The Magic-Flight Box

Hey guys I was just wondering, do any of you use a whip attachment for the MLFB? I usually just use it with no mouthpiece for optimal temperature control, but I was thinking of getting a whip and putting my box in one of those arm band things you use to wear an Ipod when you lift or go running, and then feeding the tube up out of my sleeve for super easy stealthy vaping (I like to vape when I walking around in public buildings, I don't really know why). Anyone tried a setup like this? Also sorry for the world's longest run-on sentence, its 3 in the morning and I'm pretty cooked

Greetings to all

I am really feeling this MFLB. It seems like the best all round portable device. I was wondering if anyone thinks that it could be my stand alone only vaporizer. I bought a DBV about 3 or 4 months ago and I am extremely happy with it. I am a very regular user...very very regular. I want to give my DBV to my mom and get a MFLB for myself but I'm not sure if it can put up with my usage. I live in South East Asia at the moment so mailing things are timely and cost a lot. I do not want to be unable to vaporize while I wait for something to get fixed. If I want to have a portable device but also vape on the regular do I need to have both the DBV and the MFLB or will the MFLB take care of my daily needs?

Also, how long do batteries last before they are for real deal dead. If I plan on being over here for 2 more years how many batteries will I go through. If I do get it I will get the maha c9000 and either the MAHA IMEDION 2400 or the Sanyo eneloop 2700mAh.

Thanks in advance. I have really enjoyed reading all the helpful information provided by everyone.

1nvnx3 said:

Hello, I'm currently considering buying a MFLB. Do the new models come in a metal case or a velvet bag?
Also, i have been thinking about buying it from vaporizers.ca but when I asked them about the light that indicates that the battery has made contact they replied that it usually disconnects but that it does not affect the vaporizing process. How does your warranty covers this issue? Do you cover it at all?

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I've bought from vaporizers.ca a few times and I usually recommend them to fellow Canadians. I'm not sure if I'm understanding this correctly: "...when I asked them about the light that indicates that the battery has made contact they replied that it usually disconnects..." If this is supposed to mean that the light usually fails, that is not correct. It is true that the light does not matter to the vaporizing process, but it rarely fails. In the 228 or so pages in this thread, there have only been two or three reports of lights not working. magicflight has said that a failed light is a cosmetic issue. Someone else said this meant it wasn't covered by warranty, but I can't find a post where magicflight himself said it wouldn't be covered. I'm sure he will drop by and clarify.

medicineman420 said:

I want to give my DBV to my mom and get a MFLB for myself but I'm not sure if it can put up with my usage.

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As long as you are careful with the screen, the LB is about as durable as it gets. I've accidentally left a battery in contact for four or five minutes and blackened a load, but didn't get combustion, just a nasty charcoal taste for a couple of loads. I suppose you could break the cover off if you got careless, or the light could fail (see above) but otherwise I can't see what could go wrong even if you used it constantly day and night.

As for whether it can be your only vaporizer, I see no reason why not. If I hadn't gotten an Extreme first, I'd be perfectly happy with just the LB.

medicineman420 said:

lso, how long do batteries last before they are for real deal dead. If I plan on being over here for 2 more years how many batteries will I go through. If I do get it I will get the maha c9000 and either the MAHA IMEDION 2400 or the Sanyo eneloop 2700mAh.

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This depends on how much you use them and more importantly, how careful you are when you recharge them. Nobody can tell you how many batteries you will go through but you will get maximum usage with the Maha C9000 and Imedions. A rule of thumb is 500 charging cycles for an NiMH LSD battery, and if you assume one trench per charge, 5 trenches a day, you'd be killing about 3.5 batteries a year. I doubt you'll be using it that heavily, that'd be insane.

vape2win said:

Hey guys I was just wondering, do any of you use a whip attachment for the MLFB? I usually just use it with no mouthpiece for optimal temperature control, but I was thinking of getting a whip and putting my box in one of those arm band things you use to wear an Ipod when you lift or go running, and then feeding the tube up out of my sleeve for super easy stealthy vaping (I like to vape when I walking around in public buildings, I don't really know why). Anyone tried a setup like this? Also sorry for the world's longest run-on sentence, its 3 in the morning and I'm pretty cooked

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That would not work. The MFLB needs to be kept level when hitting it. Otherwise herb leaves the trench.

pakalolo said:

According to my reading, full discharge of NiMH batteries does no harm unless the battery is connected in series with a battery that hasn't full discharged. In fact smart chargers sometimes fully discharge a battery before charging.

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Thanks Pakalolo.

The charger that ships with the mflb does not drain, only trickle charge.

chucku said:

vape2win said:

Hey guys I was just wondering, do any of you use a whip attachment for the MLFB? I usually just use it with no mouthpiece for optimal temperature control, but I was thinking of getting a whip and putting my box in one of those arm band things you use to wear an Ipod when you lift or go running, and then feeding the tube up out of my sleeve for super easy stealthy vaping (I like to vape when I walking around in public buildings, I don't really know why). Anyone tried a setup like this? Also sorry for the world's longest run-on sentence, its 3 in the morning and I'm pretty cooked

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That would not work. The MFLB needs to be kept level when hitting it. Otherwise herb leaves the trench.

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Someone in the beginning of this tread showed how to put LB in a soda cup.

@ pakalolo: Thank you very much. I am a pretty careful guy so from the sounds of it I am going to be perfectly satisfied with my LB! I am so stoked to get this now! Time to whip out the Magic Plastic Card and get this show on the road!

You are a great group of people. Thank you all again for all your time a effort.

Peace Love and Happiness to you all

Hello all, I was just wondering, has anyone ever traveled with their LB? Air travel that is.

Of course I'm not trying to take it on the plane in my carry on or on my person, but if I packed it in my checked baggage (after it's already been used) do you think I could run into any legal problems?

medicineman420 said:

Hello all, I was just wondering, has anyone ever traveled with their LB? Air travel that is.

Of course I'm not trying to take it on the plane in my carry on or on my person, but if I packed it in my checked baggage (after it's already been used) do you think I could run into any legal problems?

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You know, there was someone who said they brought their LB onto a plane and even used it on a flight.

I think if you clean it really well. You may be fine bringing it in your checked baggage. Obviously there is always that small (or large) risk that you're taking when you bring paraphenilia onto a flight.

george said:

You know, there was someone who said they brought their LB onto a plane and even used it on a flight.

I think if you clean it really well. You may be fine bringing it in your checked baggage. Obviously there is always that small (or large) risk that you're taking when you bring paraphenilia onto a flight.

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Wow getting high at 30,000ft. Now that is about as high as you can get I have balls but not that big! LOL
No thanks, I make space granola for my commutes. No one is the wiser. I just munch away with a big smile slapped across my chevy chase.

Cleaning it really good sounds like it would do the trick. Just wondering if I will be able to bring it back home with me once I move back to the US.

Thanks again

medicineman420 said:

george said:

You know, there was someone who said they brought their LB onto a plane and even used it on a flight.

I think if you clean it really well. You may be fine bringing it in your checked baggage. Obviously there is always that small (or large) risk that you're taking when you bring paraphenilia onto a flight.

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Wow getting high at 30,000ft. Now that is about as high as you can get I have balls but not that big! LOL
No thanks, I make space granola for my commutes. No one is the wiser. I just munch away with a big smile slapped across my chevy chase.

Cleaning it really good sounds like it would do the trick. Just wondering if I will be able to bring it back home with me once I move back to the US.

Thanks again

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Np. You could mail it back too! Much more safe i would assume.

george said:

Np. You could mail it back too! Much more safe i would assume.

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Now we're talkin!

Clean it, then mail it back with all my other stuff that I will have to ship as well. It will just blend in with everything else.

Good call

The best reason to not consider the mflb as your one and only vape is its batteries. If you are at all a moderate-to-heavy user, you will become quickly annoyed juggling batteries, putting them in the charger, taking them out, etc.. I think a lighter based vape is a better option as a one and only, personally, unless stealth is a huge priority. Stealth is where the MFLB really excels.

I'm using my SGT giant sherlock with the glass vapo bowl and a torch. I honestly think I get superior hits and enjoy an all glass experience, with little to no butane flavor. This set up cost like 60 bucks w/ torch, and the vapobowl can be put on any 18 gog bong. Vapobowl is very efficient convection versus the conduction of the mflb with IR characteristics.

There is a certain joy in using a tiny wooden box and exhaling big clouds, just as there is in using a chunky G on G piece - they complement each other.

hi all. been using the lb for the past 9 months and agree that it is an outstanding device. i live with my gf and her parents and have been able to vape everyday without any1 finding out.
my method is simple and probally covered before..
1. grind load fine
2. put battery in..wait 5 secs
3.slowly draw for 5 secs and then gently increase the draw rate for another 10secs
4.draw very fast for another 10 secs
5crumble load and repeat.

with this method iv been getting very tasty and hick rips. mus be careful not to combust tho!!

thinking of getting a vaporstar with a bong now tho.. saw few clips on youtube and the rips look sick!!
tks:

sorry.. watch the last min of this clip..looks amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--PQLRmUJBo

You know it's curious, I've never come even remotely close to think I was gonna combust. Guess my box runs kind of cool.

Nice video, but it's fucking crazy what some people will call music. Notice he has his vaporstar jammed in a 18.8mm joint and it's working just fine.

charliedontsurf said:

If you are at all a moderate-to-heavy user, you will become quickly annoyed juggling batteries, putting them in the charger, taking them out, etc.

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I wonder what you consider a moderate-to-heavy user. I have had days, sometimes several in a row, where I have started right after I got up and hit one last time before turning out the light. I have never used up more than two batteries in a day. Let's double that for sake of argument. We're still at only four batteries. If you have a four battery charger, the only juggling necessary is putting four batteries on to charge overnight. That's the same juggling needed for one, two, or three batteries.

Granted, it's a lot of juggling if you charge them up one at a time as soon as they discharge. I'm not sure why you would do that.

charliedontsurf said:

You know, there was someone who said they brought their LB onto a plane and even used it on a flight.

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That was me, and I took a fair amount of grief after I posted that. To clarify, I do not recommend anyone try this, but if you intend to do it anyway then the description of what I did is here:

http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?pid=82129#p82129

charliedontsurf said:

You know it's curious, I've never come even remotely close to think I was gonna combust. Guess my box runs kind of cool.

Nice video, but it's fucking crazy what some people will call music. Notice he has his vaporstar jammed in a 18.8mm joint and it's working just fine.

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ya i start it cool and get a few nice hits. crumble it up etc... after 4 hits ill increase the temp with breath control and continue doing so for another 6hits..

i think the vaporstar with a nice bong would go great with the mflb..good combo for me.
was gonna hook the lb up to a bong but saw a vid on it and it looked a lot like smoke
i agree that the music is a bit too much!

Check out the hdvape if you like all glass.

There is another vape that works amazing with glass just give me a sec.

Check this out it is sick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JBVWjujf4M


I am sorry. This post is just OT. Well..

MichMartin said:

Check out the hdvape if you like all glass.

There is another vape that works amazing with glass just give me a sec.

Check this out it is sick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JBVWjujf4M


I am sorry. This post is just OT. Well..

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The HDvape has gotten alot of fire on this forum, both for inferior customer service on the Etsy artists' part and also in the hdvape not working great. Fulldome has a far better design but he's DISAPPEARED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH to all our constant fury. Some forum members got his filter before he traveled to India or whatever and like it. It's probably cheaper than the HD vape too, 65 seems steep.

To pakalalo, I guess I'm in the super-duper heavy user then. I always start trenches with fresh batteries, and usually go through at least 3 a day, and that's only because of my other pieces. If the MFLB was my only one, I'd need like 7-10 batteries.

I can still count to ten fowards AND backwards, though.

Howdy Y'all,

Just thought I'd say that I love the MFLB and have been using it for about a month now.

So the only vaporizer that I've used is the Volcano Classic, of which I've had for about 4 years (right before the Volcano Digit was released w/ the Easy Valve system). I got the Volcano at a time when there wasn't much competition and was definitively "the Cadillac" vaporizer. I'm not sure I would jump to buy a $530 USD vaporizer today, however....not that I feel like I got robbed or anything (the Classic is an attractive minimalist sci-fi-looking device). I've definitely gotten my money's worth from it...

The one big thing I didn't like about it was that it is not at all portable, so during the summer I did a simple web search for portable vapes and found this one. (I was also interested in moving from the bag system to maybe a whip box or something, just to try it out.) You can't really go to the beach with a Volcano unless you blow a bag up and rush to the beach....which I have done LOL.

Anyways, I'm not gonna do a review or anything since I would just repeat what everyone else says.... E.g., takes some finesse to use (some learning curve); you should consider the Maha c9000 WizardOne charger for max performance esp. if you want to use it as your main device; you should use the box natively as it was originally designed to be used that way (???) and, again, for optimal performance; it's not a party/many-user vape, just 1-2 people; it's very ninjutsu, etc., etc., etc., etc.

I know the economy is tough and all, but I found it funny when I saw an Instructables.com "how to make a launch box" page...the lifetime warranty balances out the cost IMO because most of us aren't very good at woodwork (I've been afraid of woodcutting machine since Jr. High).

I also like the small touches like the words on the bottom and the logo on the top of the box.

One question to you guys: Does the MFLB need to be cleaned out regularly? Does the resin that builds up on the "shoulder bars" affect the performance negatively? The reason I ask is that I tend to maintain it well by using the included brush after every trench and it's been keeping up a lot better than I thought the wood would be (since wood is pourous)....

Just wondering if anybody noticed a light bulb change on the newer boxes? My older MFLB has a super tiny bulb that was very bright. My replacement that arrived has a bigger bulb that is very dim. If you shine a light in the end where the stem goes you can see the bulb pretty good. It's def a different type bulb and I was just wondering if anybody else has notice it is not as bright as the old type bulb or if mine just doesn't have a good connection......... It's not a huge deal but I really liked the brighter light because I could see more of what was going on inside the box.

jordon23 said:

Just wondering if anybody noticed a light bulb change on the newer boxes? My older MFLB has a super tiny bulb that was very bright. My replacement that arrived has a bigger bulb that is very dim. If you shine a light in the end where the stem goes you can see the bulb pretty good. It's def a different type bulb and I was just wondering if anybody else has notice it is not as bright as the old type bulb or if mine just doesn't have a good connection......... It's not a huge deal but I really liked the brighter light because I could see more of what was going on inside the box.

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I would def miss my light if it went out, and I wish it were brighter - I have a newer style box so it's no surprise.

Those homemade magic flight launch boxes range from hilarious to admirable looking, you have to appreciate people's innovation.

GreatVapeApe said:

One question to you guys: Does the MFLB need to be cleaned out regularly? Does the resin that builds up on the "shoulder bars" affect the performance negatively? The reason I ask is that I tend to maintain it well by using the included brush after every trench and it's been keeping up a lot better than I thought the wood would be (since wood is pourous)....

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Yes it does, on my first box I let "hash" build up on the rods and screen and it ran really cool. Now I take ISO on a qtip and ever so gently wipe down the rods and screen, and then insert a battery for 4 sec with the cover open to evap the ISO. I do this every 2 days.

sundaddy said:

GreatVapeApe said:

One question to you guys: Does the MFLB need to be cleaned out regularly? Does the resin that builds up on the "shoulder bars" affect the performance negatively? The reason I ask is that I tend to maintain it well by using the included brush after every trench and it's been keeping up a lot better than I thought the wood would be (since wood is pourous)....

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Yes it does, on my first box I let "hash" build up on the rods and screen and it ran really cool. Now I take ISO on a qtip and ever so gently wipe down the rods and screen, and then insert a battery for 4 sec with the cover open to evap the ISO. I do this every 2 days.

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Since the shoulders are where the screen makes contact with the rods delivering the current, it makes sense to me that a build-up on the shoulders might affect performance. I only let it build up once and I cleaned it as you describe. I hadn't noticed any performance degradation but I didn't look for it either, and I got rid of the build-up as soon as I noticed it so maybe it hadn't gotten that bad yet.

I'm guessing you usually fill your trench all the way up to the shoulders. I don't usually do that anymore. After I cleaned the shoulders, I started to pay close attention to them when I brush out after each load. (Actually I usually dump the load to finger-crumble after a few hits and I always brush out then too.) Since then I've not seen any sign that the build-up is returning.

There is an accumulation of honey under the screen on the bottom of the heating chamber. I can't see how it would ever build up enough to have any effect, and it is almost impossible to clean out, not to mention that doing so would be hazardous to your screen. If you're daring you can scrape around in there through the draw hole but one slip and it's warranty time. (Yes, user stupidity like that is covered.) I see no reason to mess with that build-up but it is more or less permanent evidence of what the LB is used for, if that concerns you. I suppose you could clean it with a thorough soak in ISO, but I can't imagine that being good for the LB. Based on my experience of accidentally letting a couple of drops seep through the screen, it would make the Box taste really nasty, perhaps permanently.

Anyway, the bottom line is that the LB is easily the easiest THC device to keep clean that I've ever used.

I do the same, I no longer let anything touch the rods ever. Of course you've seen my video, so you know I can roll the herbs after each hit without getting it everywhere, but yes, no contact with rods=good.