Gray Area
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Oh good... lol
Discontinued Pinnacle Pro
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Ratm22
Cloud Transcender
Fuck.. this is a nightmare.
Grim Chiclets
Well-Known Member
Indeed, nor should you use the thin-walled dark ones though either, they're made of Polycarbonate (PC) just like the clear ones, instead of the newer Polyethersulfone (PES) ones
sadly, what i got stuck with for now
llamaman001
Well-Known Member
If I still had my pinnacle pro I think I would personally shelf it until we get an official response from the vapor blunt team about all this. They have told us the plastic was safe to use but all the research reports that people are finding are not holding up to pinnacle claims. Unfortunately the company has been busy with the baker and Im sure they are putting all their time and effort into getting that unit working properly and out the door FIRST, before the Pong fix comes. All this is just a theory, but with the lack of responses from vaporblunt about all these accusations and no word in the baker thread Id assume they are just a little too busy with business to deal the FC crew. Hopefully we will hear something in the next few days though, I am definitely interested in what they have to say.
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SirDarkened
Active Member
I feel like a lot of companies do this. Da Vinci has been the same way about a spacer that allows for smaller loads.
TreeHouseT
New Member
Got my new PNP a few days ago, bought it from yoyokid1 on ebay for 220$.. while the massdrop was going on.. (stupid of me, a friend of mine got it there for 165$ with shipping) and the ebay seller doesn't want to pay me the difference even though he claims lowest price on the web. Sent him an email a day after the massdrop ended, and he answers me with "I don't see it on that massdrop-thing site" as if he doesn't understand the concept, which seems weird to me for an ebay reseller.
Apart from that experience, I like the vaporizer. It hits better than my mflb, and without effort. My friends can easily use it and get a good hit. Not so easy with an mflb! It got some positive comments from my joint smoking stoner buddies too. The taste is not always amazing though. A friend who never used a vape before noted that it doesn't produce a very distinct weed taste. I passed it around on setting 2, and it was immediately noted that a glass mouthpiece might taste better, and I fully agree. I made a little bottle bong to try it on higher heat settings, and those water filtered hits are really great! It's like a combustion bong rip-light version! I got 3 friends reporting a buzz from one shared bullet (used a scale and a packed bullet came out on 0.15g) ! I really want to get rid of the PonG though, every time I use it upside down on heat setting 3 or more I'm so paranoid of it melting that I check it too much. Gets annoying quickly. I would also die inside if one of my friends pulled a lungfull of plastic vapor from using my device. The heating element is capable of delivering some long, strong pulls full of vapor though. Almost like a mini portable volcano. This thing is powerfull. I can't wait until I have enough money to order the water tool. Combined with a GonG I think the watertool can transform my whole experience I had with this device up to this point.
Do you guys know what the easiest/cheapest method of making a glass GonG is? I'm a student and I live in Europe, so I'm looking for a solution that isn't too expensive since I'm already stripped of a lot of my hard earned money by the ebay kiddo.
Apart from that experience, I like the vaporizer. It hits better than my mflb, and without effort. My friends can easily use it and get a good hit. Not so easy with an mflb! It got some positive comments from my joint smoking stoner buddies too. The taste is not always amazing though. A friend who never used a vape before noted that it doesn't produce a very distinct weed taste. I passed it around on setting 2, and it was immediately noted that a glass mouthpiece might taste better, and I fully agree. I made a little bottle bong to try it on higher heat settings, and those water filtered hits are really great! It's like a combustion bong rip-light version! I got 3 friends reporting a buzz from one shared bullet (used a scale and a packed bullet came out on 0.15g) ! I really want to get rid of the PonG though, every time I use it upside down on heat setting 3 or more I'm so paranoid of it melting that I check it too much. Gets annoying quickly. I would also die inside if one of my friends pulled a lungfull of plastic vapor from using my device. The heating element is capable of delivering some long, strong pulls full of vapor though. Almost like a mini portable volcano. This thing is powerfull. I can't wait until I have enough money to order the water tool. Combined with a GonG I think the watertool can transform my whole experience I had with this device up to this point.
Do you guys know what the easiest/cheapest method of making a glass GonG is? I'm a student and I live in Europe, so I'm looking for a solution that isn't too expensive since I'm already stripped of a lot of my hard earned money by the ebay kiddo.
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
I think it is pretty indisputable by now that we have a PonG problem!
Ratm22
Cloud Transcender
Welcome to FC TreehouseT!
If you look back a few pages some other members have good pics of the custom pongs they made and there is even a link to purchase some of the glass they used.
TreeHouseT
New Member
I found these solutions, but I'm not entirely sure which one is the best/easiest to make.
1) https://www.ioffer.com/i/ogb-14mm-vaporizer-whip-adapter-made-in-oregon-usa-13-143480789
This piece (ask for 1.5 cm stem length after the 'bubble part') inserted in the pong gives this;
I think the glass touches the inner side of the bullet lip with this stem. And he keeps the bud inside with a screen on the bullet. This seems like a great solution, but I don't know if it's very sturdy. I want to use my pnp upside down on a bong, so it should sit very stable on it's glass mouthpiece.
2) http://www.vaposhop.nl/vaporizer_accessoires/vaporizer-parts/ascent-glass-inner-mouthpiece/
This also looks like the glass would touch the bullet top. Kinda the same principle, but then I would still be using the plastic 14.5mm adapter to let it sit on the bong. It might be a better and more stable solution. With still an all glass path. It is much cheaper for me to get those DV ascent parts since I'm close to the netherlands. But it looks like it doesn't come with a screen on that NL webshop. Is it easy to cut one myself that would stay in fit? I don't see how it wouldn't just shoot up.
3) Another recommendation I read was this one; contact OGB glassblower and ask for a 14.5mm GonG to 12mm (Diameter) by 12mm (length) stem.
I was asking myself if that is this piece below because it looks awesome;
And what the different dimensions of the stem into the PNP mean. Is there anyone that has a glass adapter that fits snug in the black pnp casing top? And that rests on the white isolating material and doesn't touch the bullet? That seems like the ideal scenario to me. Snug fit with the inside walls of the pnp, resting on the white O-ring and not touching the bullet for maximum airflow (because of the wider diameter in comparison to solution 1 and 2). And that combined with a screen in the glass above the bullet.
Am I missing some better methods? And which one do you guys think is best of all these?
Little side question; the white bottom below the screen of the bullet in the pnp is getting a bit clogged with very fine brown avb particles. It looks like something you don't want clogged up because I think the heated convection air is sucked through that porous material? I tried to get out with a brush, but that doesn't seem to get the finer parts out.
1) https://www.ioffer.com/i/ogb-14mm-vaporizer-whip-adapter-made-in-oregon-usa-13-143480789
This piece (ask for 1.5 cm stem length after the 'bubble part') inserted in the pong gives this;
I think the glass touches the inner side of the bullet lip with this stem. And he keeps the bud inside with a screen on the bullet. This seems like a great solution, but I don't know if it's very sturdy. I want to use my pnp upside down on a bong, so it should sit very stable on it's glass mouthpiece.
2) http://www.vaposhop.nl/vaporizer_accessoires/vaporizer-parts/ascent-glass-inner-mouthpiece/
This also looks like the glass would touch the bullet top. Kinda the same principle, but then I would still be using the plastic 14.5mm adapter to let it sit on the bong. It might be a better and more stable solution. With still an all glass path. It is much cheaper for me to get those DV ascent parts since I'm close to the netherlands. But it looks like it doesn't come with a screen on that NL webshop. Is it easy to cut one myself that would stay in fit? I don't see how it wouldn't just shoot up.
3) Another recommendation I read was this one; contact OGB glassblower and ask for a 14.5mm GonG to 12mm (Diameter) by 12mm (length) stem.
I was asking myself if that is this piece below because it looks awesome;
And what the different dimensions of the stem into the PNP mean. Is there anyone that has a glass adapter that fits snug in the black pnp casing top? And that rests on the white isolating material and doesn't touch the bullet? That seems like the ideal scenario to me. Snug fit with the inside walls of the pnp, resting on the white O-ring and not touching the bullet for maximum airflow (because of the wider diameter in comparison to solution 1 and 2). And that combined with a screen in the glass above the bullet.
Am I missing some better methods? And which one do you guys think is best of all these?
Little side question; the white bottom below the screen of the bullet in the pnp is getting a bit clogged with very fine brown avb particles. It looks like something you don't want clogged up because I think the heated convection air is sucked through that porous material? I tried to get out with a brush, but that doesn't seem to get the finer parts out.
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
I found these solutions, but I'm not entirely sure which one is the best/easiest to make.
1) https://www.ioffer.com/i/ogb-14mm-vaporizer-whip-adapter-made-in-oregon-usa-13-143480789
This piece (ask for 1.5 cm stem length after the 'bubble part') inserted in the pong gives this;
I think the glass touches the inner side of the bullet lip with this stem. And he keeps the bud inside with a screen on the bullet. This seems like a great solution, but I don't know if it's very sturdy. I want to use my pnp upside down on a bong, so it should sit very stable on it's glass mouthpiece.
2) http://www.vaposhop.nl/vaporizer_accessoires/vaporizer-parts/ascent-glass-inner-mouthpiece/
This also looks like the glass would touch the bullet top. Kinda the same principle, but then I would still be using the plastic 14.5mm adapter to let it sit on the bong. It might be a better and more stable solution. With still an all glass path. It is much cheaper for me to get those DV ascent parts since I'm close to the netherlands. But it looks like it doesn't come with a screen on that NL webshop. Is it easy to cut one myself that would stay in fit? I don't see how it wouldn't just shoot up.
3) Another recommendation I read was this one; contact OGB glassblower and ask for a 14.5mm GonG to 12mm (Diameter) by 12mm (length) stem.
I was asking myself if that is this piece below because it looks awesome;
And what the different dimensions of the stem into the PNP mean. Is there anyone that has a glass adapter that fits snug in the black pnp casing top? And that rests on the white isolating material and doesn't touch the bullet? That seems like the ideal scenario to me. Snug fit with the inside walls of the pnp, resting on the white O-ring and not touching the bullet for maximum airflow (because of the wider diameter in comparison to solution 1 and 2). And that combined with a screen in the glass above the bullet.
Am I missing some better methods? And which one do you guys think is best of all these?
Little side question; the white bottom below the screen of the bullet in the pnp is getting a bit clogged with very fine brown avb particles. It looks like something you don't want clogged up because I think the heated convection air is sucked through that porous material? I tried to get out with a brush, but that doesn't seem to get the finer parts out.
Yes. Number 3 is mine. That is the measurements you provided there, 12mm x 12mm. That one can be fit snugly through any shaped PonG adapter once you have filed out and removed the old Pong Shaft completely. Do it. It is ordered through the same link as iOffer at 1). OGB is great!
I found these solutions, but I'm not entirely sure which one is the best/easiest to make.
1) https://www.ioffer.com/i/ogb-14mm-vaporizer-whip-adapter-made-in-oregon-usa-13-143480789
This piece (ask for 1.5 cm stem length after the 'bubble part') inserted in the pong gives this;
I think the glass touches the inner side of the bullet lip with this stem. And he keeps the bud inside with a screen on the bullet. This seems like a great solution, but I don't know if it's very sturdy. I want to use my pnp upside down on a bong, so it should sit very stable on it's glass mouthpiece.
And that would be mine
also via the same glassblower as herbivore21 (thats right init? OGB yes? EDIT: Yes it is, you already answered that ). I've made it stable by shoving a small sliver of hi temp silicone up the PonG shaft (filth!) inbetween the glass stem and the PonG shaft wall (oo-er), its now well sturdy and hasnt come out at all (and I'm a fairly heavy user) but I'd be certain its not as sturdy as herbivore21's solution. I wondered if my solution might help keep the heat away from the plastic a little as the glass is only in contact with the PonG plastic via those small slivers of silicone tubing and the blue o-ring on top (so essentially, the glass doesnt actually touch the PonG collar at all). Yes, the stem fits on the bullets lip.I'll potentially be getting another glass piece from OGB, probably more in line with what herbivore21 has done to compare the two. Also, it'd be great to have an angled mouthpiece so you can sip it like a straw
(I've got another ridiculous idea for a glass mouth piece but OGB doesnt wanna touch it so i'll find another blower).
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HomeBrew77
New Member
Man, I was all stoked to get a Pinnacle Pro but after reading about these issues, I don't know anymore. Great website!
Sativape
Well-Known Member
I found these solutions, but I'm not entirely sure which one is the best/easiest to make.
1) https://www.ioffer.com/i/ogb-14mm-vaporizer-whip-adapter-made-in-oregon-usa-13-143480789
This piece (ask for 1.5 cm stem length after the 'bubble part') inserted in the pong gives this;
I think the glass touches the inner side of the bullet lip with this stem. And he keeps the bud inside with a screen on the bullet. This seems like a great solution, but I don't know if it's very sturdy. I want to use my pnp upside down on a bong, so it should sit very stable on it's glass mouthpiece.
2) http://www.vaposhop.nl/vaporizer_accessoires/vaporizer-parts/ascent-glass-inner-mouthpiece/
This also looks like the glass would touch the bullet top. Kinda the same principle, but then I would still be using the plastic 14.5mm adapter to let it sit on the bong. It might be a better and more stable solution. With still an all glass path. It is much cheaper for me to get those DV ascent parts since I'm close to the netherlands. But it looks like it doesn't come with a screen on that NL webshop. Is it easy to cut one myself that would stay in fit? I don't see how it wouldn't just shoot up.
3) Another recommendation I read was this one; contact OGB glassblower and ask for a 14.5mm GonG to 12mm (Diameter) by 12mm (length) stem.
I was asking myself if that is this piece below because it looks awesome;
And what the different dimensions of the stem into the PNP mean. Is there anyone that has a glass adapter that fits snug in the black pnp casing top? And that rests on the white isolating material and doesn't touch the bullet? That seems like the ideal scenario to me. Snug fit with the inside walls of the pnp, resting on the white O-ring and not touching the bullet for maximum airflow (because of the wider diameter in comparison to solution 1 and 2). And that combined with a screen in the glass above the bullet.
Am I missing some better methods? And which one do you guys think is best of all these?
Little side question; the white bottom below the screen of the bullet in the pnp is getting a bit clogged with very fine brown avb particles. It looks like something you don't want clogged up because I think the heated convection air is sucked through that porous material? I tried to get out with a brush, but that doesn't seem to get the finer parts out.
@ TreeHouseT,
The DA stem hack job was by me and also Pinnacle Pro!!! Gotta give credit where credit is due!
The DA stem does rest against the bullet flange creating a nice tight seal.
I also trimmed back the Pong shaft material in an angle to just catch the angled rim of the PNP.
As for the screen in the DA stem, I took a 3/8" screen and shaped it around a sharp punch.
The shape of the screen is just like the one that goes into the PNP pong and MP.
I made it a super tight fit and it ain't moving anywhere.
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herbivore21
Well-Known Member
By the way, a Epicvape E-Nano 14mm adjust-a-bowl GonG fits perfectly into the chamber resting on the white ceramic rim where the PonG stem would rest.
$12.95. Get it, it'll fit the pinnacle pro perfectly. You could even get the all glass gong.
$12.95. Get it, it'll fit the pinnacle pro perfectly. You could even get the all glass gong.
BarnBoy
Reformed Combustor
LMFAO- I just ordered one of these not 15 minutes before your post. Thanks for the confirmation! Do you have any examples/experience of this modification? Else I will just figure it out and post the same...
To me, this looks like what @Engineering used...
-BB
EDIT: http://www.epicvape.com/accessories..._aromatherapy_botanicals_herbal/adjust-a-bowl
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herbivore21
Well-Known Member
I have the 14mm adjust-a-bowl gong Put a screen filter on top of bullet, stick gong into top of pnp without anything to hold it in (perfect width to hold itself in place), then rip away!
nishidake
Member
Just an aside: It's a bummer that the eBay seller wasn't familiar with Massdrop! I use it too and it's awesome. I'm pretty sure, though, that that last drop was for the original Pinnacle, not the Pinnacle Pro, so he wouldn't have price-matched it anyway.
Mickey Bricks
Member
Thanks for the continued help. But I'll admit, I'm not too keen on all the (acronym) lingo just yet. With that said, what's an rma? I'm open to considering just about any viable solution at this point, because I really can't seem to figure this problem out.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
ha
That is a return merchandise number. Get a hold of who you bought your unit from and send it back. It sounds like your unit isn't heating up enough to make the vapor needed. The more time you take the longer it will take to get a new vape.
Philreal187
Well-Known Member
I have an extra 3 in stem from my bong that's just about a 1/2 in wide, which by judging by eye is about the same width as the pong. An extra pong came with my water tool it was the clear one so I want to try and cut the top off and if I can the bottom half too. but I'm not sure if I have the right tools around to get it done. I'm off work tomorrow so that's a good time to try and get this together.
Here is pictures of what I have and possible ways for it to fit on to the pnp unit.
http://imageshack.com/a/img196/5676/cl8u.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img836/5163/78y5.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img855/7910/cx42.jpg
I don't know why I cant get the picture to show up on the post, I did do it once not sure how.. haha maybe someone can remind me.
Here is pictures of what I have and possible ways for it to fit on to the pnp unit.
http://imageshack.com/a/img196/5676/cl8u.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img836/5163/78y5.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img855/7910/cx42.jpg
I don't know why I cant get the picture to show up on the post, I did do it once not sure how.. haha maybe someone can remind me.
Ratm22
Cloud Transcender
You have to use image shortcode
Code:
[IMG]http://insert img url here[/IMG]Now I have ideas in stirring in my head about how to craft my own pong. Maybe a silicone whip attachment.
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Herr_Dampf
Well-Known Member
Guys, Massdrop isn't a retailer. Its a community that arranges group buys via wholesale channels and pays a few guys to take care of the logistics. As such, it doesn't really make sense to ask a retailer to accept the massdrop price as the lowest retail price.
bellas
Well-Known Member
I was in on the last Mass Drop it turned into a waiting disaster. I have tried two drops both the PPro and the Magic Flight grinder. Both turned into three month waits. In the end I could have done both buys thru yoyokid and gotten them faster.
Alas my PPro is in limbo as I had to send it back due to battery problem. I have not been too impressed with the companies communication. They requested that I send my unit signature required which I did. After two weeks I emailed them as to the status and they said it could take up to a month or so. Absolutely no communication sense. I really thought they would email me when they received my unit which they didn't. Oh well seems they have a few headaches on the plate. Maybe I will get mine with a new glass mouthpiece!
Alas my PPro is in limbo as I had to send it back due to battery problem. I have not been too impressed with the companies communication. They requested that I send my unit signature required which I did. After two weeks I emailed them as to the status and they said it could take up to a month or so. Absolutely no communication sense. I really thought they would email me when they received my unit which they didn't. Oh well seems they have a few headaches on the plate. Maybe I will get mine with a new glass mouthpiece!
Sativape
Well-Known Member
Sounds like they should be called Massive Droppings...
I've had nothing but smooth transactions with theyoyokid1.
I've recommended him to friends also.
No problems.