I'm a Mary-Anne guy myself.
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Chill Dude
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Okay, so I guess I'm not getting it. What you're saying is the new Solo works best with the stock stems due to the fact there is increased airflow negating the need for the PVHES stems? If that's the case, do you think the PVHES stems are now obsolete with the new model? Some have said there's too much airflow with PVHES stems which results in wispy vapor and lower heat. Are the stock stems in vogue and PVHES are out? I'm confused... What do you say Caligula and others as I'm thinking of getting a second Solo, but have a shitload of PVHES stems.....
And I agree with Pipes Mary Anne all the way!!
And I agree with Pipes Mary Anne all the way!!
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You are already ahead in the game: I would suggest that since you have both stock AND PVHES stems, then both your old AND new Solo can be paired with the desired stem. Find your own comfort zone. As for me, I have only one Solo, less than a year old. I use all kinds of stems with it: Ed's wood stems, PVHES, Chillium hybrid, stock...you name it, I use it. Nothing is "obsolete", per your concern. They all work in different ways, but they work. I McGuyver, I adapt. Get the new model Solo and enjoy the differences, don't fret them.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Have you tried a WT with the new Solo?
Caligula
Maximus
I have and it seems about the same as with the old unit. Then again I've never been overly impressed with the vapor production via the PNWT, even when using it with my E Nano. I should be getting a legit matrix bubbler in the next two days, so Ill be sure to report back.
vv132
Active Member
so my first impressions on the solo not that it really matters at all,are its pretty damn good. Fast to warm up, small enough to carry around, decent vapor clouds, and feels high quality. I have a high tolerance right now coming off glass so I feel like it can only get better. was suprised how much flower the stem holds but I guess I have no other vape to compare it too haha
Thanks for the help
Thanks for the help
Caligula
Maximus
Less is more. Don't fill it to the brim (leave ~1 cm unfilled) and dont pack it down tight. Lightly tap the bowl down just enough that the ground herb doesn't fall out when inverted. No more than that. Typically Ill grind the herb then suck it up into the stem like a straw. From then just lightly press it down with your thumb.
From there, do long slow inhales. Like someone once said (forget who), try to shoot for a 1 minute long inhale. You wont make it at first, but it will give you an idea on how to pace your inhale speed.
Caligula
Maximus
I find that metric to be too subjective.
Edit: Pulling down some serious clouds using the above mentioned techniques. Im more and more impressed with this unit and the stock straight stem.
BTW, @ level 5 I got a (probably overloaded) stem done in 5 good sized hits. Dark brown ABV. Very short session duration and flavor retention was awesome as always until the very last 6th hit (which was whispy). Probably could have gotten 1 or 2 more half assed and terrible tasting hits after that if I wanted.
If I can go through a full stem in ~ 5 minutes (including warmup time) every time, then this is a game changer for me.
Ill use a stopwatch next time.
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Caligula
Maximus
Okay here is what I started with:
That was loaded/packed by sucking the freshly ground herb (Jack Herer) into the stem and lightly tamping it down with my finger. I'd call it a loose pack. Just tight enough that it didnt fall out when turned upside down.
I felt the bowl area of the Solo and it was about ambient temp so I'd consider that a "cold start". From there I inserted the stem, turned the Solo on, selected heat level 5, and started my timer.
@ 1:10 the indicator showed level 5 had been reached so I started to draw. I kept going at a brisk but not uncomfortable pace, averaging 30-40 second inhales. I kept this up until I saw a noticeable diminishment in vapor production and flavor.
That happened @ 5:20:56 into the session.
I turned the Solo off, and kept drawing for one last hit to "cool down" the bowl as I normally would. I sometimes find I get one last light hit by doing this. Not so much this time though. As such, I'd call the actual end time @ ~ 5:30.
Anyway, this is what I was left with:
Can't really say there is any green left although I'm sure I could get some shitty tasting hits out of it if I cranked the heat up and really tried. But I don't really want to do that. Ever.
How does that compare to your Solo? Only you can say. To my previous model, its improved.
That was loaded/packed by sucking the freshly ground herb (Jack Herer) into the stem and lightly tamping it down with my finger. I'd call it a loose pack. Just tight enough that it didnt fall out when turned upside down.
I felt the bowl area of the Solo and it was about ambient temp so I'd consider that a "cold start". From there I inserted the stem, turned the Solo on, selected heat level 5, and started my timer.
@ 1:10 the indicator showed level 5 had been reached so I started to draw. I kept going at a brisk but not uncomfortable pace, averaging 30-40 second inhales. I kept this up until I saw a noticeable diminishment in vapor production and flavor.
That happened @ 5:20:56 into the session.
I turned the Solo off, and kept drawing for one last hit to "cool down" the bowl as I normally would. I sometimes find I get one last light hit by doing this. Not so much this time though. As such, I'd call the actual end time @ ~ 5:30.
Anyway, this is what I was left with:
Can't really say there is any green left although I'm sure I could get some shitty tasting hits out of it if I cranked the heat up and really tried. But I don't really want to do that. Ever.
How does that compare to your Solo? Only you can say. To my previous model, its improved.
OF
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Me too. Ginger is kinda high maintenance for an island with so few resources. No beauty shops or high end clothes stores.......
I guess it's fine as long as it's not the Skipper that interests you.....that's a different show you know. It's on cable.
OF
Curiousone
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You guys suck...this was my only complaint with the Solo...takes too long to extract, although it is so damn good at extraction! (I'm still in love with my solo) Now you're (Caligua) saying the newer iteration is even better. Right after I bought a pax to switch things up! Damn you (but your efforts are appreciated)! Now I must hit my old solo pretending I've heard no such news of a newer and better Solo beyond the horizon...THX FC assholes
for continuing the grass is greener problem for me
for continuing the grass is greener problem for me
zymos
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From the battery university link:
"Table 4 summarizes these results. The values are estimate and depend on the type of li-ion-ion battery."
Then look at Figure 5. It shows decreased battery life with OVERCHARGING. I'm not seeing anything saying UNDERCHARGING increases cycles. In fact, figure 5 shows slightly longer life by slightly overcharging to 4.25.
I know this has come up a bunch of times before I got here, and there might be additional information from other sources I'm not seeing here. Like how the exact battery and charger that come with the Solo behave- how full is a full charge, in a real life Solo, not an estimated graph?
I can't resist stirring up shit sometimes, sorry....
OF
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How about reading the part just before the part you quoted?
"Most Li-ions are charged to 4.20V/cell and every reduction of 0.10V/cell is said to double cycle life. For example, a lithium-ion cell charged to 4.20V/cell typically delivers 300–500 cycles. If charged to only 4.10V/cell, the life can be prolonged to 600–1,000 cycles; 4.00V/cell should deliver 1,200–2,000 and 3.90V/cell 2,400–4,000 cycles."
IMO that kinda spells it out. Charge to 4.1 per battery instead of 4.2 and you "double the cycle life". Drop it again (by what many will consider a small amount) and it doubles again!
600-1000 cycles is more than 300 to 500. 1200-2000 is even more attractive to some. It's worth noting that Solo really hammers the battery (it gets hot providing lots of current) we're going to be getting the low end of those estimates, if even that.
Figure 5 does not show what you think I think? Note the slope of the curves? We want flat, not dropping like the proverbial stone. It's the slope that tells the tale. Imagine the next line, it would be more horizontal than the 4.2 line (just what we want) and extend clear off the chart (as would 4.2 if you continued it out to where it only had 500 to 600 mAh left (like the others).
Yes, there is similar information out there as well (much of it hard to read), this is not a secret, it's common knowledge amongst those that work with such things. The military often, to avoid ever having to worry about replacements, limits their charging to 4.0 Volts or so. The sacrifice 'hours per charge' gladly for that, forcing vendors to install bigger batteries at higher cost (and threat them better).
The answer to 'how full is Solo' is the ones I measured ran between 4.15 and 4.2+ per cell. It's not so straight forward since there are two batteries in series and it has to shut down when the weaker of the two reaches full charge. In general, each step on the 'battery meter' is .1 Volt total (.05 per cell). The first LED comes on at 7.2 total (remember one will be less than the other), top step covers above 8 total. There's actually lots of time to 'catch it at 7' if you want. This also explains why you typically get two sessions on the top light (it covers .4 Volts or so) and the others only one usually (they cover smaller ranges).
So, yes, Solo left on it's own charges to 4.2 Volts, give or take. At least 3 times (the ones I measured).....or I would not have brought the matter up in the first place. IMO the 'issue' is real.
OF
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
Flew 8 hours from LAX then 1 hour flight to a small island in the FRENCH SOCIETY ISLAND CHAIN following a 1hour boat ride.
No commercial fishing within 125 miles so the fish are huge!!!
Ginger, Coconuts, Mangos grow wild.
Cannabis would grow really well here!
The natives in this part of the world have been brain washed to believe wrongly about Cannabis. Since I was up to 2 grams a day usage I thought I would go cold turkey for 8 days. My tolerance needed adjusting anyway.
The problem is I have been
Reading about scientific evidence supporting Cannabis.
This tread makes me miss my SOLO'S!
OF
Well-Known Member
Now there's an interesting idea......a "Johnny apple seed", only different.
Maybe we should make a non profit organization to support 'Taxi; paying his way from island to island spreading joy and happiness for generations to come? Future generations will call him blessed......
Who knows, centuries from now some future Archeologist on some remote island could dig up a giant stone statue of our own Ataxian........
OF
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
happythoughtsforrobots
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Hello fellow vapormates. I just got an M1C1 Solo about a week ago from a top rated plus ebay seller that claims they will honor the warranty, etc..
It took me a little while to get the hang of it but I am able to produce good visual vapor.
Here's my issue. The unit doesn't stink but I get illness from vaping. Just the smell of the vapor makes me ill now. I get a bit nauseated and my lungs feel all jacked up like they're full of thick funk. I thought I might just be getting coincidentally sick or something so I quit for a couple days. Then, yesterday, I took a tiny hit of herb with combustion and a little glass pipe - wow - I felt great! I remembered why I love herb in the first place. What is going on!?
I had a glass sherlock vapor genie for a couple of years and vaped on that consistently but never felt ill from it. My vg broke awhile ago so I had been smoking again exclusively until the solo.
I've always felt that the high from combustion is a bit different from vaping but I have no desire to vape on this solo, I would rather quit the herb than use that thing...
Any suggestions?
It took me a little while to get the hang of it but I am able to produce good visual vapor.
Here's my issue. The unit doesn't stink but I get illness from vaping. Just the smell of the vapor makes me ill now. I get a bit nauseated and my lungs feel all jacked up like they're full of thick funk. I thought I might just be getting coincidentally sick or something so I quit for a couple days. Then, yesterday, I took a tiny hit of herb with combustion and a little glass pipe - wow - I felt great! I remembered why I love herb in the first place. What is going on!?
I had a glass sherlock vapor genie for a couple of years and vaped on that consistently but never felt ill from it. My vg broke awhile ago so I had been smoking again exclusively until the solo.
I've always felt that the high from combustion is a bit different from vaping but I have no desire to vape on this solo, I would rather quit the herb than use that thing...
Any suggestions?
Caligula
Maximus
Pics or it didnt happen!
Did you do dry runs to off-gas before using the unit?
happythoughtsforrobots
Well-Known Member
Yes, I forgot to mention - I did 3 12 minute sessions on 7 with the cap open to let it burn off any factory funk.
Ok, this is messed up. I just turned on my solo and stuck my nose up to the open "oven." It smelled faintly of burning plastic and solder and abv herbs. Ok, that's lame but now I feel really sick. Nauseous and dizzy as hell. Ok, well, that answers my question. Now I'm really bummed because I just ordered Planetvape turbo tube and some other supplies for my new toxic solo.
Man, spending hundreds of dollars on something that has made me physically ill for the past week is totally fucked up! How can Arizer sell something like this!?
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Now what more perfect epitaph than a giant 'stoned' statue for our own Ataxian. In contra - Long Live Ataxian! I see rainbows ever set above those blessed islands, whence far future islander generations revel in song the praises of the Benevolent Lord Ataxian
. One seed at a time will plant the Earth.
Caligula
Maximus
Well, you are literally the only person I have heard of this happening to or its all coincidential and/or psychosomatic.
