CCA710 LIGER - AIR

Anon3200 said:

In theory titanium is better for transferring heat to an insert. It is also more durable and allows the manufacturer to use more complicated designs. The issue here is that dude is depleating the heat available in the insert. He needs to do dabs that are more appropriate for the thermal mass, to turn up the temperature to match his dab size, or to use glob mode so the heater coil is transferring additional heat though the titanium to maintain the temps on the sapphire (and to compensate for thermal lag). Also, are you using the CCA profile on your kubeone? if you're using a quartz profile instead of a titanium one then that's going to not be as good of a match.

Titanium is a better thermal conduit then Court. Quartz has higher thermal Mass especially if you're comparing three or four mm to maybe one mm at the most on the liger air.

The last time I was able to get dabs for less than 15 / G, I bought a QP but that source is gone and I just don't see myself needing to do penny dabs at current prices. I know things are different for people in other areas of the country but for most of us, a dab the size of a bb or 2 is as large as one really needs or wants to go on a regular basis. The liger offers an incredible weight to performance ratio, is extremely efficient, and produces excellent flavor with BB sized dabs.

I think these newer High terpene mixes have a higher entropy of vaporization, so they take more energy to vaporize even if it's at a lower temperature.

There is nothing wrong with using titanium in the way the Josh is doing with his company. I don't think it is fair for you to make these statements implying that his fundamental manufacturing process is flawed because it uses titanium, when that is not what is going on. He is selling the liger as a lightweight device. Maybe he will come out with a heavyweight device or find a way to increase the thermal mask for crazy people that want to take giant penny dabs at super low temperatures and don't want to use glob mode. The cool thing about him having his own machine shop now is that he can come up with these new designs and make small changes with high precision and high tolerances.

However if people are getting misled by your statements and believe that there is something wrong with using titanium in nail manufacturing then he won't be able to come up with new technology for us to play with. I know they're working on a bunch of new designs over there, for me I've been very happy with CCA products for several years and I can't wait to see what they come out with in the future!

I just plan for slow shipping times. I will place an order and months or weeks later it will show up generally on my birthday (for the last 3 years, oddly enough). He really should put 3 to 6 week waiting in his order form, at least tell he catches up on his backlog.

The problem with having a backlog of orders is that you want to work as hard as you can on getting them out but you also have more customers contacting you and that takes time from manufacturing. This happened to me at a former workplace seven or eight years ago. The phone would not stop ringing with people asking about the orders and we didn't have enough time to give as good at customer service as we like because we needed to get the orders out, also we were working overtime and not performing as well because of it.

I bet Josh raised his prices as a way to throttle the orders until he catches up. I know the dude is trying and says he is crazy busy still.

Those obsidian inserts are pretty good I would have taken a free insert if I was that guy or if I wanted a partial refund I would have requested it before going online to complain publicly.

Remember when his website glitched a few years back and allowed people to buy any configuration of liger kit for $99 if they change the color after adding the inserts and caps. One guy came out here bitching cuz he wouldn't the sell him a $700 kit for a hundred bucks. He got nothing whereas I was nicer and more patient and Josh actually came with a compromised for me after his stock numbers were better. I have been a loyal customer since.

Give him a break, I think the logistics here are a lot more complicated and difficult than we understand. It seems like he is trying to the scale his company to improve a logisitics but it takes time. Honestly I am amazed that the transition from CAD design to running an actual machine shop in-house went so smoothly. The quality of the machine work is higher than ever then the firm he was outsourcing manufacturing to and they have been machining for several years. That is an amazing accomplishment.

Let's see how he does after he is done with the backlog. If it still takes him 3 to 4 weeks to ship an item then I'm still going to buy from him.

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Anon3200 said:

lightweight titanium rig to a heavy quartz rig

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Anon3200 said:

You said adapt tech hooks you up too, not me.

maybe you can explain to us why you are selling your quartz rig?

I'm not saying titanium is the ultimate and best material for making a banger but comparing a lightweight titanium rig to a heavy quartz rig is not fair. If you're not going to bother to try to understand and adapt to the thermal dynamics at play then please don't make broad statements on things that you don't understand.

Just trust me it's not the vapor path. I'm not going to bother explaining what's going on again as you are obviously not listening.

People say you are born with two ears and one mouth for a reason... Dang the internet and humans 10 fingers.

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Hogni said:

Does a triple posting make a statement more profound?

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416rosin said:

I can confirm that the hurricane cap gets stuck in the air. Went a day longer than usual without cleaning and low and behold the cap jams. I try to spin the cap and the whole banger comes off with the downstem. Burned my thigh pretty good and burned my wood flooring. Somehow managed to avoid breaking my quartz insert thankfully. Thanks CCA. Well designed!

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Shooby said:

The hurricane in theory is a great design but the fact it get stuck in the liger is retarded. After it happened to me twice, i went to a glass cap. They never get stuck. Coojo glass on IG. $45 and you pick you colors. best cap for ligers.

@scalescliffs Looks nice. Happy to see that working out for you. as a back up, get yourself a 14mm to 10mm reducer for $12-15. You cant even notice it and works great. Those expensive ass ti adapters are useless. They get stupid expensive for rainbow.

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