Discontinued The Grasshopper
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End of April Update
Hello Everyone,
April was super successful. The recent updates to everyone’s shipping estimates have been on target. Orders that were currently estimated to ship in April have all been sent address confirmation emails. We have even gotten a head start on orders that are currently estimated to ship in May. About 100 orders that are estimated to ship in May have already been sent! We are working very hard to stay on top of our shipping schedule and meet our current shipping estimates. We sincerely thank you all for hanging in there with us as we do so.
As some of you have requested to see footage of the new equipment, we have included a video of our pick & place machine. This machine can process 8500 components per-hour, pulling them from tape and placing them onto printed circuit boards. We’ve been running the machine 12 hours per-day to keep production rolling.
Many of you have been asking how you can view your shipping estimates. This is best accessed from your account on GHVape.com. We recommend using a computer to log in to your account and select your order status from the “Account” drop down menu. As always, if you have trouble with this, you can email us atsupport@grasshoppervape.com.
The new warranty system is online now. Anyone who needs warranty service will have to register their device on their GHVape.com account. Indiegogo backers have been automatically registered. For pre-orders that are registering their Grasshopper, you will need your Warranty ID Code from the back of your black Grasshopper box and the serial number from the top of your Grasshopper. All serial numbers start with GS or GT for either Stainless Steel or Titanium units. Again, if you have any trouble with this, email Caroline atsupport@grasshoppervape.com. Please note that any original parts that have been replaced need to be returned to us in order to receive future warranty service.
Thank you for the continued support.
-Hopper Labs Team
for the lazy
Hello Everyone,
April was super successful. The recent updates to everyone’s shipping estimates have been on target. Orders that were currently estimated to ship in April have all been sent address confirmation emails. We have even gotten a head start on orders that are currently estimated to ship in May. About 100 orders that are estimated to ship in May have already been sent! We are working very hard to stay on top of our shipping schedule and meet our current shipping estimates. We sincerely thank you all for hanging in there with us as we do so.
As some of you have requested to see footage of the new equipment, we have included a video of our pick & place machine. This machine can process 8500 components per-hour, pulling them from tape and placing them onto printed circuit boards. We’ve been running the machine 12 hours per-day to keep production rolling.
Many of you have been asking how you can view your shipping estimates. This is best accessed from your account on GHVape.com. We recommend using a computer to log in to your account and select your order status from the “Account” drop down menu. As always, if you have trouble with this, you can email us atsupport@grasshoppervape.com.
The new warranty system is online now. Anyone who needs warranty service will have to register their device on their GHVape.com account. Indiegogo backers have been automatically registered. For pre-orders that are registering their Grasshopper, you will need your Warranty ID Code from the back of your black Grasshopper box and the serial number from the top of your Grasshopper. All serial numbers start with GS or GT for either Stainless Steel or Titanium units. Again, if you have any trouble with this, email Caroline atsupport@grasshoppervape.com. Please note that any original parts that have been replaced need to be returned to us in order to receive future warranty service.
Thank you for the continued support.
-Hopper Labs Team
for the lazy
tubasco
Well-Known Member
Yes please!!
So ive been Using this mouthpiece for a while now, and ive got some pms since my original post. So ive been wondering if u guys want me to make them and sell them on ebay or something. If so ill send my gf to make a bunch :-). (can be made more pleasing to the eye as the guy who made them makes some amazing things).
Hey, I hope it proves useful for y'all. The Teflon is fairly hard btw - not soft or spongey at all - but it does have a very small amount of 'give' in it, and it mates with the Hopper mouthpiece pretty much perfectly.
O.k, so I don't want to wander too far off topic here, but I will say that the Sublimator is an entirely different beast when compared to the Hopper. In fact imo, they are pretty much incomparable, and I would personally never use one in place of the other.
However, from my experience, I think that the Sublimator can reach higher temperatures, and provide a further toasty level of extraction than is achievable in the Hopper, and at a faster rate. Now, it is possible, and I can personally kill a full Hopper bowl in one long, water filtered, full power hit. But imo, the Sub provides true, intended one hit extraction - even for those of you without the lung capacity of a small 4-man tent!
Keep the vapor pathway nice & clean, and I think that the flavor achievable from the Sub, especially dry, is as bigÑtasty as you might expect - snappin' all of those terps in one gratifying hit see's to that. However, the flavor can deteriorate rather quickly, so keeping the unit clean is essential.
Now, it may be slow on the uptake, but once up to temp, the Sublimator never fails to produce thick milk, almost as soon as you draw. It's a cloud chasers dream, imo.
Anyway, enough of this blasphemy! Let's get back on track with my beloved Holly Hopper - which thankfully fits right in my pocket and is not a potential fire risk, precariously balanced atop a piece of my cherished glass, in the middle of my coffee table . . . .
Right, I'm off to the next dimension.
Who's with me?!!
VapeLove!
MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
@VegNVape awesome post yet again !
Cheers for the responses, it is all interesting insight.
Overall it seems comparable to comparing the EQ to the GH, there's more than just the subtle differences in effect and experience, mostly brought on by the extra heat achievable and the greater size of material that can be placed inside the device.
I will still have to try the sublimator one day, but for the most part and the time being - not being burnt and still getting wasted is a-ok with me. Any day now too, I'll be able to pair the GH with the EQ and I think that will offer some ludicrous stereo cloud production!
I really dig your blue GH btw, those pics are spiking my excitement for mine
See you in the next dimension, I should perhaps utilise the supermarket in this one prior though
Cheers for the responses, it is all interesting insight.
Overall it seems comparable to comparing the EQ to the GH, there's more than just the subtle differences in effect and experience, mostly brought on by the extra heat achievable and the greater size of material that can be placed inside the device.
I will still have to try the sublimator one day, but for the most part and the time being - not being burnt and still getting wasted is a-ok with me. Any day now too, I'll be able to pair the GH with the EQ and I think that will offer some ludicrous stereo cloud production!
I really dig your blue GH btw, those pics are spiking my excitement for mine
See you in the next dimension, I should perhaps utilise the supermarket in this one prior though
U won me over with that Amsterdam pic..
Hey, I hope it proves useful for y'all. The Teflon is fairly hard btw - not soft or spongey at all - but it does have a very small amount of 'give' in it, and it mates with the Hopper mouthpiece pretty much perfectly.
O.k, so I don't want to wander too far off topic here, but I will say that the Sublimator is an entirely different beast when compared to the Hopper. In fact imo, they are pretty much incomparable, and I would personally never use one in place of the other.
However, from my experience, I think that the Sublimator can reach higher temperatures, and provide a further toasty level of extraction than is achievable in the Hopper, and at a faster rate. Now, it is possible, and I can personally kill a full Hopper bowl in one long, water filtered, full power hit. But imo, the Sub provides true, intended one hit extraction - even for those of you without the lung capacity of a small 4-man tent!
Keep the vapor pathway nice & clean, and I think that the flavor achievable from the Sub, especially dry, is as bigÑtasty as you might expect - snappin' all of those terps in one gratifying hit see's to that. However, the flavor can deteriorate rather quickly, so keeping the unit clean is essential.
Now, it may be slow on the uptake, but once up to temp, the Sublimator never fails to produce thick milk, almost as soon as you draw. It's a cloud chasers dream, imo.
Anyway, enough of this blasphemy! Let's get back on track with my beloved Holly Hopper - which thankfully fits right in my pocket and is not a potential fire risk, precariously balanced atop a piece of my cherished glass, in the middle of my coffee table . . . .
Ahhhh Amsterdam . . . .
Right, I'm off to the next dimension.
Who's with me?!!
VapeLove!
kingfisher
Well-Known Member
Hahaha what a shit comparison. Some critical points I picked up on or I feel are critical in my comparison of the two.
1. The video guy was running the gh at dead battery level. Started at probably 1/3. Two hits to reach blinking lights. I've noticed I get considerably less vapor production at this battery level. I can usually tell when the red lights are about to blink.
2. Watch closely gh gives more vapor in one hit than the ff2 did in 3.
3. I am surprised about the comments of the gh vapor being too hot. Finally tested it out and I had no issues. Even ripped it on setting 5. Yes the mp got warm, but I completed a hit by then. Waited 20 seconds and it had cooled. Maybe I have just learned from other vapes like the original iolite to aim the air around yo mouth so you dont get dry spots. Anyway this is a non factor to me. Ff has always been a portable session vape. I don't want a session vape. Tired of sitting for 20 min when all I want is a buzz.
4. How long does a ff2 battery last? How much do they cost? Since the ff2 needs to be ran approximately 3x longer than gh to get the same vapor out. I would need it to last at least 3x as long. I know the original had a short life.
5. The gh is so much more versitle. Want a session vape that pumps clouds and connects to water accessories? Done. Want a quick discrete one hitter? Done.
Lastly I will leave you with this mental picture. This weekend I had a bachelor party out at the bars. I usually don't enjoy bar events. My drug of choice is not available and the drinks are expensive. I was able to play darts, socialize, and rip my gh without anyone noticing anything was going on. Even more entertaining was when I blew the vapor into security guys face. Well it was accidental, he walked into it. Then I got to watch them run around looking for someone smoking. Haha. Try that with a ff2. BTW I am not in a friendly state.
1. The video guy was running the gh at dead battery level. Started at probably 1/3. Two hits to reach blinking lights. I've noticed I get considerably less vapor production at this battery level. I can usually tell when the red lights are about to blink.
2. Watch closely gh gives more vapor in one hit than the ff2 did in 3.
3. I am surprised about the comments of the gh vapor being too hot. Finally tested it out and I had no issues. Even ripped it on setting 5. Yes the mp got warm, but I completed a hit by then. Waited 20 seconds and it had cooled. Maybe I have just learned from other vapes like the original iolite to aim the air around yo mouth so you dont get dry spots. Anyway this is a non factor to me. Ff has always been a portable session vape. I don't want a session vape. Tired of sitting for 20 min when all I want is a buzz.
4. How long does a ff2 battery last? How much do they cost? Since the ff2 needs to be ran approximately 3x longer than gh to get the same vapor out. I would need it to last at least 3x as long. I know the original had a short life.
5. The gh is so much more versitle. Want a session vape that pumps clouds and connects to water accessories? Done. Want a quick discrete one hitter? Done.
Lastly I will leave you with this mental picture. This weekend I had a bachelor party out at the bars. I usually don't enjoy bar events. My drug of choice is not available and the drinks are expensive. I was able to play darts, socialize, and rip my gh without anyone noticing anything was going on. Even more entertaining was when I blew the vapor into security guys face. Well it was accidental, he walked into it. Then I got to watch them run around looking for someone smoking. Haha. Try that with a ff2. BTW I am not in a friendly state.
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slcbdco
Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
I'll take one
So ive been Using this mouthpiece for a while now, and ive got some pms since my original post. So ive been wondering if u guys want me to make them and sell them on ebay or something. If so ill send my gf to make a bunch :-). (can be made more pleasing to the eye as the guy who made them makes some amazing things).
I temp step usually, starting around 2.5 going up to 4
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MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
Bahaha what a koala "load the chamber with some of my Eucalyptus leaves"
I think you have made some good points there.
Overall, it wasn't terrible, but I would say he must be more sensitive to heat than others, so I won't make any cardigan jokes.
I will say, I can quite comfortably use my GH like he did, even more so without the silicone tip. Initially its smoother than a MFLB, and after say 4 drags it overtakes it, becoming hotter and thicker (feels like smoke, literally like toking a joint) but it takes some serious use to heat it up proper.
Just took a bunch of test drags, and yep - it's definitely warm but on a cold night, that's more than welcome.
That said, when comparing the vapour quality of the GH and Mighty, the cooler hit from the Mighty is a lot nicer, much more premium feeling - like it was made to drag directly. The GH definitely is a harsher way to inhale, but it's only vapour so it's pretty tolerable. And I have methods (waterpipes) to cool the bigger hits, which he mentions, and that is my intended use, so for me watching his review, it seems relevant that the GH is definitely the better device for me, and I have no interest in a FF2 or even a Mighty now I own a hopper. They are just too big and cumbersome for my usage, although I deem both of them to be better devices to use natively.
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I've been meaning to mention this for a while, but keep on forgetting. One of my biggest annoyances with the GH is when dialling down the temperature, it is really easy to accidentally unscrew the back-end.
I usually secure the back-end by placing my thumb on the right side of the clip when dialling down.
Overall a very minor downside, but it's very hard to change temps with one hand.
hi_there
Well-Known Member
The vapor from the GH is hot, through water this thing is crazy good at medicating. As far as using it in the raw (sans condom) you just need to figure out your own personal technique. I personally put my lips a little further down and open my mouth a bit to let in outside air, it makes for a cooler draw. No doubt you are sacrificing something to get this form factor, but I think it is worth it for the stealth on-the-go.
Vapetrees
Vaped Out
Ah, try pushing down on the dial as you turn it and it should make it easier.Bahaha what a koala "load the chamber with some of my Eucalyptus leaves"
I think you have made some good points there.
Overall, it wasn't terrible, but I would say he must be more sensitive to heat than others, so I won't make any cardigan jokes.
I will say, I can quite comfortably use my GH like he did, even more so without the silicone tip. Initially its smoother than a MFLB, and after say 4 drags it overtakes it, becoming hotter and thicker (feels like smoke, literally like toking a joint) but it takes some serious use to heat it up proper.
Just took a bunch of test drags, and yep - it's definitely warm but on a cold night, that's more than welcome.
That said, when comparing the vapour quality of the GH and Mighty, the cooler hit from the Mighty is a lot nicer, much more premium feeling - like it was made to drag directly. The GH definitely is a harsher way to inhale, but it's only vapour so it's pretty tolerable. And I have methods (waterpipes) to cool the bigger hits, which he mentions, and that is my intended use, so for me watching his review, it seems relevant that the GH is definitely the better device for me, and I have no interest in a FF2 or even a Mighty now I own a hopper. They are just too big and cumbersome for my usage, although I deem both of them to be better devices to use natively.
_______
I've been meaning to mention this for a while, but keep on forgetting. One of my biggest annoyances with the GH is when dialling down the temperature, it is really easy to accidentally unscrew the back-end.
I usually secure the back-end by placing my thumb on the right side of the clip when dialling down.
Overall a very minor downside, but it's very hard to change temps with one hand.
MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
Turning it slowly helps too but it still doesn't take much to twist it off.
Cheers for the tip
I'm with @hi_there if you have access to medicinal bud this thing will get you crazy medicated fast!
kingfisher
Well-Known Member
Mine shipped full charge
Vapetrees
Vaped Out
They do. I was told by Caroline in an email.
slcbdco
Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
I lost my mouthpiece months ago, I think there are people who are so heat sensitive that they would use the mouthpiece always or just not be into the grasshopper but in my experience of people having a Grasshoper and my own most people can use it without the mouthpiece no problem and over time they stop using it. I can't even find mine!
Vapetrees
Vaped Out
I never use mine either unless I am going through water with it. I really don't feel the need for it, and for the most part I have to wait a while between hits because it's so potent. I have to take some time in between hits for that reason.
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Mr Mellish
Well-Known Member
It does seem like they're getting their shit together but I'm not sure a chip shooter is the best indicator. Was there any indication that the PCB's were a reliability issue (I can't remember). I thought this was more to deal with potential supply issues. To me, this is a bit of a red herring, since it doesn't show how they're addressing known issues.
hi_there
Well-Known Member
My personal guesstimation is that they ran into early reliability issues with some part of their design and they burned a lot of money and time trying to straighten that out. They did not want to invest the money in any big runs of parts until they could figure out the reliability issues. Then they had to keep pre-orders coming in to fund the project. But now they are close to a release model but we still hear about a lot of returns (many multiple), that must also burn a ton of cash. I just hope this newest run of units is good quality.
vapviking
Old & In the Way
I was only thinking it's an impressive step toward addressing the supply issue. I believe it shows a higher degree of confidence in overall design as well, that they're willing to ramp up the assembly speed. Or are they just putting boxes full of PCB's on the shelf?
@hi_there I don't believe money has been much of an issue to date, since the ball got seriously rolling. Beyond Indiegogo and preorders we have absolutely no idea what financiers are either at the ready or already invested in this company. Just sayin'. There's a lot of $ hovering around CO and this whole industry. My opinion is that the startup $ and pre-orders have been enough to sustain the growth and that they have not needed to go to the well yet.
This pick-n-place may not seem like a big deal to you, but it's important to remember these robots are not only working faster, they're working under tighter tollerances than a human is capable of. Each chip is perfectly installed on the board, in the correct position every time.
A human is much more prone to faults when performing this sort of manual labor with a miniature chip like the one in the hopper (remember each round chip is around 12mm in diameter).
Clearly this part of the build was extremely time consuming. Hence the investment in the machinery necessary to decrease production times and increase quality.
What I find interesting is that Hopper Labs has chosen to assemble these chips in-house. I'm sure these could have been mass produced in china at a lower per-unit cost. There must be some reason why they're doing it themselves - I'm guessing it's either for quality control reasons, or because that's a critical component of their device and they're protecting their intellectual property.