hweezi

formally cwheezy
Hi all,

Can someone tell me the length of both the:
~ Ti Woody
and the
~ Ti Woody fitted with the XL Condenser and mouthpiece?

I know that the XL Condenser fitted the Ti Woody makes it 17mm longer, but I don't know the overall original length. I have searched the forum up and down and cannot find mention of this.

I have been looking at some small antique boxes to store my beloved vaps. The Dynastash will certainly be perfect for going out and about but I want to have a box to store the caps, a lighter and herb together.

The newer blackwood body with two collars I received measures at just slightly over 3½'', with the MP attached she's 4¼''.

Getting on very well with my TiWoody now. I feel like I've found a few easily repeatable torch techniques for different temperature hits.

Also been very much enjoying concentrates in the VC. I load flower : concentrate : and then top with a little more flower. The vapour is thick and delicious.

I love my VapCap.

I'm buying another one :brow:


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Squiby

Well-Known Member
@Squiby 3 & 5/8 inches or 9.2cm is my ti woody.

XL is 4 & 1/8" or 10.7cm

These are all approximate as I didn't take mine apart to fit the XL in. I just layed it beside it but hope this helps.

Thank you so much!

You never know what you will find at the weekend auctions. I have seen some contenders at local antique stores. Now I know what to measure for.

With ever expanding collection of modular components and body choices, George may have to come up with an accessory storage box to match the dynastash, but to store our spare bodies and stems. No home would be complete without one! LOL
 

Derrrpp

For the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
wait, really? like with water or just some wipes??
You should be able to wipe the soot off with just a piece of cloth or a tissue or whatever. If it's being really stubborn a drop of water would probably help it come off.
 
Derrrpp,

Edmond Dantes

420 Bern it
Stupid question, anyone try a electronic arc lighter with the vapcap?

Like this

Torch lighters always struggle at super high altitudes.

Wow that thing looks classy af. I haven't been able to test anything yet, but initially I'm going to say it probably wont work. it looks like the cap will have a hard time getting even heat distribution with a linear heat flow as produced by arc lighters. And even then I'd be surprised if the metal cap can get close enough to the heat source without having the arc just jump to the cap.

Might I suggest an alternate route? I plan on building a coil and using a 30W e-cig battery to heat the cap, though i bet it'll take some testing to get just right this'll probably solve the altitude problem and is rechargeable in the same way as the lighter linked. =D
 

Dramma Lamma

Looks like a job for!
Wow that thing looks classy af. I haven't been able to test anything yet, but initially I'm going to say it probably wont work. it looks like the cap will have a hard time getting even heat distribution with a linear heat flow as produced by arc lighters. And even then I'd be surprised if the metal cap can get close enough to the heat source without having the arc just jump to the cap.

Might I suggest an alternate route? I plan on building a coil and using a 30W e-cig battery to heat the cap, though i bet it'll take some testing to get just right this'll probably solve the altitude problem and is rechargeable in the same way as the lighter linked. =D


Yeah, the E-cig route is an option I may take. I need to go buy an new rda tho and some wire, I gave up on that and sold it, only keeping the MVP.

I am also quite hopeful that this vector lighter will help solve my problem. It is rated to 14K feet, and has a flint to strike. The 12K vector lighter I have manages to fire and work where I need if you use a bic to ignite it first. So I'm quite hopeful, too bad its only a single flame.

Here is a torch dual flame and flint ignition, but it's expensive and I don't have experience and trust the manufacturer yet. Also no mention of it's altitude capability. It also doesn't really look like it strikes with flint either.

I've bought that Vector Elite, as I trust vector. Also snagged the Vector legend.
 

mrboxer

New Member
I want to purchase a DynaVap for travel and stealth purposes, but perhaps also for hashish and occasional use since it´s so damn sleek. Glass would be nice, since it´s easy to fully clean, but it makes it look more like paraphernalia than wood.

1. Are there any benefits or downsides to the TI Wood over the glass version?

2. Is the cracking wood some here had problems with been fixed?

3. For what kind of users will the premium of the Omnivap be worth it?
 

priestsmiler

Well-Known Member
Paytonpenn i think had a video of him using a ecig mod to heat his vapcap on YouTube. Looked an impressive setup. I wonder if the hammer vape could be used in same way?
 
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anasrzi

Well-Known Member
I want to purchase a DynaVap for travel and stealth purposes, but perhaps also for hashish and occasional use since it´s so damn sleek. Glass would be nice, since it´s easy to fully clean, but it makes it look more like paraphernalia than wood.

1. Are there any benefits or downsides to the TI Wood over the glass version?

2. Is the cracking wood some here had problems with been fixed?

3. For what kind of users will the premium of the Omnivap be worth it?

My views

1) biggest downside of the glass is its fragile other than that there fine, nice cheap entry into the VC world. I own a omni and is much easier to keep clean if your a clean freak like me.

2) I believe so yes, by adding more cooling fins.

3) I firmly feel the omni is the the creme da la creme of the vap cap world but I'm of course bias, it can handle anything, weed, hash, oil can handle it all, don't need to worry if you drop it, can adjust the airflow so you can have some restriction which I feel it needs, heats up unbelievably fast as it's pure ti.

Personally I can't get enough my weed stocks are plummeting :lol:
 

mrboxer

New Member
I find it hard to justify the price tag of the Omni when the chamber is so small, and I´m waiting for a G Pen Elite and Grasshopper TI. I´m not a collector, so two portables is more than enough.

How would you rate it compared to better known vapes?
 

anasrzi

Well-Known Member
I don't know the true price of the omni as I supported vapcap with a initial investment for machining parts so had mine with a sizeable discount, I wanted a pure ti version simply for the hardness of the device, I snapped the glass version soon after I got it so I wanted that toughness.

The chambers of all of them is small but feel the omni is slightly larger than the OG but that could be because I can't see thru it, although small in chamber size let me say it meds you perfectly well and you can always blow out the spent herb and pack a new bowl in seconds.

I rate it very highly overall having had a fair few vape's, not as many as some but tried my fair share. Can't beat the easiness of use, size etc. I'm a big fan of the lotus but haven't used it since I got the VC,MLI much fuss and faff. Have a Milaana on order tho so I think although it's my go to vape right now it might well change very soon, still has its place. If you like smoking a spliff it's very similar IMO.
 

mrboxer

New Member
I don't really care if it has the premium feel of titanium. Just something durable and easy to clean. Is there a performance difference between the different models?

For 150$ I could get a new Haze V3 or for 175$ a ss grasshopper. I'm not convinced this gives the same bang for buck... Why not produce a ss version?
 
mrboxer,

anasrzi

Well-Known Member
Didn't know they were that much looked like I dropped one with having mine cheaper, I see where your coming from so on that note you might be better opting for orginal at the lower price point especially if your using it more so for a back up.
 
anasrzi,

Squiby

Well-Known Member
After a couple of months with the Vapcap, I can confidently say that it is the overall bestest herb consumption tool I have ever used period!

Whenever I try to vape with my once beloved Vapman or Lotus these days (my bro's Lotus currently) I immediately wish I wouldn't and I have an extra session with the vapcap right away to return to normality and superior vapor production... Really!

Mrboxer

I think Natural Farmer really sums up the performance of the Vapcaps. And, his opinion is further validated when babyfacedfinster replied

"Holy shit! That is impressive.

I've read your posts in a whole lot of vape threads so I'd have to say that's a pretty big deal."

I think the choice in model (OG, Ti Woody, Ti Glassy or the Omni)comes down to cost, fragility and aesthetics, with the Omni being the top of the line model that offers a greater degree of air adjustment.

Choose the one you LOVE within your budget, 'cause it will be with you a long long time, while the others sit quietly in a forgotten cupboard somewhere.
 

HikaruEyre

Active Member
I don't really care if it has the premium feel of titanium. Just something durable and easy to clean. Is there a performance difference between the different models?

For 150$ I could get a new Haze V3 or for 175$ a ss grasshopper. I'm not convinced this gives the same bang for buck... Why not produce a ss version?
What will you do when the Haze or Grasshopper get wet or you drop it and the electronics go out? I feel that I can get just as good as or better vape from the VC than I do from the E-nano. I'm just a heavy user and it seemed as though battery vapes could never keep up with my demand. Sure with some you could get an extra battery but that is added cost and more to carry around. I kind of like the smaller chamber because honestly you can only get so high. Problem with loading a big bowl or chamber is that you may be over doing it and waste material or get higher than you wanted to. Like I said I'm a heavy user and I don't find the .05 chamber in some vapes to really be an issue.
 
I was told this was the cost of the titanium!
There's something more to this, maybe he meant the tooling too? There's no grade of titanium that is that expensive.
Might I suggest an alternate route? I plan on building a coil and using a 30W e-cig battery to heat the cap, though i bet it'll take some testing to get just right this'll probably solve the altitude problem and is rechargeable in the same way as the lighter linked. =D
Believe you would have to use an unregulated device and short the chit out of it or somehow treat the coils where the cap wouldn't complete the circuit on a protected VV/TC mod. Maybe carbonizing the coil by torching them? I was experimenting in making a conduction unit with RTA's for a little while but got distracted with other nonsense.
I wonder if the hammer vape could be used in same way?
Negatory.
 

priestsmiler

Well-Known Member
Dammit would have been kinda cool to use the hammer as a heating tool for the cap oh well will be using the torch lighters which I ordered with the vapcap plenty then...
 
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flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
What will you do when the Haze or Grasshopper get wet or you drop it and the electronics go out? I feel that I can get just as good as or better vape from the VC than I do from the E-nano. I'm just a heavy user and it seemed as though battery vapes could never keep up with my demand. Sure with some you could get an extra battery but that is added cost and more to carry around. I kind of like the smaller chamber because honestly you can only get so high. Problem with loading a big bowl or chamber is that you may be over doing it and waste material or get higher than you wanted to. Like I said I'm a heavy user and I don't find the .05 chamber in some vapes to really be an issue.

Easy there, big fella. VC is awesome and don't think it can be beat for the price (even the Ti/Woody can only be bested in bang-for-buck by the OG glass, and that's only a maybe). But, if you can get better vapor than from the nano, I want you to give me a proper training on how to use mine (or maybe I can help you out with nano technique).

There are also battery vapes out there, coming out now, and still in production that can probably do a little better with vapor production (Milaana sure does!), but not at this price or as simply depending on your perception of "simple".

Also true "you can only get so high", but 1 or 2 loads in the VC aren't going to get most there - certainly not me, and neither are 3 or 4. But, I've always felt the first few hits are where it's at with vaping. After that, you can still extract but isn't really the same taste wise or otherwise. VC is awesome through hits 1 & 2 and 3 usually isn't too bad, but more of a cleanup. With easy dump and reload, VC keeps me very happy on all fronts.

VC is an amazing vaporizor and tough to beat if you're not near power, and I'd say impossible to beat at its pricing. Also, pretty discrete and a small package to carry (even with stash and lighter). I'm a fanboy, too. But, lets try to keep it realistic so as not to lose credibility with those who are researching and wondering if this is all just hype - or if this is a worthwhile vape. It definitely is a giant killer and think it would do well as an addition to anyone's vape arsenal.

@mrboxer .... I think the Ti/Woody is a big step up from the OG VC. No doubt worth the cost difference IMO. And, not just for the look/feel of it. It does perform better IME, and for me is well worth the upgrade! I don't have an OmniVap, and probably won't get one. It does look sweet, and many may appreciate the adjustability of airflow. I would probably use it as much closed as possible, and have been able to shut off the airflow in my Ti/Woody by moving the internal O-ring down just below the hole. Easy to do (sometimes a flat ended toothpick helps if it tries to roll back up on insertion), and once it is in there it stays until you take everything apart.


PS.....
Stupid question, anyone try a electronic arc lighter with the vapcap?

Like this

Torch lighters always struggle at super high altitudes.

Has anyone tried, or is anyone going to try, this arc lighter? I'm very intrigued! Have one in my Amazon cart now, and will take one for the team if someone isn't already closer to trying it out. Thanks!!!
 
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mrboxer

New Member
I think the Ti/Woody is a big step up from the OG VC. No doubt worth the cost difference IMO. And, not just for the look/feel of it. It does perform better IME, and for me is well worth the upgrade! I don't have an OmniVap, and probably won't get one. It does look sweet, and many may appreciate the adjustability of airflow. I would probably use it as much closed as possible, and have been able to shut off the airflow in my Ti/Woody by moving the internal O-ring down just below the hole. Easy to do (sometimes a flat ended toothpick helps if it tries to roll back up on insertion), and once it is in there it stays until you take everything apart.

I´m not gonna get the Omnivap, the extra features have no value to me. I´m not willing to pay 149$ for something that needs a noisy torch and has to be reloaded with herbs all the time. It seems more of a collectors item or for enthusiasts who already have fallen in love with the VapCap.

I might get the Ti with glass instead of the OG VapCap. You say that it performs better, could you please describe the differences? I´m sure others than me are also wondering about this. I would only use this for international travel, backup for hiking and hashish if I can´t get good herbs. This thing draws way too much attention to be my daily driver.
 
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phattpiggie

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Accessory Maker
@flotntoke I took this from the ArcLighter site.
http://www.arclighter.com/arclighter-faq/

'However, unlike a large open flame, the area that comes in contact with your skin is very minimal.'
'It is similar to getting a burn with a regular lighter except the coverage is more like 2 hot pins to your skin.'

It sounds like it only heats an area the size of the diameter of the spark. I personally can't see it working.

@mrboxer I find the Ti better as well. The hard part is explaining why. I can get either thick full vapor in 4 heat cycles or 8 tasty light vapor cycles from both the Ti and glass bowls. They just do it differently. For me I like the way the Ti seems to give a more even spread of heat thru the load. I find it easier to get consistent hits with the Ti and my AVB is always a more even color.

The thing it has over the glass is that it will take a lot more abuse, if you drop it it won't smash, but the glassy stem may. You could break the wood stem if you weren't careful. So a proper 'hiking' VC would be of all metal construction. There was mention of a non Omni all Ti.
The Omni is a set and forget VC once you've adjusted it to your liking you will have no need to feather or cover the carb. I don't have one but this is my impression of how it works and is something I adopted in my stems. The standard size carb is 2mm mine is 0.5. The Omni would be nearly screwed all the way in to get the same vapor/air ratio. All the way out being the 2mm.
 

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
I´m not gonna get the Omnivap, the extra features have no value to me. I´m not willing to pay 149$ for something that needs a noisy torch and has to be reloaded with herbs all the time. It seems more of a collectors item or for enthusiasts who already have fallen in love with the VapCap.

I might get the Ti with glass instead of the OG VapCap. You say that it performs better, could you please describe the differences? I´m sure others than me are also wondering about this. I would only use this for international travel, backup for hiking and hashish if I can´t get good herbs. This thing draws way too much attention to be my daily driver.

What anyone thinks of any vape is very subjective. To each his own, in other words.

For me, I love this little guy. It is not my only vape, but it is a killer addition to my arsenal. All my vapes have a special purpose or function. The woodie is very functional. Right now I attach the original soft mouthpiece to it and it becomes a great gong for my bubbler. I am in the process of getting a vong attachment for greater use with my bubbler. The woodie stem will then come out when I need to take a vape outside where I need to be discreet.

At home, I will platoon the Vong and my nano with my bubbler.

Also, you just can't beat the customer service from George which is the best I've experienced.

The way the VC milks glass is amazing.
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
I´m not gonna get the Omnivap, the extra features have no value to me. I´m not willing to pay 149$ for something that needs a noisy torch and has to be reloaded with herbs all the time. It seems more of a collectors item or for enthusiasts who already have fallen in love with the VapCap.

I might get the Ti with glass instead of the OG VapCap. You say that it performs better, could you please describe the differences? I´m sure others than me are also wondering about this. I would only use this for international travel, backup for hiking and hashish if I can´t get good herbs. This thing draws way too much attention to be my daily driver.

Ti Glass I don't have, but Ti/Woody compared to OG VC? Think it is similar in use because the business end is the same. Hopefully someone who has both will confirm.

Biggest difference is that Ti/Woody is much more consistent. I know pretty much what it is going to do based on where I heat the cap, and with what lighter (triple, double or single torch). The OG isn't really that different from hit to hit/load to load, but not as consistent. The ability to shut off the airpath is also a big plus for me. I had used a piece of rolling paper to create a valve in my OG, and it worked OK. But, shutting it off entirely with a piece of silicone restricted draw too much. Not sure, but think this is because of the notches cut in swirls on Ti end. Quite frankly, I like the feel of the smooth rounded wood in my mouth better than the rubber mouthpiece on the OG (hey..... I heard you snicker! How else could I say it?). It also has a better "feel" in your hand. A little more substance. Some of these may seem like small differences, but for me any of them except the "feel" justify stepping up to the Ti. All of them together make it a no brainer in my book.

As far as the VC itself, and whether you really want one for your usage, that depends. I haven't tried any hash in mine. I did drop a dab of shatter in with a load and enjoyed it. But, if I was going with hash I'd use my VapMan. They are both nice pocketable butane heated vapes, though the VC is a little more pocketable because of size/shape. One of the other major differences is convection vs combustion. VapMan is probably my favorite conduction vape. I don't really use anything else that is (now that solo is semi retired). Though VC does probably have a little conduction going on, it seems like it is mostly convection. That's tough to do for anywhere near this price range and makes a huge difference to me. My new Milaana does it better, but requires much more technique, is much larger, dealing with batteries, costs substantially more and not sure about where things are with shipping outside of US. The noise of the torch isn't really an issue for me, though they usually aren't very quiet. The only real downside to the VC for me is butane usage. Not any more or less than any other butane powered vape I've tried, but if you are going to be away from your can for long you'll have to get a big lighter or carry a couple. But heat, controlled heat at that, is tough to do without a better heat source than a Bic. And, for what it's worth the VC will work with it or any heat source. Just a matter of time and cleanliness since many heat sources throw off soot. I'd guess you could use a magnifying glass on a sunny enough day to heat it, but it would probably take a while.

I also have found that anything portable is going to require a good bit of reloading. And, as I said above I'm a small load kind of guy anyway unless I'm loading hash. After the first couple hits any vaporizor (portable or desktop) leaves me wanting, no matter how big the load is or how many actives are still left in it. So, this isn't the slightest problem for me. Quite the opposite. I don't have to worry about not paying attention and loading too much.

@flotntoke I took this from the ArcLighter site.
http://www.arclighter.com/arclighter-faq/

'However, unlike a large open flame, the area that comes in contact with your skin is very minimal.'
'It is similar to getting a burn with a regular lighter except the coverage is more like 2 hot pins to your skin.'...

Bummer! Guess it wouldn't work, or work too well. Think the biggest issue may be the heating in the limited area. If it would burn your finger like "2 hot pins", it would probably be a real pain to properly heat the VC. Thanks for the link!!
 
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