nothing special and no analyzer functions like the Opus

If you want best of the best SkyRC MC3000.....if you are willing to do some research and use it to it's potential

PPN said:

Yes I understand your frustration....personnaly I don't complain but my order is a lot more young than your and I'm international (but more than 6 days old! maybe 6 weeks)).
If it's a surprise for some of us , it's a bad joke for others, it doesn't seems too difficult to follow the history of orders (even including internationals).

If you want to make nice surprises to some guys it's better to to tell them to don't post about their Milaana since there is a lot of loyal customers waiting for their Mi or Zion, I would be ashamed to post here if I ordered only 6 days ago and already received my Mi....

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Nah, you new owners keep posting pic's and descriptions please

I've been waiting since the end of the first pre-order batch, but it's no big deal to read of new folk getting theirs earlier than me.
I'll get one eventually, and although I'm really excited to get mine, reading about others new adventures with their Milaana's is still good!
It's reassuring to know they're going out, and that folk are liking the results.

MOAR PIC'S PLEASE!

Yes keep sharing, with its hard containing yourself in preorder purgatory and it stings to read about others luck at time... I know when I get mine I'll have zero concern for those waiting after me!

Copacetic said:

Nah, you new owners keep posting pic's and descriptions please

I've been waiting since the end of the first pre-order batch, but it's no big deal to read of new folk getting theirs earlier than me.
I'll get one eventually, and although I'm really excited to get mine, reading about others new adventures with their Milaana's is still good!
It's reassuring to know they're going out, and that folk are liking the results.

MOAR PIC'S PLEASE!

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Yes I like new pics too and I'm sorry to be harsh but this situation is very strange and makes some people nervous...8 months old for grokit my friend,....it's a lot and I understand his frustration!

In my personnal situation I expect to receive a shipping notice (or not) soon and maybe the Mi for the next week....so I haven't to complain, I just complain for all this earlier pre-orders which makes the dream possible!

edit: Yes, share!

Yea I'm a little surprised that ordering in September I Havnt heard word yet, hell even an email reply would go down well, but it feels sooooo close!

i believe I am the last domestic order to get shipped out. I had a problem where paypal was holding my funds because I filed a dispute which caused a delay. It's fixed and have a tracking number.

I talked to sheila and she said they were waiting on new buttons for the international orders btw

vaplen said:

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I talked sheila and she said they were waiting on new buttons for the international orders btw

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Send it without a switch!
I have one that will definitely fit perfectly! :

Just wanted to post a follow up to my initial impressions:

The effects of this vape are very very strong. Granted, I roasted about 8 or 9 stems in total yesterday, when usually I only do around 2 stems a day... but I spent an hour and a half staring out my window yesterday and didnt even realize it, then ate an entire bag of granola. I'm definitely getting the hang of this thing, it's really fun and easy to use.

I suspect my unit is tuned a little cooler than some other people's based on their descriptions. I keep the screen really close to the end of the stem, and have only had a little charring. Based on my early experience I think I'd really have to hold the button down for a long time to combust. My unit did not come with instructions, and I dont remember if this was discussed in here... but is there a recommendation for a time limit for a continuous button hold?

I did feel bad about receiving the thing so quickly, and I'm sorry if that upset people. However, I figured transparency was best, and I tried to write a detailed post (i'm NOT a writer at all lol, I dictated most of it) in an attempt to give back a little bit to this super helpful forum.

I do think some of the speed with which i received it has to do with my geographic proximity to RBT (the total transit time was 16 hours). Also if it makes anyone feel better, I've been waiting on a Zion for over 8 months myself, so I am quite empathetic.

vaplen said:

i believe I am the last domestic order to get shipped out. I had a problem where paypal was holding my funds because I filed a dispute which caused a delay. It's fixed and have a tracking number.

I talked to sheila and she said they were waiting on new buttons for the international orders btw

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I love this button, so I will go ahead and be the first to say. Way to go fucking this up @RastaBuddhaTao. With the out of order shipping, surprise shipping and now not having buttons he really made a shit show of the Milaana launch. I still personally have high hopes for RBT as well as his products but he really needs to learn from this, or Sheila better be good at her job and better come on full time. This was only 100 vaporizers and he is expecting to be able to manufacture 50 a week or something like that I believe. Get it together man! Get a system and follow it! You have created some unbelievable tech, but you have to be able to deliver.

After one night and one morning drive in with the Mi I can confidently say she is worth the frustration. I was relocated in the line as well and it was frustrating to watch. I can't say that is anything close to the frustration I would be feeling if I was one of those early orders that were domestic or international that have not received their units yet. Find a way guys, hang in there!

tblast said:

I suspect my unit is tuned a little cooler than some other people's based on their descriptions. I keep the screen really close to the end of the stem, and have only had a little charring. Based on my early experience I think I'd really have to hold the button down for a long time to combust.

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I don't know really, it was the case with Zion already: yes you can combust, but you really need to like "playing with fire" (pun intended) to do it. When hitting it dry you usually know well in advance that you are in the process of overdoing it. The Mi with fresh battery is like a Zi set to full power but again if you pay attention to what you are doing it should be fine.

I think most combustion reports were either from testers purposedly pushing their device to the limit and/or users with elephant lungs hitting their device through large water bongs where there is a lag between the vapor produced and the vapor you inhale (you have to clear all that volume before tasting that it's too late...)

But I might be wrong of course, there is apparently still some variation in the heater tunings. I hoped the new production process would even that out but it's still mostly hand-crafted and not an exact science.

tblast said:

Just wanted to post a follow up to my initial impressions:

The effects of this vape are very very strong. Granted, I roasted about 8 or 9 stems in total yesterday, when usually I only do around 2 stems a day... but I spent an hour and a half staring out my window yesterday and didnt even realize it, then ate an entire bag of granola. I'm definitely getting the hang of this thing, it's really fun and easy to use.

I suspect my unit is tuned a little cooler than some other people's based on their descriptions. I keep the screen really close to the end of the stem, and have only had a little charring. Based on my early experience I think I'd really have to hold the button down for a long time to combust. My unit did not come with instructions, and I dont remember if this was discussed in here... but is there a recommendation for a time limit for a continuous button hold?

I did feel bad about receiving the thing so quickly, and I'm sorry if that upset people. However, I figured transparency was best, and I tried to write a detailed post (i'm NOT a writer at all lol, I dictated most of it) in an attempt to give back a little bit to this super helpful forum.

I do think some of the speed with which i received it has to do with my geographic proximity to RBT (the total transit time was 16 hours). Also if it makes anyone feel better, I've been waiting on a Zion for over 8 months myself, so I am quite empathetic.

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Can't say for sure, but limit would be dependent on battery level so for a preheat prob no more than 2-8 seconds, and total length during a hit maybe 10-15 seconds or so? Again it's also dependent on draw pack et al, I'm sure your Milaana is capable of combustion, it just seems like you got the hang of it quickly and can intuitively avoid it without any effort, which is as it should be really. In a couple weeks we can all move on from the whole pre order order thing

I would also have to hold the button down a really long time to ever combust. Like 10 real seconds might get me a dark spot. But my flowers are very dense and grown/harvest well so there is plenty of natural moisture in them. I find Afgoo to stay moist the entire way through the load so it seems impossible to combust. Purple Urkle is a little drier so it will get a hot spot by 4th hit and could probably combust but I never feel that close because it's just too simple to read the vapor IMHO.

The one time I have combusted with Bam Bam, as I described above, was completely user error. I forgot that since taking my last hit I had changed the battery. Oops. Holding the button down nearly 10 sec on a fresh battery is a bad idea...

On another note, I have never done concentrates and rarely see them, but recently have been offered some a few times. I have considered it, but didn't want to invest in hardware specifically for it. If Mi is good at it, I may just give it a shot after all. Just would like to avoid any unnecessary and expense of getting dab specific equipment...