Discontinued Inhalater XP

2clicker said:

im still sittin on my recently deceased Q2 XP. not sure if i should take Taylor's offer for store credit or if i should attempt to contact pharmacor about a replacement.

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I'd go for the replacement, still haven't found anything that can touch my two XP's for vapor production.

@2clicker Send us your unit over :-) All repairs are now operated and returned on the day of reception.

Still got a few replacements to go. Many thanks for the kind patience of the ones waiting

@slartibartfast: As you discribe, the auto mode is intended to set temperature just below where vapours get irritating. Warm up time is fixed: initial temperature starts at 5 on the dial and will increase 5 Celsius over the 8min cycle.

The idea is to maximise health benefit. Admintingly medication is left in the substrate when consumed on this mode.

Because of the many variable involved, the mode is tentative at this point. Could you provide us details on how much and what type of substrate you use and what color it comes out after use?

The type I used was buds... medium/fine ground dried flowers of medical grade.
I did get flavor, and I went ahead in absence of vapor to do an entire session.
I got flavor, on some inhalations.
I felt some warmth also.
The meds after 2 sessions at that setting were slightly "crisper"... and has gone from pure green, to an even green with slight yellowish tint to it.

@Vitolo If you were to set an automatic mode; how would it work? In what way do you work the dial to satisfaction?

All recommendations welcomed!

Inhalater said:

@slartibartfast: As you discribe, the auto mode is intended to set temperature just below where vapours get irritating. Warm up time is fixed: initial temperature starts at 5 on the dial and will increase 5 Celsius over the 8min cycle.

The idea is to maximise health benefit. Admintingly medication is left in the substrate when consumed on this mode.

Because of the many variable involved, the mode is tentative at this point. Could you provide us details on how much and what type of substrate you use and what color it comes out after use?

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So it's vapor stepping automatically... that's interesting. I guess I can live with that. The abv is definitely much lighter than my old unit. My old unit on my 24 minute cycle per full load the left overs were black, and I never went above a seven.

On this one after a full 24 minute cycle, I still get a little bit of vapor but the abv is a medium/dark brown. Not "almost black" as before. I still feel just as medicated. I should note, I only get visible vapor on either auto or if I turn it up above a seven. Nothing below that gives me visible vapor.

Regarding substrate, my profile picture is about an accurate example of what I normally get, and I am not in a medical or legal state so strain specifics are hard to come by. Also, I am sorry but I never weigh my loads so I can't tell you an exact figure. My grinder is about a medium grind however. Any other questions, and I'd be glad to answer.

If you'd like a photo, when I get back home I will can post one.

You most likely can get the substrate to almost black be turning the dial just before the auto mode.

A qualitative estimation is quantity in the capsule. 0.3g for full. Using quantities from a 1/4 will create visible vapours but a higher temperatrure.

Inhalater said:

@Vitolo If you were to set an automatic mode; how would it work? In what way do you work the dial to satisfaction?

All recommendations welcomed!

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I have never considered an automatic mode.
I tested the Automatic mode out of curiosity to see what it was.
To be sure, I like to use set temperatures.
I like adjusting my temperatures manually, in all situations.
With this XP, the range I use is close together, and I do not work the dial at all during sessions.
I turn it to 5.5 (that is where the vapor production begins the best for me.)
I vaporize until the unit shuts itself down.
I restart it again at 7 - 7.5 and complete that session.
If I restart the unit for a third session, I don't complete the third session.
The ABV is very dark brown, and the flavor is no longer full at that point.

Inhalater said:

@2clicker Send us your unit over :-) All repairs are now operated and returned on the day of reception.

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whats the best way to set this up? i suppose the ship to address is on your site? do i need an RGA or anything?

@2clicker
Please see shipping recommendations at link below.

http://www.inhalater.com/shipping.html

@Vitolo Understood. How about an automatic mode that starts at 5.5 and gradually raises to 7.5 on 1 cycle period. Would that deliver too much medication?

Inhalater said:

@Vitolo Understood. How about an automatic mode that starts at 5.5 and gradually raises to 7.5 on 1 cycle period. Would that deliver too much medication?

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Wow.
I am impressed by your willingness to dive into a dialog about this.
It is a very interesting concept.
I do not think it would deliver too much medication.
It does not appeal to me, however.
I must to be fair, be totally honest.... and this is only from my personal perspective.
I would not use the automatic mode. I like to choose the level I am going to vaporize at, and turn the dial myself when/if I feel I need to go higher.
I appreciate that there is an auto shutoff. That is a wise thing... and the timing that has been chosen for this is very appropriate.
Manual adjustment is my preference for the way I like to vaporize, so I may be the wrong person to give you suggestions about the "auto" feature. (said with greatest respect, and desire to be helpful in all of your questions)

Being an added "brain/circuit", could using a timed, self increasing/adjusting, thermal component... tax the unit? Could it reduce the units expected longevity?

What I am going to do now...
I am going to spend this day... all day.. concentrating on this topic.
It is my wife's day off, so I will be portable most of the day.
My XP will be in my hand , and I will focus on the Automatic marking at the end of the dial....
I will concentrate on what I wished it would do.

PPN Keeping the cap on while warming up does bring down the odors.

I will cherry shisha and herbs on automatic and report on this. Mix is 60% herb 40% dryed out shisha. I don't usually go above 6 with this unless out of substrate and on economy mode.

@Vitolo

We sure are interested. All consensual ameliorations will be implemented at ASAP. There is no hardware overhead to a dynamic heating cycle.

Inhalater technology is scheduled to evolve quickly. Plans are layed out for the 2 upcoming generations of Inhalater. on a 36 month time frame.

Any merit in the idea of having an led light at the bottom so we can call it a flashlight to help with stealthiness?

Idea is great.

Implementation is more complex than may appear

At the moment, we expect to concentrate developing core functionality: Eventually technology and use will be understood and accepted.

i have had some extended tests with various vaporizers the last 2 weeks and i had let my XP aside to try some new (for me) units such as the hot pot,the lotus,the solo... i strongly believe that nothing can compare to the vapor production of the xp...instant vapor,with 0 effort + 0 maintenance...the only problem is the capsules have to be replaced and the prices havent gone down yet...thank god the company makes good deals and stands behind the product to support all customers no matter how long it will take...

purchased one last week. This week is gonna go so slow waiting for it Ill probably include a review if you guys want one.

vaplen said:

Ill probably include a review if you guys want one.

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yes please

well i suppose i will be sending mine in to pharmacor for a replacement... the ride begins

slartibartfast said:

Ok, so I've had my replacement now for the last week. I have no idea what model this is but it has just a narrow sticker going top to bottom and a frosted led, still just as bright as before.

It doesn't work like the older one, it's different. I used to vape around a 4 or so, then gradually work my way up to a 7. A capsule would last me 24 minutes. So when I got my replacement, I turned it up to a 4. Nothing. There was a little more taste than before so I said whatever, let's try this auto thing.

Anyway, I've been meandering about but I just put it in auto and my two firewoods, solo, and DBV which was keeping me going have now been put away again. I have no idea how this is works but I just put it in auto now and it's always giving me exactly enough vapor, just to the point of wanting to cough. The clouds are just as big but not as white or milky. Instead, much more of a blue tinge. Whatever it's doing, it's finally allowing me to get some sleep again. By the way, I only started smoking because I can't sleep. The two months I was without this thing I barely slept. So long story short, I take back everything bad I said about Inhalater. It took a while but they did right and I'm sorry I wasn't more patient. I eventually found the temperatures work, and just don't care, auto works well but I have no idea what it does. Thank you so much for doing whatever voodoo that automatic is. I have a pinnacle pro on the way but I don't even care anymore. Yay inhalater.

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I am happy to see others finally posting about the shuttle differences they too are noticing about their new replacements.... I too liked the auto but agree completely with Vitolo and Greg...it is maybe a bit thin and for sure too short..... I like to stretch out my temp climb as well.... I start around 5.5/5 for 1 run then step it up to 6.5/6 for the 2nd run which might get stepped on 7 before the run is timed out... then my 3rd run will often jump to 8/8.5/9....and like I think you mentioned with this new unit I sometimes need to start into a 4th run before all of my vapor extraction has stopped....

slartibartfast said:

So it's vapor stepping automatically... that's interesting. I guess I can live with that. The abv is definitely much lighter than my old unit. My old unit on my 24 minute cycle per full load the left overs were black, and I never went above a seven.

On this one after a full 24 minute cycle, I still get a little bit of vapor but the abv is a medium/dark brown. Not "almost black" as before. I still feel just as medicated. I should note, I only get visible vapor on either auto or if I turn it up above a seven. Nothing below that gives me visible vapor.

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Inhalater feels that you can get close to the same performance if you start out a bit hiher during warm up time {then give it a pull to get things rolling} I added that.....then after it has gotten going dial it back a bit......I will admit that this does help and for sure improves extraction a noticeable amount so you might want to give that a try.....
Oh and one last tid bit....if it is sleep you are after the much higher temps are your best friend...... as this is were... if your herb has any percentage of CBN's are extracted at the higher temps 8 & 9....

Inhalater said:

You most likely can get the substrate to almost black be turning the dial just before the auto mode.

A qualitative estimation is quantity in the capsule. 0.3g for full. Using quantities from a 1/4 will create visible vapours but a higher temperatrure.

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It disappoints me every time I see postings were the consumer pass along quite a few important mentionable characteristic differences and for whatever reason this manufacturer chooses to only respond to .....well here is a good example....."turn it to the highest setting and it will give you the dark brown color"...... and he is correct if you can handle the harsh heat on your throat it will indeed be as dark brown as the older......
I'm hopeful if enough of us write in to Greg to explain what each of us has noticed about the newer models.....they might try to figure out what caused the difference....so far they simply feel it is a temp thing or a temp patern might be more accurate...hence the open to ideas for the "Auto" mode

Crohnie said:

What's the battery life like for the newest model?

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Battery life has improved slightly.....which I think can be contributed to a slightly softer performance as well....the device is more closely or tightly controlled thereby making it a bit more efficient.... of course you must understand usage will always effect run times....so I believe you will notice it might last a few minutes longer is all.....

2clicker said:

im still sittin on my recently deceased Q2 XP. not sure if i should take Taylor's offer for store credit or if i should attempt to contact pharmacor about a replacement.

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I would also go for the replacement as I know how much you liked your XP..... the replacements are decent performers and as many have said the best I have ever used....but I you should know that my GF's unit ha already started showing signs the USB will quit charging very soon.....as the light is going off if the cable is to the right and it is getting worse......because of this I would say YES get your replacement but depending on your needs you may want to wait for the improved 05 model which could only be 2 or 3 months out....or do you get another one of these likely to have the USB issue....

PPN said:

I like my Xp more days after days, I never cough with it when I start at 5 and finish at 6 and clouds are bigs! Cleaning is easy and I don't clean it anymore since I put a little ball of coton in the deep of the oven (in the caps).

The only cons that I found is the smell issue when you want to be stealth, when it starts heating it smell like weed all around, after some draws the odour disappear (vaped), in a next future it could be a nice improvement to fix this smell issue....

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Almost forgot you....ha ha ....Anyway I think you may have caused your own smell issue....depending on a few things you have stated above.....
if your putting cotton in the cap just in front of the screen.....and
if you are using the cotton more than once.....I believe you might be trapping some of the oils that begin to immediately condense back into a solid....which will collect as an oily substance in your cotton...I'm sure you have noticed it......as I have been scrapping it off the inside walls of my draw tube.....
Anyway the cotton will inevitably collect oils ...and since the cotton is in the hottest portion of the heat chamber {sensor also} then I can see why it would give off a strong odor when heating up.....
I'm guessing it's not to bad with a fresh cotton in a cleaned cap......

I also have grown to respect and appreciate this newer version.....but by the same token... I still very much miss my fantastic Q2 started on 2 or 3.....so smooth.....and finisher her off on my 3rd run @ 7 or 8 without hurting my throat......ahhhhhh the GOOD Old Days........

after sitting idle in a box for some months now, I just charged the xp today and fired it up a few minutes ago (must have been 8 because it just shut down, restarted it to go for another round)
And I must say, I think I like it as much as I like the INH004.
I hardly used the xp ever because I was a bit afraid of it, a while ago I was more into low temp vaping and I guess I had one of the "hot running" xp's, I'm not sure but it gives me crazy vapor at 3 even lower, from 4 and up it gives me more vapor for longer than the pax on red does, so I was afraid of caughing up a lung. Since a couple of months I started to enjoy vaping at high temps as well, so that's why I tried the xp again and man do I like it !!
it's hard to keep up with this beast at 6, this is my second session and it's still giving me vapor galore.
And I'm not just sipping it every now and then, I'm pulling on it like it's my only link with oxygen !
This xp is from right in the middle where all the problems started, so I hope it won't happen to mine...

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ABV is near black, put it on a tissue and brushed it with my finger and it made dark marks on the tissue (don't know if this is normal) I didn't go above 6

Why does CBN help sleep? What are the other components in the vapours, what do they do and at what temperature?

Hey Inhalater. I got this great idea for you. I can sell it to you :-) It`s called the VapourAerator (tm) With this, you can vaporise all the way to maximum without throat irritation!

newVaper420 said:

Ohhhh no, the inhalator is dead?! . This is not good news.

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LOL~! the Inhalater is definitely not dead ! hahaha

TransHumanC said:

Why does CBN help sleep? What are the other components in the vapours, what do they do and at what temperature?

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I became a vapor enthusiast Mar of 2013 and if I'm not a fanatic already I'm well on my way....as I was reading as much as I could in the beginning.... I read about there being a difference in the experience caused by a higher amount of CBN's....the info is out here on the big wide web for sure but to make the story a bit shorter once I was able to I wanted to conduct my own little test....so I had my Q2 by my side and I enjoyed only the 1st and 2nd runs {which meant staying under 5} and I saved the ABV for the next morning.....{I always test with a clear head in the morning} Next day I loaded her up with ABV that needed to be finished off at the higher temps.....I vaped myself straight into a nice long nap..... talk about a body buzz.....never felt it quite so intense like that...... and now as a result..
I have found certain strains are best for during the day {head buzz} keeps me active....while other strains tend to knock me down {body buzz} and prepare me to retire for the evening.....

TransHumanC said:

Hey Inhalater. I got this great idea for you. I can sell it to you :-) It`s called the VapourAerator (tm) With this, you can vaporise all the way to maximum without throat irritation!

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I'm very curious about your mod.....so it makes sense that is would cool down the vapor for sure but I wonder does it also cut down or thin out the vapor as well..?
I would also be concerned about it causing the vapor to condense quicker and likely cause oil build up {aka gunk} sooner...but that won't be noticed until it been used a few times.....
I can definitely see it cooling off the harshness for sure.....

also side note: sorry I missed your posting before it was edited.....

Funny thing for me. When I vape full max I actually get very high and active. Very creative.

The modified capsules are exactly like using a water bong. Taste is fabulous. I'm really a low irritation person. I kept temperature around 5 but when I tried a bong I was hooked and searched for ways to make it portable.

It definitively thins down the vapours but being at high heat, clouds are still huge but taste is great and no irritation.

TransHumanC said:

Funny thing for me. When I vape full max I actually get very high and active. Very creative.

The modified capsules are exactly like using a water bong. Taste is fabulous. I'm really a low irritation person. I kept temperature around 5 but when I tried a bong I was hooked and searched for ways to make it portable.

It definitively thins down the vapours but being at high heat, clouds are still huge but taste is great and no irritation.

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first thing that pops into my head is adjustable airflow capsules.

then again they will prolly be $30 a piece!