The Lotus Vaporizer

hoyo77

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1977 on the NORTH SHORE of OAHU!
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This Torch Lighter is the best I have ever used!

I know it's a bold statement however for $7 including shipment?

The LOTUS is super easy with this Lighter!
My lighter are for lighting joints not vapes!
Garbage can for them!

I just broke up my flowers with my fingers and load!
I wish I had one of these back in the day!
Who makes that torch??
 
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SSVUN~YAH

You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
Who makes that torch??
http://www.dhgate.com/product/aomai-dual-flame-brazing-soldering-adjustable/169527412.html#s1-3-1|1173662570

I posted this awhile ago, but @jambandphan03 found it on eBay cheaper and quicker shipping. Hope this helps...

I concur the right torch makes all the difference in the world. This is my favorite and it is not even close. Great flame adjuster, quite click, small (fits great in hidden jean pocket), Xikar, great taste, classy, etc. only complaints would be small reservoir (got tane on me if going to party, etc.) and no window.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F0O8MVU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3MXI70Y36D1PG
 
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hoyo77

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http://www.dhgate.com/product/aomai-dual-flame-brazing-soldering-adjustable/169527412.html#s1-3-1|1173662570

I posted this awhile ago, but @jambandphan03 found it on eBay cheaper and quicker shipping. Hope this helps...

I concur the right torch makes all the difference in the world. This is my favorite and it is not even close. Great flame adjuster, quite click, small (fits great in hidden jean pocket), Xikar, great taste, classy, etc. only complaints would be small reservoir (got tane on me if going to party, etc.) and no window.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F0O8MVU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3MXI70Y36D1PG
Yeah the right torch makes the difference. The sleek torch that comes with it is good, just the damn tank is too small. That pistol looking torch is nice but i think dual flame is overkill on a lotus. but i may get one anyways.
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
luckily that "pistol dual" can be switched to a single flame too. :D

also I'd like to add that I've been experimenting with the dual flame, and honestly think it works better with a single, because of the way it heats from the center. One slightly larger flame seems to work better than the double IMO.
 
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Baked55

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I have tried the flame on every setting including turned all the way up which was way to high but still nothing. Have also tried going from hardly drawing on it at all to as hard as I can but makes no difference. I don't think the issue is my technique as i have tried every different variable and still nothing not even changing the colour of the herb at all. Also even holding the flame on the hot plate for 2 min turned all the way up I'm not getting the glow at all even in a dark room. (I have the newest version, not sure if that one has the glow). I agree that it seems so simple that I'm not even sure what would be malfunctioning. I will try to post up some pics when I get home. Maybe even a video of attempting to use it.
 
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stickstones

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I have tried the flame on every setting including turned all the way up which was way to high but still nothing. Have also tried going from hardly drawing on it at all to as hard as I can but makes no difference. I don't think the issue is my technique as i have tried every different variable and still nothing not even changing the colour of the herb at all. Also even holding the flame on the hot plate for 2 min turned all the way up I'm not getting the glow at all even in a dark room. (I have the newest version, not sure if that one has the glow). I agree that it seems so simple that I'm not even sure what would be malfunctioning. I will try to post up some pics when I get home. Maybe even a video of attempting to use it.

What other vapes have you used/owned?
 
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natural farmer

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I have tried the flame on every setting including turned all the way up which was way to high but still nothing. Have also tried going from hardly drawing on it at all to as hard as I can but makes no difference. I don't think the issue is my technique as i have tried every different variable and still nothing not even changing the colour of the herb at all. Also even holding the flame on the hot plate for 2 min turned all the way up I'm not getting the glow at all even in a dark room. (I have the newest version, not sure if that one has the glow). I agree that it seems so simple that I'm not even sure what would be malfunctioning. I will try to post up some pics when I get home. Maybe even a video of attempting to use it.

I'd like to see a pic of that flame… :rolleyes: The only thing I can think of is that your lighter doesn't go very high… It's the only way not to get a glow imho…
 
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jojo0420

Cloud Chaser
A video would help tremendously.
There is something wrong if you can't get a red spot after 2 minutes.
Only takes 5-6 seconds, tops, for me with the included Honest torch. Probably less.
I have the newest Lotus, got it a couple weeks ago direct from MT, and it gets a red spot.
 
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PxN13

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Hi, I'm newto the forum and reading all these reviews just convinced me to bite the bullet and get the wpa kit and I kind of want to get a nice wood/glass sherlock pipe for it. Anyone know where to get one that would be good with the lotus?
Oh and my only other vape is the flight box so this is going to be a new experience...any tips?
 
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Bvapst

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Definitely seems like a problem with the torch ! I would try to fix it or buy a new one. Check videos of peoples using Lotus, the flame is steady while yours act more like a regular lighter. On the pics we can't see the bright inner part of the flame and the wider&lighter around it. It seems like your torch is much much too wide without a strong inner flame. Normally flame should be finer and more bright. Also it shouldn't be "bent" at the end but simply straight no matter in which direction it goes. Check videos and you'll see the difference ! Hope it help..
 

Baked55

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I agree the lighter isn't the best, i have another one on the way should be here any day. But not so sure thats the problem, it still gets plenty hot but the herb stays green. Contacted Mendocino and they think it may be one of the plates under the hot plate might have shifted out of place. They are sending me a wrench to take the top off and take a look.

Edit:The pictures with the huge unstable flames were just to show that the lighter was able to be turned up enough. Only tried that when the correct height didnt work.
 
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walrus

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As mentioned above, the flame on your lighter doesn't look right. Could just be bad pics but I think it's pretty likely that your lighter isn't functioning right. It should have a sharp, pointed inner flame surrounded by a translucent outer flame. Like this:
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I'd suggest purging and refilling the lighter, like this:

Sounds like you need to bleed the lighter before refiling it...

here's a helpful vid:

If that doesn't work I'd start looking for a new lighter. Good luck.
 

Baked55

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Just like to mention most of those were turned up to full. The lighter isnt great but a little better then in those pics. And new lighter on the way hopefully it helps.
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luckily that "pistol dual" can be switched to a single flame too. :D

also I'd like to add that I've been experimenting with the dual flame, and honestly think it works better with a single, because of the way it heats from the center. One slightly larger flame seems to work better than the double IMO.
I have come to this realization as well and have since bought a nice single flame lighter. Plus it lights up more consistently(I sent my dual flame one back to vector to get fixed).
 
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jambandphan03

in flavor country
Just like to mention most of those were turned up to full. The lighter isnt great but a little better then in those pics. And new lighter on the way hopefully it helps.
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that still looks like a "soft" flame to me. You need the blue flame that looks like a very narrow point. It could be that the lighter you have just doesn't get hot enough. I really think that is the trouble here.
 

Meghan

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Just like to mention most of those were turned up to full. The lighter isnt great but a little better then in those pics. And new lighter on the way hopefully it helps.
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My lighter ended up in a similar state as this one after I used some crappy butane for a while (I didn't have any vector). I ended up having to bleed it completely and refill with high quality butane. My "sharp" flame returned.

Completely agree that this flame doesn't look right. Here's mine:
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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Not saying this is analogous to your situation @Baked55, but...

A friend of mine bought a Lotus per my suggestion (after I showed her several different vapes). After she had it for a while (and after I'd heard about some mild success, but had to suggest cleaning the screen as a way to improve airflow when trouble was reported), she admitted to me that she was having all kinds of problems. She wasn't getting enough heat. The herb wasn't browning. No vapor. No real effects. She'd contacted MT, and was afraid there was something wrong with her hot plate. She asked me to meet up and take a look, and try to help.

We met up. I brought my Honest torch, just in case, but luckily she brought hers as well. I engaged her lighter. We were in her car, in the sun, but I was pretty sure I should've seen more flame. I had to cup my hand around it to see it. She had a low, low flame. I immediately turned the dial and cranked that sucker up. She told me that she was trying to follow the official instructions of a "half-inch flame". I told her no. Ignore that. I jacked the flame up to an inch or so and told her this would make things much, much easier for her. There is no reason to use a half-inch flame and I think that indication probably leads many people to frustration. I told her that I always use a bigger flame...you just have to make sure you start moving the torch as soon as you see a red spot (to which she said, "The plate doesn't turn red!") to prevent combustion.

Anyway, I loaded a fresh bowl (and advised her to only use 3/4 of a bowl, tops...for my test here I used not even half a bowl...and not to tamp it down at all) and applied her newly strengthened flame to the hot plate. Inhaled about 6-8 seconds. Exhaled a GIANT cloud of vapor into her backseat. Her jaw literally dropped. She said she'd never seen vapor like that come out of it before. I had her do a hit with the adjusted lighter and she went into a coughing fit, not having expected the difference.

Like I said, I'm not saying that this is your situation, Baked55. But for the benefit of others who are having trouble with their Lotus, I am going to say that this is a really simple device and I can't imagine there are many ways in which it genuinely malfunctions. There have been more than a few Lotus users who have struggled with technique initially (I'm looking at you, @ataxian) only to realize later that the vape wasn't the problem.

Whether this is a true defective unit or a matter of needing a better torch/flame or adjustment of draw/technique, I hope you're able work it out soon. I'm eager for you to experience the glory of the Lotus! I wish I could watch your technique...or better yet, give your Lotus a try...I can't imagine how in the world you could hold a flame (while drawing?!?) to the center of the plate for two minutes without achieving any heating of the herb...not with a decent-sized flame, at least!
I really don't want to throw anybody under the bus! However OMG! This little no brainer device work's amazing with my D020. OK it's a cheap low income improt. However pair with a LOTUS?
Funny how this Torch lighter changed the game!
I set for 3/4 of an inch and I get lung busting medical rips. You better be sitting down with this guy! I have been using it so much since I finally got it wired. F'N Lighter! I don't think it was the new lighter! It was set at 3/4" from the start. I bet by other lighters are just poorly adjusted?

I have a very different view point now!
 
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