Gear Slug .33 Rosin Forge

PPN · Sep 3, 2018

Got some good kief today... can I load my deuce with flowers-kief-flowers?

Or is it better to load it with kief only? how much to fill the Deuce (it's moroccan compressed kief)?

How do you put the filter mesh screen... around the kief before to insert it in the Deuce or just cut a circle piece which fits the bottom of the Slug?

Don't know if it's a good idea since I didn't perfected my tek (only 2 runs without any success... both done blowouts)... maybe it might be better to stick with my hair iron for now....

Gonzo_Dabs · Sep 3, 2018

Natty has a video on YouTube of him using kief.

But yeah I would recommend more practice before using something more valuable. If you are having blowouts you could be doing a couple things wrong. Overtightening in hopes that it'll finally ooze out. This could really mean not enough heat. Or it wasn't loaded correctly. There should be a little bump of material coming out the end. It's okay if it goes past the bottom of the slug a bit as long as it isn't falling out and as long as it's not spread out too much as far as thickness. You should be able to put the piston in the slug so that it will stay put while you move it and have a little bump coming out the bottom. Once you place it in the vice put the end with the material coming out of it against the vice first and bring the other plate to the piston. Start compressing a bit until it gets a bit tighter. Maybe 1/3 of the way. Then start your heating while slowly compressing it.

This is how I've been doing it. I would love to hear advice or criticisms. Right now I'm just trying to perfect my technique according to the material I'm using

steama · Sep 3, 2018

PPN said:
Got some good kief today... can I load my deuce with flowers-kief-flowers?

Or is it better to load it with kief only? how much to fill the Deuce (it's moroccan compressed kief)?

How do you put the filter mesh screen... around the kief before to insert it in the Deuce or just cut a circle piece which fits the bottom of the Slug?

Don't know if it's a good idea since I didn't perfected my tek (only 2 runs without any success... both done blowouts)... maybe it might be better to stick with my hair iron for now....

I think flower/kief/flower works great and it may work great without any flower. When I did this I used flower/kief/flower and still ended up with a greenish tint goo that was delicious and extremely potent. Two grams of total material with a deuce and you should be golden.

ClearBlueLou · Sep 4, 2018

Hi, y’all, made it back, and yes, I had a fine vacation... but just about time for another pressing.... On the ‘pressing in the woods’ front: beware the stuck-together forge!

Not a joke: we ended up with a stuck piston and completely unprepared to put it back in service. If you plan to take your forge into the wild, KNOW that you have the gear, and the clean-up plan, before you begin to press. I have found that soaking the slug in ISO WILL un-gum it, but you need an ISO-proof container large enough to hold the body of the forge for the soak. You’ll want to immerse the barrel, no need to cover the piston.

Nattybushdoctor · Sep 4, 2018

Yes, when we let our Slug.33 cool down without cleaning it the plunger is hard to remove, your spacer should provide good grip to pull it out. If that does not work, just heat it up with your torch for a few seconds and your good. If you heat it up long enough, just enough so you can barely handle it, cleaning with a paper towel is a breeze!

ClearBlueLou · Sep 4, 2018

-dab8- said:
Nice! Report your findings. I’d love a cheap pen for when I don’t want to use my dynavap for concentrates.

Do you have a problem using dabs with your VapCap?
More broadly, are people having problems with it?

I ask because I haven’t noticed any, but I’m preparing to step up to more concentrates in my diet, and plan to use my ‘Caps as primary vehicles.

Gonzo_Dabs · Sep 4, 2018

Lou all you need is the torch to get it unstuck like Natty said. I heat it up in the vice and use a large screwdriver against the spacer to lift it out. I am going to be looking into a heavy duty C-clamp for a portable option. Although my entire set up with the vice and everything will fit into my Pelicsn gun case I use for my .357.

steama · Sep 4, 2018

I dissected several of my spent dry pucks. One side has a shine and one side is dull and dry. I cut them right through the center to see if there was a noticeable layer of rosin. The shiny outside layer is so thin it is not noticed at all when cut in half. All pucks are pretty much drained of all available rosin with only the smallest amount of loss being only one side with a shiny outer surface.

I am even more satisfied with the performance of the slug33 after doing this test I realized how efficient this method is of removing the max amount of rosin available. Yields are directly tied to the quality of the flower.

Slugg33 kicks some royal honey ass.

:myday:

-dab8- · Sep 4, 2018

ClearBlueLou said:
Do you have a problem using dabs with your VapCap?
More broadly, are people having problems with it?

I ask because I haven’t noticed any, but I’m preparing to step up to more concentrates in my diet, and plan to use my ‘Caps as primary vehicles.

Honestly I haven’t tried. I got into vaping through doing dabs with a nectar collector of sorts, found this forum searching for rosin presses, bought a slug, bought a deuce, pressed delicious rosin, wandered into the dynavap forum, bought vapcap, bought several more vapcaps, and have been hooked on using those with flower. It’s only about now that I’m seriously wanting to try the dynavap with rosin. I’m wondering if I should only do it on a dedicated rosin cap so it doesn’t gym up the others?

steama · Sep 5, 2018

ClearBlueLou said:
Do you have a problem using dabs with your VapCap?
More broadly, are people having problems with it?

I ask because I haven’t noticed any, but I’m preparing to step up to more concentrates in my diet, and plan to use my ‘Caps as primary vehicles.

I made a concentrate pad for my vapcap out of a volcano liquid pad. It works fine but since I have a Flower Pot VROD the vapcap concentrate thing sees no action...only flower with my vapcap as of late.

For rosin I don't think a person could do any better than a VROD from New Vape. Everything that company makes is of the highest quality. Their gear will be around 200 years after we are all gone. Just like a the slug33 stuff.

:nod:

ClearBlueLou · Sep 5, 2018

Nattybushdoctor said:
Yes, when we let our Slug.33 cool down without cleaning it the plunger is hard to remove, your spacer should provide good grip to pull it out. If that does not work, just heat it up with your torch for a few seconds and your good. If you heat it up long enough, just enough so you can barely handle it, cleaning with a paper towel is a breeze!

I understand, but I was trying not to step on the toes of the kids, and I left my Slug at home so had no cleaning preparations made. I’m no more or less practiced than A, but A was coaching B in heating, and B was as clueless as as I’ve ever seen that particular guy. I otoh have been here reading, and watching all the videos.

BornAgainSteama said:
I dissected several of my spent dry pucks. One side has a shine and one side is dull and dry. I cut them right through the center to see if there was a noticeable layer of rosin. The shiny outside layer is so thin it is not noticed at all when cut in half. All pucks are pretty much drained of all available rosin with only the smallest amount of loss being only one side with a shiny outer surface.

I am even more satisfied with the performance of the slug33 after doing this test I realized how efficient this method is of removing the max amount of rosin available. Yields are directly tied to the quality of the flower.

Thank you for your science!

BornAgainSteama said:
I made a concentrate pad for my vapcap out of a volcano liquid pad. It works fine but since I have a Flower Pot VROD the vapcap concentrate thing sees no action...only flower with my vapcap as of late.

For rosin I don't think a person could do any better than a VROD from New Vape. Everything that company makes is of the highest quality. Their gear will be around 200 years after we are all gone. Just like a the slug33 stuff.

Got a link? Search turned up nothing (I don’t believe it either, but...)

I’ve probably implied this, but I’m going to be using this rosin for edibles a lot. There’s a lot of push back from folks who think that dabs are the devil, and some folks, there’s just no explaining ANYTHING to. The more options for rosin intake, the better

I don’t have cancer, but I’m old enough to feel old, so I plan to work up to a half-gram of rosin a day. I’ve eaten almost all the butter I made, and while I am satisfied with it as a replacement for things like Motrin and Tylenol, I’ve not really noticed much head response. I would like to get high off it, but I’m wanting to really take it seriously as medicine, so that requires dosing accuracy and regularity.

Personally, I find that even if I don’t ‘feel’ a high from edibles yet, they definitely jet-propel whatever I’m vaping

ClearBlueLou · Sep 5, 2018

I posted a page or two back about what I did, I estimate with 0.3g of resin added to the original canna butter 1/2 t should give me 100mg as a starting estimate. Right now, as long as this lasts, my purpose is to get a stable oral daily dosage. If nothing else, it will augment whatever other form of intake I can arrange.

Yes, I make my own edibles. Base plan is to use whole rosin from my Slug as a lipid supplement. Currently butter, but planning to try ghee and olive oil as well. Not a fan of coconut oil: mcts as they are found in coconut oil are NOT very available, and most other benefits of coconut oil haven’t done well under scrutiny. As two of my dearest friends died suddenly, days apart, due to clogged arteries, I’ll skip that much saturated fat.

As I said, I’d like to get a kick from it, but I don’t have to. I’ve not tried RSO, but I know he recommends getting used to higher oral doses, and that’s the basic thrust of my effort: to raise the base level of ECS activation, and get used to the navigational changes while doing so.

ClearBlueLou · Sep 5, 2018

I’m not to the point of being able to buy an ounce just for medicine for myself, and I’m quite sure one ounce to a half-pound of butter would be plenty; if we imagine fully pressing an ounce, that would be nearly a half-gram of rosin per pat of butter, and that’s definitely in RSO range for potency. The butter I used as a vehicle for the first product of my Slug is not in that league, but I will get there with the batches to come, and my dose will rise...right now I’m just laying a foundation after a several-month layoff.

So far, I’ve used my butter a couple times a day, no stone, as I mention, but also no balance problems, I’m present of mind, I can do simple ordinary thing easily, and after today, I can drive without degradation (six days consecutive).

So even tho I’m familiar with RSO, it’s not around these parts, we don’t have our right to grow recognized, we don’t have legal-state prices to pay. I learn as much as I can, and I search for ways to apply what I’ve learned.

So far, I feel it’s working. I’ve been taking Motrin, Tylenol daily for years due to a high level of inflammation n my body, and due to the very physical nature of my work. Over the last six days I have loaded and unloaded trucks, help erect structures, helped host a party, stayed up three nights in a row, got plenty of sleep, took down structures, loaded trucks, oh, and spent almost an entire day behind the wheel immediately before and after. Without any OTC interventions needed, or even a need for them being noticed.

So whatever dose I’m getting in actuality, I’m getting enough to do the work of 12 ibuprofen and 6 acetaminophen on the daily, so - so far so good

steama · Sep 5, 2018

ClearBlueLou said:
I’m not to the point of being able to buy an ounce just for medicine for myself, and I’m quite sure one ounce to a half-pound of butter would be plenty; if we imagine fully pressing an ounce, that would be nearly a half-gram of rosin per pat of butter, and that’s definitely in RSO range for potency. The butter I used as a vehicle for the first product of my Slug is not in that league, but I will get there with the batches to come, and my dose will rise...right now I’m just laying a foundation after a several-month layoff.

So far, I’ve used my butter a couple times a day, no stone, as I mention, but also no balance problems, I’m present of mind, I can do simple ordinary thing easily, and after today, I can drive without degradation (six days consecutive).

So even tho I’m familiar with RSO, it’s not around these parts, we don’t have our right to grow recognized, we don’t have legal-state prices to pay. I learn as much as I can, and I search for ways to apply what I’ve learned.

So far, I feel it’s working. I’ve been taking Motrin, Tylenol daily for years due to a high level of inflammation n my body, and due to the very physical nature of my work. Over the last six days I have loaded and unloaded trucks, help erect structures, helped host a party, stayed up three nights in a row, got plenty of sleep, took down structures, loaded trucks, oh, and spent almost an entire day behind the wheel immediately before and after. Without any OTC interventions needed, or even a need for them being noticed.

So whatever dose I’m getting in actuality, I’m getting enough to do the work of 12 ibuprofen and 6 acetaminophen on the daily, so - so far so good

One time I made so much butter it went rancid before I had a chance to use it all. Since then I try to make smaller amounts. Yet one more reason the slug33 fits perfectly in my life.

:freak:

-dab8- · Sep 5, 2018

ClearBlueLou said:
Do you have a problem using dabs with your VapCap?
More broadly, are people having problems with it?

I ask because I haven’t noticed any, but I’m preparing to step up to more concentrates in my diet, and plan to use my ‘Caps as primary vehicles.

No, not really. Hadn’t tried much because was just doing the nectar collector, but recently tried squiby’s S&B pad hack with great results. You basically use pliers to squish an S&B pad till it is the diameter of a vapcap, cut it in half, stick it in the cap, and put concentrate on it. Works great! Can also use de-gummed hemp fiber.

BornAgainSteama said:
For rosin I don't think a person could do any better than a VROD from New Vape. Everything that company makes is of the highest quality. Their gear will be around 200 years after we are all gone. Just like a the slug33 stuff.

have you looked at the ditanium vaporizer? Like a log and a flowerpot combined. I’m super intrigued. Also does both flower and concentrate, and at the same time if you want.

ClearBlueLou said:
I understand, but I was trying not to step on the toes of the kids, and I left my Slug at home so had no cleaning preparations made. I’m no more or less practiced than A, but A was coaching B in heating, and B was as clueless as as I’ve ever seen that particular guy. I otoh have been here reading, and watching all the videos.

Got a link? Search turned up nothing (I don’t believe it either, but...)

Not sure who’s toes you stepped on, or who you feel is completely clueless. I think everyone here is learning, and enjoying the awesome products of @Nattybushdoctor

Regarding using concentrate pads, I briefly explain how at the top of this post, but there are pictures from squiby in the best of dynavap thread.

BornAgainSteama said:
One time I made so much butter it went rancid before I had a chance to use it all. Since then I try to make smaller amounts. Yet one more reason the slug33 fits perfectly in my life.

Butter freezes remarkably well. You can use an ice cube tray to freeze the butter into small amounts, throw them all in a bag in a freezer, and take out what you need when you need it.

ClearBlueLou · Sep 5, 2018

-dab8- said:
have you looked at the ditanium vaporizer? Like a log and a flowerpot combined. I’m super intrigued. Also does both flower and concentrate, and at the same time if you want.

I haven’t looked at it, I never heard of it before your mention. I did ask for a link to info about the VROD, because I am curious about what steama uses.

Not sure who’s toes you stepped on, or who you feel is completely clueless. I think everyone here is learning, and enjoying the awesome products

I was talking about my off-grid Slug session. The toes were there, not here.

Butter freezes remarkably well. You can use an ice cube tray to freeze the butter into small amounts, throw them all in a bag in a freezer, and take out what you need when you need it.

Yes, it does work very well

BornAgainSteama said:
One time I made so much butter it went rancid before I had a chance to use it all. Since then I try to make smaller amounts. Yet one more reason the slug33 fits perfectly in my life.

Make stronger butter, brother. Between the rosin and the pucks there’s no reason you can’t make some righteous butter-extracted goodness for yourself.

UPDATE: so I just did press #2. I got much less out this time, the puck is spongy and sticky and glistens, and there’s rosin running out of the inclined slug (which won’t give up the piston yet And it’s the middle of the effing night again, and here I am playing Mr. Stoner Wizard in the garage

ClearBlueLou · Sep 6, 2018

Good morning, crew!

So, daylight assessment of last night’s run tells me I got 3.25g back in the puck, meaning I pulled 0.25. I’m pretty sure there’s reason to run this batch again, with added to make up the target weight of 3.5g since 30% would be 1-1.5g. Ought to still be another 0.5-0.75g of oil in there.

The whipit torch worked fine last night: I middled my rate setting, moved in closer than I had been, started the clock and the cranking. Switched sides after 2 min, and began to get flow right at the end of the heat. Used the blazer for additional spot heat at the bottom of the press.

I did NOT use the IR gun.

Product is best described as honey oil. Any tips on how to collect it off the whatever?
And on the subject, what’s the best way to lift it off an unscrapably charred parchment?
(Yes, I burned the parchment paper again, but it got goo in the burn)

For the short term, I’ll be soaking my Slug in 99% ISO before washing.

Speaking on the subject of tools, I’d love to see y’all’s favorite tools for this work. Pads, dabbers, bulk moves, tricky bits, my go-to tool is what’s left of an old crochet needle that was my grandmother’s. The hook on the end of it broke off long ago. I also have the dental tool called an explorer. My only ‘actual’ dabbler is titanium, maybe 5”, has a pencil-type point with a small ball at one end. The other end is a wide, short, curved spatula. Ish.

steama · Sep 7, 2018

ClearBlueLou said:
Good morning, crew!

So, daylight assessment of last night’s run tells me I got 3.25g back in the puck, meaning I pulled 0.25. I’m pretty sure there’s reason to run this batch again, with added to make up the target weight of 3.5g since 30% would be 1-1.5g. Ought to still be another 0.5-0.75g of oil in there.

The whipit torch worked fine last night: I middled my rate setting, moved in closer than I had been, started the clock and the cranking. Switched sides after 2 min, and began to get flow right at the end of the heat. Used the blazer for additional spot heat at the bottom of the press.

I did NOT use the IR gun.

Product is best described as honey oil. Any tips on how to collect it off the whatever?
And on the subject, what’s the best way to lift it off an unscrapably charred parchment?
(Yes, I burned the parchment paper again, but it got goo in the burn)

For the short term, I’ll be soaking my Slug in 99% ISO before washing.

Speaking on the subject of tools, I’d love to see y’all’s favorite tools for this work. Pads, dabbers, bulk moves, tricky bits, my go-to tool is what’s left of an old crochet needle that was my grandmother’s. The hook on the end of it broke off long ago. I also have the dental tool called an explorer. My only ‘actual’ dabbler is titanium, maybe 5”, has a pencil-type point with a small ball at one end. The other end is a wide, short, curved spatula. Ish.

Awesome success!

As far as cleaning slugs go there is a very fast way to clean them completely. While the slug is still warm take a slightly damp cloth with ISO and just wipe the slug off. There is nothing more to clean. There is never a need to 'soak' a slug in ISO...never. It is simply a not needed additional step, more work, more clean-up.

:2c:

ClearBlueLou · Sep 7, 2018

Thanks, Steama! I soak because I’m lazy: when I see oil glistening, dripping, my instinct is to “save that!”

In a weekend encampment, pulling it apart and wiping it all down with prep pads is fine.

Run three, the repress of herb from run two, seepage out the top was my only product, and I stopped heating the moment I smelled the terps. I ran 2:25 per side, and almost completed side 2. Oh well. This puck will go straight into the batch of ghee I made last night.

I still have something like a dabbable amount of oil lost on the parchment. There seems to be no way of scraping it or lifting it, it’s too gooey, and there’s charred paper with it in places. I suppose I could just wash the parchment with the iso already in use...anybody tried that?

All this causes me to wonder if I have the right kind of source material. It’s always a potent smoke, but I *never* get anything with trichomes showing, or hairs. I do have some of a different batch, it’s not as tough/rock-hard as what I’ve been pressing, so I’ll clean everything up tonight and try again after bedtime with the other material.

Hope everyone has just the kind of weekend they want!

steama · Sep 7, 2018

ClearBlueLou said:
Thanks, Steama! I soak because I’m lazy: when I see oil glistening, dripping, my instinct is to “save that!”

If you were truly lazy you would use the method that is less work. You are a very hard worker. Also, if you are trying to save what ends up on the outside of the hot slug you are wasting your time, that does not taste good especially for such a small amount. It tastes like burnt rosin and is almost black when collected.

I get the impression you are trying to make ISO hash by saving the stuff on the outside of your plug through soaking in ISO. Personally, one of the main reasons to get into rosin is that it is solvent free which has a much better more comfortable high. I have made some 'very good' ISO as far as ISO goes it is complete shit compared to chemical free rosin.

Good luck buddy.

:peace:

virtualpurple · Sep 7, 2018

I know it’s not intended with the slug but as a few others have mentioned I still would love to see how this thing would perform with a constant heat source. If someone figures out how to heat the slug with an enail coil or something it’s almost a guaranteed instant buy for me (once funding is more available), but it’s awesome to see how much people are enjoying this bad boy!

steama · Sep 7, 2018

Here is an image of my collection/cleanup kit...I use all of them (bic lighter not shown).

edit: I am going to try freezing the rosin while it is on the parchment and see if I can get it to pop off.

:science:

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virtualpurple said:
I know it’s not intended with the slug but as a few others have mentioned I still would love to see how this thing would perform with a constant heat source. If someone figures out how to heat the slug with an enail coil or something it’s almost a guaranteed instant buy for me (once funding is more available), but it’s awesome to see how much people are enjoying this bad boy!

Just ask @Nattybushdoctor about how to do this. I could be wrong but I believe it is mentioned earlier in this thread. I think they may be working on such a thing only larger.

:brow:

Gonzo_Dabs · Sep 7, 2018

Freezing the rosin on the parchment works very well for me. I fold the paper on itself and squeeze right before freezing. When I separate the paper it usually sticks to one side and leaves a nice lump of rosin. I got another good run.l last night. I'm way less awkward the more I use it. I've done some really dumb things using this slug haha it's a whole new world for me.

I picked up a piece to try my rosin out but they sent the wrong one. I ordered the 7in Grav Circuit but received the 5.5. I do not like the nail it comes with and would appreciate any recommendations y'all have for a good quartz nail. I am new to dabs.

steama · Sep 7, 2018

Gonzo_Dabs said:
Freezing the rosin on the parchment works very well for me. I fold the paper on itself and squeeze right before freezing. When I separate the paper it usually sticks to one side and leaves a nice lump of rosin. I got another good run.l last night. I'm way less awkward the more I use it. I've done some really dumb things using this slug haha it's a whole new world for me.

I picked up a piece to try my rosin out but they sent the wrong one. I ordered the 7in Grav Circuit but received the 5.5. I do not like the nail it comes with and would appreciate any recommendations y'all have for a good quartz nail. I am new to dabs.

Thank you so much Mr. @Gonzo_Dabs for info on freezing rosin. Can't wait to try it. Any additional tips would be appreciated.

New Vape Flower Pot VROD best for dabs it is a desktop and works with almost any glass. New Vape also sells a portable Flower Pot setup but it is large like the real thing (it is the real thing with a battery) for a group or party. Looking at the prices for portable enails it seems to make even more sense to just get possibly the best vape set-up on the market...The Flower Pot.

Whatever your priorities are there is a vape for you.

:nod:

-dab8- · Sep 7, 2018

BornAgainSteama said:
Thank you so much Mr. @Gonzo_Dabs for info on freezing rosin. Can't wait to try it. Any additional tips would be appreciated.

New Vape Flower Pot VROD best for dabs it is a desktop and works with almost any glass. New Vape also sells a portable Flower Pot setup but it is large like the real thing (it is the real thing with a battery) for a group or party. Looking at the prices for portable enails it seems to make even more sense to just get possibly the best vape set-up on the market...The Flower Pot.

Whatever your priorities are there is a vape for you.

Sounds like you aren’t in the market, but did you ever look at that ditanium vaporizer I mentioned? Like a cross between a log vape and the flowerpot, you don’t need a glass rig, and it can also do both flower, concentrates, or both at the same time.

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