The Extreme Vaporizer aka V-Tower Extreme

[marcuss]

I notice that when i leave the full bowl on the heater for a while, thicker vapor gets out in both delivery method!!
Half bowl is the right amount for me to let the cyclone shake my plant!!
Too much is a waste!!!

Stickstones: remember that if you want to see vapor in the tube you need a light spot!
It's very hard to see vapor in a low light place

 

[Clear_Dome]

I notice that when i leave the full bowl on the heater for a while, thicker vapor gets out in both delivery method!!
Half bowl is the right amount for me to let the cyclone shake my plant!!
Too much is a waste!!!

Stickstones: remember that if you want to see vapor in the tube you need a light spot!
It's very hard to see vapor in a low light place

Hi Marcuss,
Do you notice any lost of taste when you let the full bowl un the heater for a while ? ..how work the cyclone bowl ? it is realy hard to see on the picture on arizer.com. why it is call cyclone ?

 

[Clear_Dome]

for the people who are wating for the battery pack it will be $69.00 will and be available April 1st acording to steve from Arizer.com yeahhh

 

[stickstones]

I notice that when i leave the full bowl on the heater for a while, thicker vapor gets out in both delivery method!!
Half bowl is the right amount for me to let the cyclone shake my plant!!
Too much is a waste!!!

Stickstones: remember that if you want to see vapor in the tube you need a light spot!
It's very hard to see vapor in a low light place

Yes, I have found lighting is important. I haven't gotten great lighting to check ou the vapor in the tube yet, but I did see the benefit when looking at my glass. I thought mine was still clear, but when I took it with me on a trip with better lighting I could see that it is quite yellow!

 

[evey]

As I have gained more experience I have also found that leaving the bowl on for awhile helps a lot. I've been using the bag again, and if I let the bowl sit on there for 15 minutes and then fill the bag it is way thicker.

 

[vaporPRO]

Wow Ive been hitting the straight draw for like five minutes so now Im so messesd up haha. I was able to hit it longer than usual becauase I bought my first grinder today. I would always break it up with scissors or by hand, but grinding it makes such a difference. I used like .1 of some real bomb stuff, ground it up to a think dust (with the new grinder) and cooked it at 670 F with the straight draw. It went for like an entire southpark epipsode, so I must have gotten like 25 hits of visible vapor, maybe more.
Its cool how much more efficient vaporizing is to smoking. I smoked a half eighth blunt with two other people the other day, and got really ripped, but I felt like I would have been way more messed up if I used that half eighter in the extreme. You just take so many think hits of vapor (95% THC) that I get to a different level than with smoking.

 

[Clear_Dome]

haha stop with all your good post on the EXTREM LOL I'M JALOUS LOL the paymant as been clear yesterday at 9pm ...so it will be ship 2d I wish ...just cant wait to get it and rip a bowl

 

[vaporPRO]

how do you hook up the extreme to a water pipe/bong? Does it make a big difference in the hit? I would think that if you filled up the bong with ice water, maybe it would cool the vapor and further condense it, giving you a more concentrated hit. I have no idea though, ive never tried it before. To anyone that has, what's it like?

 

[Clear_Dome]

I always use realy cold water (sometime wuth ice) in my bong when I vaporize ,and this is not to filtred the vapor but to make it cooler .I agree with you vaporpro the way you link both is not really important (exept to get a air tight pipe) but there is maybe a motnh ago, I was vaporizing with a normal glass bong (no difuser on the downstem) and this thing make a difference ...of coarse not a big awesome difference but with the difuser the vapor is realy cool down and this way you can take bigger puff ...but dont all go buy one of these difuser ...just use it if you have one ,cause the difference is not big

 

[Rockwise]

Using ice through a glass bong in conjunction with the Extreme definitely has a good effect, cooling your vapor and allowing you to take monster hits. I personally use a GEAR glass on glass bong,for my vapor hits with the whip. With a bit of water in the bong and a nice diffuser down-stem, and ice mounted on an ice-pinch in the neck of the bong, the flavors and aromas (not to mention highs) that are achievable, allow anyone that gets nice varieties of chronic to quickly become a true connoisseur. Get to know your herbs people! Owning the proper devices is one thing, smoking or vaping shitty commercially mass produced over fertilized, improperly flushed chronic is bad for your health no matter how it is consumed! If you are lucky enough to have the option, go organic!

Breathe easy~

 

[Rockwise]

I notice that when i leave the full bowl on the heater for a while, thicker vapor gets out in both delivery method!!
Half bowl is the right amount for me to let the cyclone shake my plant!!
Too much is a waste!!!

The best set-up to have with a good vaporizer is a hand grinder, such as SweetLeaf hand grinders, and a wood storage box with a silk screen. Allow any moist nugs to dry in the box, then with your hand grinder, grind up the herbs over the silk screen. The result is your kind bud nicely busted up to allow for cyclone action in the bowl of the Extreme. and a layer of kif (resin glands) that accumulates very quickly for any moderate to chronic personality. By separating these beautiful trichomes, you preserve a very potent part of the herb, while still reaching sky high with your flavourful herbs in the Extreme. This gives you free range to press the kif into hash bricks, or use it (VERY EFFICIENTLY) in cooking oil or butter for your favourite recipies, or just carry a small jar of it around for really quick and potent pick-me ups in your favourite portable pipe!

That being said, the stickier the kind bud is, like lets say a Kush or Great White Shark, the better it is to let your packed bowl warm on the heater for a couple minutes. As it warms, the resin glands become gooey and ready to explode as vapor when you start pulling. When you warm any bowl, make sure you have the elbow connector on top, you dont want your herbs feeling an air flow until its flowing into your lungs! Hashish, depending on its consistency, works very well in the Extreme also~ just be patient and experiment with pre-warming the bowls for tasty thick hash vapor hitss

 

[Clear_Dome]

Rock wise : Realy nice constructive post !! it's nice to see how the people here now what they talk about ...damn people in my neiborhood just dont know what 's a vaporizer LOL

Ps : nice to know that i'm not along with a Gear bong too

 

[vtac]

how do you hook up the extreme to a water pipe/bong? Does it make a big difference in the hit? I would think that if you filled up the bong with ice water, maybe it would cool the vapor and further condense it, giving you a more concentrated hit. I have no idea though, ive never tried it before. To anyone that has, what's it like?

Depending on your bong you might be able to use one of the methods in this thread. Also, Rockwise mentioned that with the Extreme you can push a rubber O ring over the mouthpiece till it meets the tubing. Since the mouthpiece is glass you can just use that as a down stem, pretty cool feature.

Personally I always vape though water. Vapor through a whip is still warm from the heater and can also be a bit dry. For people with sensitive lungs, even plain warm dry air can be an irritant.

Forcing the vapor through cold water cools it down as well as adding some moisture. The result is a smoother hit. Everything else is pretty much the same imo.

 

[vtac]

If you are lucky enough to have the option, go organic!

A good suggestion all around!

 

[SuperFire]

I just copped an Extreme Vaporizer, and I must say, its very efficient and healthy but I wouldn't say its extraordinary. I don't get as blown as I do from a blunt.

 

[vtac]

How much are you vaping compared to smoking?

Play around with it a bit, you'll see the light.

Maybe you're just missing all that smoke inhalation.

 

[marcuss]

Smoke is smoke.... you get intoxicated by lots of bad elements like co2 benzene and more!
If you really like pure thc you'll prefer vapor.....otherwise light up your blunt and get extraordinary poisons!

 

[Clear_Dome]

I just copped an Extreme Vaporizer, and I must say, its very efficient and healthy but I wouldn't say its extraordinary. I don't get as blown as I do from a blunt.

it's probably because you dont take the same qqt of herb in the vap ,because me the vap blown me a lot more than a blunt/bong/all LOL

 

[marcuss]

Anyway i hope that you put a nice organic homemade plant in your blunt........that's very important!

 

[stickstones]

Allright marcuss...one more word about your homegrown stuff and I'm gonna make you send me some! I tried to get something growing last year, but in the States it proved too risky. I would love to do what you are doing!

 

[Mr Tambourine Man]

Hi all! This thread has proven extremely useful to me, the Extreme sounds like a real nice product and I'm starting to consider ordering one. However, I do have one concern that maybe someone more experienced may be able to help me with, or at least alleviate my concern.
Its been said that the Extreme vaporizes well in the 240C - 250C range. Which is just fine, but if I'm not mistaken, the extreme tops out at 250C. That provides no extra ability for those seldom but possibly occasional times when you want to vape at temperatures higher than you normally would. Seeing as how optimal vape temps vary from strain to strain, its not impossible that you may get a batch that works better at something a little higher than 250C. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Also, could someone who owns the extreme tell me what it says on their power adapter "box", specifically output Volts / Amps / Watts? I'm interested in using the the Extreme in environments with less than ideal electrical capabilities, specifically my car, and I'm curious as to how it would function there. Thanks!

 

[stickstones]

The temp setting does indeed top out at 350C. This is the temp of the heating element. The owner has said the air temp going over the herbs is typically 100C lower. I have not yet had any problems with needing to go higher using four different strains so far.

Power supply says:
Input: 100-240V-1.5A 50-60Hz
Output: DC 19V---3.0A max

 

[vtac]

Its been said that the Extreme vaporizes well in the 240C - 250C range. Which is just fine, but if I'm not mistaken, the extreme tops out at 250C. That provides no extra ability for those seldom but possibly occasional times when you want to vape at temperatures higher than you normally would. Seeing as how optimal vape temps vary from strain to strain, its not impossible that you may get a batch that works better at something a little higher than 250C. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Hey! And good questions.

So you have found different temperatures optimal for different strains? I've always used the same (quite low) temperature setting on my SSV and have had no trouble vaporizing any of the, say, 50 varieties I've thrown at it. I've kind of learned to make adjustments via draw speed, but don't even really think about it anymore.

It was an interesting decision to limit the temperature on the Extreme. Most other vaporizers allow you to set temps that will scorch and burn your herb. Personally I would say that the pros of limiting it outweigh the cons.

Considering almost everyone (here at least) who is big into vaporizing is also concerned about their respiratory health, "vaporizing" at a temp so high which also produces some smoke would likely seem taboo and counterproductive. Desirable compounds may vaporize at different temps, but, and correct me if I'm wrong, most fibrous organic plant matter will burn at around the same temp (mostly higher than the main compounds we want, this is the idea behind vaporization after all).

Limiting the temp slightly before combustion prevents inexperienced users from inadvertently burning their herb, and, assuming the temperature is limited correctly, doesn't really hinder the device in what it's designed to do.

On the other hand, some people may want a very high temp smoky-"vapor", or just hate the idea of being limited. Maybe there is some secret unlock on the Extreme, who knows. I'm sure Rockwise could shed some light on the thinking behind this decision, as he was a beta tester for the Extreme and seems to know his stuff.

Sorry for the long post, morning vapor will do that sometimes.

 

[vtac]

Also, could someone who owns the extreme tell me what it says on their power adapter "box", specifically output Volts / Amps / Watts? I'm interested in using the the Extreme in environments with less than ideal electrical capabilities, specifically my car, and I'm curious as to how it would function there. Thanks!

This is a very good question, I think I'll make a new thread for it! > Vaporizers Off the Grid

 

[Clear_Dome]

welcome here Mr Tambourine Man enjoy