Discontinued Haze Dual V3

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After a week with my new V3 I can say I'm pretty happy with extraction, clouds and concentrates vaping. The new dry herb lids is very nice and I use cans more for flowers now, my new favourite for flowers is the convection screen.
Although I was using the conduction screens at setting one with the V2.5 and got long session with a nice taste, now I can't match this experience, even using convction screens, floral taste disappear quickly imho with the V3.

This vape is perfect..except for flowers taste conservation, in my humble opinion the Alfa at low (390!) taste pretty delicious for a while and the V3 taste pretty delicious only 4-5 hits...

Did the silicone lid can be used in any position?
 

getochkn

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After a week with my new V3 I can say I'm pretty happy with extraction, clouds and concentrates vaping. The new dry herb lids is very nice and I use cans more for flowers now, my new favourite for flowers is the convection screen.
Although I was using the conduction screens at setting one with the V2.5 and got long session with a nice taste, now I can't match this experience, even using convction screens, floral taste disappear quickly imho with the V3.

This vape is perfect..except for flowers taste conservation, in my humble opinion the Alfa at low (390!) taste pretty delicious for a while and the V3 taste pretty delicious only 4-5 hits...

Did the silicone lid can be used in any position?

That's what I was trying to say I guess, after a few hits the flower taste is gone even on lower temps. It does the body and mind well, just loose that taste a bit too soon. Maybe it comes down to packing. I've tried reading through the thread and some I guess really fine grind and pack it in fairly tight. I'm used to doing a bag on Arizer and the whole bag being tasty, so maybe I'm spoiled or it's just learning this a bit more. For me, I can't see using 3 or 4 for flower at all, it would be popcorn in 2 hits.
 
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trevorzamani

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That's what I was trying to say I guess, after a few hits the flower taste is gone even on lower temps. It does the body and mind well, just loose that taste a bit too soon. Maybe it comes down to packing. I've tried reading through the thread and some I guess really fine grind and pack it in fairly tight. I'm used to doing a bag on Arizer and the whole bag being tasty, so maybe I'm spoiled or it's just learning this a bit more. For me, I can't see using 3 or 4 for flower at all, it would be popcorn in 2 hits.
Yeah a portable vaporizer is a totally different experience than a desktop for sure.
 

Toolhead777

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Ok gang I FINALLY got time to clean my Haze V3 after 2 months of heavy use (60 days x 4 chambers per day = 240 cycles, through glass on level 3 and 4) I use the conduction screens exclusively. It only took about 20 mins for a top notch cleaning and I'm happy to say it is like brand new again! :nod: Check it out... :tup:
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Wow! What did you use to clean it with. Did you not notice any issues by not cleaning it often? I was cleaning mine every other day and the mouthpiece would get stuck inside and the oven lids would be to dirty. What is your cleaning secret man??
 

amishgonewild

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Looking for a new skiing device, and this seems pretty awesome. The Air, Pax 1, and MFLB seemed slightly underwhelming, and colder temperatures strain vapes in vapor production and battery life. Should I get the V3 or get something else? Zion is on the list, but I missed the first train
 
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Hot Dog Day 187

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Looking for a new skiing device, and this seems pretty awesome. The Air, Pax 1, and MFLB seemed slightly underwhelming, and colder temperatures strain vapes in vapor production and battery life. Should I get the V3 or get something else? Zion is on the list, but I missed the first train
I love my mighty when skiing!
Used to take my solo skiing and that was great but i worried about falling on the glass stem, because I go fast.
Hopefully I will know what the haze is like soon.
 

subway13029

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To be honest if you were underwhelmed by the solo and pax then i would say that the haze for power wise and vapor production is on par with these vapes..i like the haze more than the solo/air and pax but for more power and something of a smack in the face then i would go with mighty or crafty..zion of course looks to be a beast as well..i love my haze 3 but it is a portable that does alot of things really good..
 

mikeben

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Conduction screen dry herb of high quality on three or four and you do get a smoke machine. Yet yes much of it's appeal it how nice and subtle it let you use your materials of all sorts. The variety. Yet it can be a beast when you let it. I mean with a straight bubbler hit you can milk a good load of herb.
 

getochkn

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Well after lots of "testing" last night, I decided to see if I could reproduce my results from last night, or if I was just over medicated from test after test, so this is what I did and tried again this morning and I'm 10x even more happy with it.

My biggest issue was it seemed to be going through the tasty stuff too fast. Maybe this is just expectation after coming from a desktop v-tower and using an epen for smoking.

To me it seemed to be heating up too fast, either because of the can's not sitting tight enough to get a good seal at the top, the metal can's "feet" not allowing enough room at the bottom over the hole, using a can and screen in the two chambers and thus, not getting an even fit across the top, the way I was packing, etc. I came to the conclusion though that a good seal at the top is vital. if it's not sealed properly there by packing properly and using two of the same height chambers, the air you draw in that is heated just ends up all in the chamber, and not through the can/screen and just cooks whatever is in there too fast.

So I took two convection screens and put one in each chamber. Then I loaded another convection screen fairly tightly packed and put in it on top of the other screen. Now either this lifts the screen just enough off the bottom of the chamber so it's not sitting directly on it and creates a small tiny air gap at the bottom of the chamber to allow the air to come in better, OR, it push the screen that much tigher against the lid and helps force the air though the screen and material instead of around it. WOW. On 2, I got super tastys that lasted probably 15+ draws. Cranked up to 3, got some good clouds. No popcorn taste at all.

Next went to the oil can, put some concentrate in it. Put the can in the chamber, but with a screen in the chamber first. Started on 3. Again, either this forces a good seal at the top, or air gap at the bottom. WOW. Almost tasted like a hit of a nail. turned up to 4 half way through. Coughing and snot bubbles and clouds.

Next, dry herb in the oil can. Finely ground, tightly packed, and on top of a screen. Started on 3 being in a can. Taste that lasted for ever. It shut off on me twice due to the timer and I wasn't done the load. No popcorn taste. Turned up to 4. Finished it off, still no bad taste.

Next, nicotine e-juice. Soaked a pad with about 3 drops, put it in an oil can, again, with a screen already in there. Started on 1. Could taste the strawberry taste pretty good, but no clouds really. Turned up 2. got some nice vapors, but the taste was just a tiny, tiny, tiny bit too heated I think. I just use cheap epens but I know if I hold down my button too long, I get a too heated taste, quick button bursts and I can control the taste much better. With the e-juice, I think cutting a conduction screen and putting it on the bottom of the can, then the pad on top of that would just lift it up enough to get vaped by the heat and give good clouds on 2.


So my conclusion, a convection screen in each chamber is awesome. Then load on top of that. It also has the added benefit of keeping a screen over both of your holes so no material will ever get in either hole.

Why does this work ?

Could my vape chamber door be a tiny fraction too high, and I don't get a good seal and thus the air just heats everywhere in the chamber instead of through the material? I don't know.

could my vape chamber door be a tiny faction too tight, and it pushes the screen or can too far down and blocks the hole a bit and forcing the material to heat instead of air flow through it? I don't know.

Did I just come up with a better way for V4 or the can's to be designed? I don't know.


Does adding 2 screens in my cans and loading on top of those change my thinking from yesterdays "this is ok, I'll probably use it" to today's "wow, I haven't tasted anything so good from a vape ever"

When I get some more cans, I will experiment more. I think the oil can's are great, but I'd like to try drilling a few holes in the bottom, put a screen, then herb, block the 2nd hole on the silicon top so all the air flow is forced from the bottom hole, through the hole can and then into the mouthpiece. I would drill the holes near the back of the can since the draw is in the front, thus giving maximum heated air/convection exposure.

Anyone else wanna test my theories. lol.
 
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Slow Draw McGraw

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Conduction screen dry herb of high quality on three or four and you do get a smoke machine.
Not at all commenting on your "posting style" but please remember to use the word 'vapor' Instead of smoke. After all, that's what is- a vapor producing machine! :D
You're right about a bubbler and HAZE V3. Anyone who hasn't tried this will not be disappointed.:rockon:
 
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Custom Flower Hardware

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Wow! What did you use to clean it with. Did you not notice any issues by not cleaning it often? I was cleaning mine every other day and the mouthpiece would get stuck inside and the oven lids would be to dirty. What is your cleaning secret man??
brass brush, takes off all the gunk without scratching the steel:) the mp is never a problem getting out as long as you have the tweezers it comes with. I let it heat up to level 3 then jack the mp out with the reverse end of the tweezers. Once its hot it comes out like butter. Those who are having taste issues need to stop putting weed in the cans. Imho, too much metal going on in there. Use the conduction screens for more air flow. My OG davinci has cans with silicone lids and filling those with weed yielded the same results but packing the chamber and using the cans as a tamper made the taste go way further.:)
 
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duckTape

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Well after lots of "testing" last night, I decided to see if I could reproduce my results from last night, or if I was just over medicated from test after test, so this is what I did and tried again this morning and I'm 10x even more happy with it.

My biggest issue was it seemed to be going through the tasty stuff too fast. Maybe this is just expectation after coming from a desktop v-tower and using an epen for smoking.

To me it seemed to be heating up too fast, either because of the can's not sitting tight enough to get a good seal at the top, the metal can's "feet" not allowing enough room at the bottom over the hole, using a can and screen in the two chambers and thus, not getting an even fit across the top, the way I was packing, etc. I came to the conclusion though that a good seal at the top is vital. if it's not sealed properly there by packing properly and using two of the same height chambers, the air you draw in that is heated just ends up all in the chamber, and not through the can/screen and just cooks whatever is in there too fast.

So I took two convection screens and put one in each chamber. Then I loaded another convection screen fairly tightly packed and put in it on top of the other screen. Now either this lifts the screen just enough off the bottom of the chamber so it's not sitting directly on it and creates a small tiny air gap at the bottom of the chamber to allow the air to come in better, OR, it push the screen that much tigher against the lid and helps force the air though the screen and material instead of around it. WOW. On 2, I got super tastys that lasted probably 15+ draws. Cranked up to 3, got some good clouds. No popcorn taste at all.

Next went to the oil can, put some concentrate in it. Put the can in the chamber, but with a screen in the chamber first. Started on 3. Again, either this forces a good seal at the top, or air gap at the bottom. WOW. Almost tasted like a hit of a nail. turned up to 4 half way through. Coughing and snot bubbles and clouds.

Next, dry herb in the oil can. Finely ground, tightly packed, and on top of a screen. Started on 3 being in a can. Taste that lasted for ever. It shut off on me twice due to the timer and I wasn't done the load. No popcorn taste. Turned up to 4. Finished it off, still no bad taste.

Next, nicotine e-juice. Soaked a pad with about 3 drops, put it in an oil can, again, with a screen already in there. Started on 1. Could taste the strawberry taste pretty good, but no clouds really. Turned up 2. got some nice vapors, but the taste was just a tiny, tiny, tiny bit too heated I think. I just use cheap epens but I know if I hold down my button too long, I get a too heated taste, quick button bursts and I can control the taste much better. With the e-juice, I think cutting a conduction screen and putting it on the bottom of the can, then the pad on top of that would just lift it up enough to get vaped by the heat and give good clouds on 2.


So my conclusion, a convection screen in each chamber is awesome. Then load on top of that. It also has the added benefit of keeping a screen over both of your holes so no material will ever get in either hole.

Why does this work ?

Could my vape chamber door be a tiny fraction too high, and I don't get a good seal and thus the air just heats everywhere in the chamber instead of through the material? I don't know.

could my vape chamber door be a tiny faction too tight, and it pushes the screen or can too far down and blocks the hole a bit and forcing the material to heat instead of air flow through it? I don't know.

Did I just come up with a better way for V4 or the can's to be designed? I don't know.


Does adding 2 screens in my cans and loading on top of those change my thinking from yesterdays "this is ok, I'll probably use it" to today's "wow, I haven't tasted anything so good from a vape ever"

When I get some more cans, I will experiment more. I think the oil can's are great, but I'd like to try drilling a few holes in the bottom, put a screen, then herb, block the 2nd hole on the silicon top so all the air flow is forced from the bottom hole, through the hole can and then into the mouthpiece. I would drill the holes near the back of the can since the draw is in the front, thus giving maximum heated air/convection exposure.

Anyone else wanna test my theories. lol.

I tested your trick and it worked out amazing. The taste lasted much longer, even on setting 3. It's probably due to a small reduction in the temp, but the seal on top of the can is definitely improved also. The taste was seriously improved in my case, as the vapor felt more consentrated ;)
 

Toolhead777

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I love not having an auto-shutoff with this thing.
I thought it had a 5 min auto shut off? Mine was shutting off by itself after a few minutes sometimes, maybe when battery was lower??

brass brush, takes off all the gunk without scratching the steel:) the mp is never a problem getting out as long as you have the tweezers it comes with. I let it heat up to level 3 then jack the mp out with the reverse end of the tweezers. Once its hot it comes out like butter. Those who are having taste issues need to stop putting weed in the cans. Imho, too much metal going on in there. Use the conduction screens for more air flow. My OG davinci has cans with silicone lids and filling those with weed yielded the same results but packing the chamber and using the cans as a tamper made the taste go way further.:)
Great thanks for the tips!!
 
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getochkn

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I tested your trick and it worked out amazing. The taste lasted much longer, even on setting 3. It's probably due to a small reduction in the temp, but the seal on top of the can is definitely improved also. The taste was seriously improved in my case, as the vapor felt more consentrated ;)


Good stuff. Wasn't just me. lol. A simple screen though and what a diff eh.
 
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woolspinner

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Okay, I did NOT know you were not suppose to take the plastic wrap off, who lives plastic on their batteries? I've been using without the plastic wrap....am I bad? Now what do I do? Sorry. Did I miss the place where it said, DON'T take the plastic wrap off???
Mine had a slip of paper on top of battery package telling me to leave plastic on.
 

rshetts

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Okay, I did NOT know you were not suppose to take the plastic wrap off, who lives plastic on their batteries? I've been using without the plastic wrap....am I bad? Now what do I do? Sorry. Did I miss the place where it said, DON'T take the plastic wrap off???


You wouldn't be the first person to strip down the battery. I am not positive but it may put your Haze at risk of damage. You may want to chat with Scott about that. The plastic lining on the battery contains a controlling chip of some sort I believe. This is why they dont recommend using non OEM batteries.
 
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UnshavenFish

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The plastic around the battery is just to hold everything together, the PCB on the bottom and the connecting wire running up the side joining to the + end, the battery will still work but is more easily damaged without the wrap, everything is soldered on so its not just going to fall apart by itself (mine took quite a bit of force to remove without heat when I dismantled mine :mental:, don't try this) the fragile part is the connecting wire running up the side.

They can be re-wrapped (aslong as they stay thin enough to fit the haze)

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/tutorial-re-wrapping-a-battery.485582/

The haze cells are a little different to the ones used in the link as the haze cell has its original wrap underneath then the PCB and connections are added then wrapped again, so it's only the outside wrap you have removed so IMO less chance of shorts happening compared with other cells in different devices but still not no chance.

can I use my battery charger for different batteries?

Which ones? If they charge to 4.20v and fit then most likely, depends what they are and if they are genuine.
 

mikeben

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brass brush, takes off all the gunk without scratching the steel:) the mp is never a problem getting out as long as you have the tweezers it comes with. I let it heat up to level 3 then jack the mp out with the reverse end of the tweezers. Once its hot it comes out like butter. Those who are having taste issues need to stop putting weed in the cans. Imho, too much metal going on in there. Use the conduction screens for more air flow. My OG davinci has cans with silicone lids and filling those with weed yielded the same results but packing the chamber and using the cans as a tamper made the taste go way further.:)
Yeah I never use the can for dry herb really. It's a min more cleaning, but the flavor on the conduction screen is just hard to beat. Then again for hash, kief, dabbing, etc the can's are terrific.
 

ichibaneye

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Ok gang I FINALLY got time to clean my Haze V3 after 2 months of heavy use (60 days x 4 chambers per day = 240 cycles, through glass on level 3 and 4) I use the conduction screens exclusively. It only took about 20 mins for a top notch cleaning and I'm happy to say it is like brand new again! :nod: Check it out... :tup:
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I'm going to suggest you clean the Haze more often. Here are a few reasons as to why.

Flavor degradation: If you are using different strains and concentrates during that 2 month period you are killing the chance to get the most flavor from the different products you load.

Optimal operation: I know for a fact my Haze's are not giving me peak performance when I have not cleaned them for a bit. This is just because of the loss of optimal air flow rates over time. Not to mention also the fact that the clean pure vapor from one product has now been mucked up with all the other junk that lines the AP.

Sticky MP: I know this can contribute to the O ring being dislodged from its seat. Also the extra resin gets all over the MP thus making for more cleaning and sticky finger sessions. Not to mention every now and again people asking you "what's that smell" because you are not around iso to get your digits all clean.

Compared to many other portables the Haze is one of the few out of many vaporizer to deliver super flavorful draws. Maybe it's just me here but why would anyone want to not get the best ALL around experience from their sessions. Ie: Taste, draw, extraction and delivery.

After that cleaning I sure hope you reclaimed some of that golden/amber honey. You should have had many globs. It's so tasty and goes a long way when masking a Haze herb n oil can sandwich.

Great job on cleaning your Haze it looks pristine. Thank you for posting some pictures also. Fyi: I'm just putting my thoughts/Haze experience out here. I'm not here to oppress thee. Enjoy and cheers!:cheers:
 
Hello! A couple of days ago I noticed the haze v.3 has been released. Has anyone tried packing it with herbs other than mj/oil (like tea, lavender, damiana, ect.) Wanting to know how the experience was (clouds/vapor, taste)? Tried getting clouds out of the mighty, and it didn't really work to well, taste was good until I cranked it up to try and pull some vapor, which was practically nothing. so I'm looking for something else, or another herb that makes lots of vapor.
 
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