Do level 3 just for me out of curiosity. I have also noted that there is a difference between models and or serial numbers. In my case models as the 102 is hotter then the M1a3. I just don't think we can get an accurate temp. Ask someone in the digital vape business how they do it if you know such a person.
Sure, I can check step 3, but it's a bit silly with the sort of accuracy/resolution I can get watching running numbers I think. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't half way between 2 and 4, same as I measured 5 between 4 and 6. I put more stock in '80 degrees from 2 to 6' than how different 3 is from 2 or 4. But, like I said, we can put it on the list....I hope.
I disagree somewhat, I think we can say that the load at the tip of the TC was 430F with fair confidence. Good even? Precision of such gear is very good. Moreover there's almost trivial scale issues if the system is 'clean'. Basic physics of the two metals used forces a small but very repeatable voltage to be generated, which can easily be very accurately read and 'looked up' for display. The system is, I think, very precise and probably quite accurate. Within a percent or so? The basic meter is rated at .4 degrees, plus or minus sensor error, which I hope to confirm is accurate enough for our uses. I'm waiting on another set of probes for that part.
I know basically how Arizer does it (they use a thermistor, temperature dependent resistor, a 'NTC' one in fact. Negative Temperature Coefficient, the resistance goes down as temperature goes up. More limited in range, but cheaper and easier to deal with, common digital thermometers use them. TC are industrial stuff, this one goes to like 2300F, used to control furnaces, experimental rigs and so on. I've used them a long time, we're old friends. AFAIK this system, modest as it is, is far superior to anything used in vapes or any other routine production item. It really does sense the temperature at the center of the load, although it probably still reads artificially low for heat flow reasons.
This is much like using a very precise thermometer in your living room to tell you how hot the room is as opposed to the setting on the thermostat. Literally.
Thanks for the thoughts. I fully agree, most of us 'play it by ear'.....and I'm cool with that. What's the old joke, 'I don't know what kinky is, but I know what I like...'? But I'm finding it kinda fun when I try to put real (or what I think are real) numbers on that it's not making sense here? Still 'results not expected' are the meat of the scientific method, or so I'm told.
Wow, you wrote and worked alot to figure out temp is dependant on draw. Ever load a bowl crank it up to 6 then have the phone ring or something, forget about the solo and then when you hear the beep as it turns off you grab it and the bowl has just toasted it self up? I have. I think it gets extra hot if you just let it sit, while on. I've lost a few bowls like this.
I think you missed the point. I think everyone knew it would depend, the question is how much and why? I'm looking for numbers, mostly 'cuz that's the kinda guy I am.
Sure, I've had it idle vapor away, I don't think at anything like the same rate as actively drawing on it. From what I just reported again above, I've measured 400 F in a cotton packed bowl at step 6, it can get at least that hot. I think we all expect the goodness to wonder away at 400F given enough time, don't you?
As far as getting 'extra hot' just sitting I don't agree. I saw drops of ten degrees in a few seconds. It would fall 20 degrees sometimes as I tried to catch my breath between hits. It never went up. It might be different at other places in the load, but I tend to doubt it will be much so?
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