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vape4health

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The w9 site has 6v battery configuration displayed too.

So the tops sold with the double top will work at 6v? Do they still have dead zones on the core or am I'm confused. Maybe it don't matter but I can't be the only one that is curious.
 
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vape4health

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The double tops work just fine and are a viable backup for my single-top should it ever pop (though the nibbler would be off-center and start to look wonky). I just like complaining ;)
Sorry you took that wrong. I only have a new new :) top. My kit come with only a single head, I'm thinking about getting a full backup maybe one with a double top. I'm late to the game and playing catch up on all the versions.
 
Can someone please help me, I got the hammer and it seems that the rod wont get hot enough due to the fact that it leaves a large pool of oil, i got the battery's from w9tech and i made sure they were fully charged. Thanks
 
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masaki

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Can someone please help me, I got the hammer and it seems that the rod wont get hot enough due to the fact that it leaves a large pool of oil, i got the battery's from w9tech and i made sure they were fully charged. Thanks
What batteries are you using?
 
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ataxian

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Possible to know the brand? and chemistry?
I only use my W9 Tech AW 18350 IMR x 2 with my powerful devastating accessories!

I'm vexed!

I quit making my own SHATTER due to all the criticizers from the peanut gallery!

CO2 oil gives me a worse headache than PURE GOLD even?

The SHATTER I make doesn't give me a headache and taste better!

"WTF" I'm making my own SHATTER for my W9 TECH GEAR for now on!

I bought a new Hot Plate and Vacuum Chamber so my SHATTER will no doubt be TOP SHELF!

2014 a new level!
Higher! (pun intended)
Medically speaking of course!
I tend to disagree that there's, "nothing to fix". The chart that comes with the persei advertises that it can run at 6 volts. However, it does not. I as well would like to run my core at 6 volts and have it work with my tops. This currently is not the case. Im not trying to complain, but I have to agree with the others in here saying that the tops not working as advertised is a bit off ptting. Still wont keep me from spending more money or your awesome stuff though!
I use 2 x 3.0v = 6.0v batteries all the time?
What am I doing wrong?
 
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zeek01

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I tend to disagree that there's, "nothing to fix". The chart that comes with the persei advertises that it can run at 6 volts. However, it does not. I as well would like to run my core at 6 volts and have it work with my tops. This currently is not the case. Im not trying to complain, but I have to agree with the others in here saying that the tops not working as advertised is a bit off ptting. Still wont keep me from spending more money or your awesome stuff though!
 

zeek01

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http://www.w9tech.com/aw-imr-18350-3-7v/ i use these batterys.
The hammer didnt come with instructions, i just guessed you take the metal piece off and press the button wait 45 seconds till the rod hot and your ready. Did i miss a step?

Youre pretty close. However, I would let the rod heat up a bit longer. How are you using it for dabs? Are you putting ur dab on the nail and then touching the rod to the dab?
 
zeek01,
I wait about a minute flat on a timer and then i already have preloaded dabs on the TI nail that is quite petite and i touch the hot rod to the nail where it makes minor vapor melts the dab and leaves a pool behind.
 
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I wait about a minute flat on a timer and then i already have preloaded dabs on the TI nail that is quite petite and i touch the hot rod to the nail where it makes minor vapor melts the dab and leaves a pool behind.

yeah if you try to heat the nail, it is slow going and you can get a nasty burny taste. Just touch the ceramic to the concentrates. After it is all melted down, drag the ceramic through the puddle or tap it up and down rather than trying to heat that chunk of titanium. My method gets most but not all of the oil evaporated cleanly without burnt taste.
 
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TommydCat

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Sorry you took that wrong. I only have a new new :) top. My kit come with only a single head, I'm thinking about getting a full backup maybe one with a double top. I'm late to the game and playing catch up on all the versions.
I don't know of any double tops made with the new circuitry that discriminates that voltage range - and a single top that comes in the same kit most likely has an older single top as well. Maybe G could answer if any kits went out with a double top and the newer single tops. (Quickest way to tell I know is look and see if the "Persei" logo is on the single top itself rather than just the tube and if the number starts with an R (revised?). Correct me if there exceptions I don't know about.)

I think we should clear any confusion before people start mopping up double-top kits on ebay ;)

The alternative I'm looking at is just using 2.4s and 1.5s... The 1.5s with a voltage bump are near the 5.0s at 7.2v and the 2.4s are as well around 5v using the core. Maybe reserve the higher voltages for the newer srsbsns toys instead of the carts from now on? :D
 
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Vapoholic420

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I tend to disagree that there's, "nothing to fix". The chart that comes with the persei advertises that it can run at 6 volts. However, it does not. I as well would like to run my core at 6 volts and have it work with my tops. This currently is not the case. Im not trying to complain, but I have to agree with the others in here saying that the tops not working as advertised is a bit off ptting. Still wont keep me from spending more money or your awesome stuff though!
I agree with you! I'm not trying to complain either but the main reason I bought the Core was to run the white rod on the Herc at around 6 volts, bcuz it was said that we can use the Core at "EVERY" voltage from 3.0v-8.4v, and now I can't unless I get the new mechanical tops! To me, that seems like a fix!! That's why I asked G if the Core owners would be upgraded with the new top for free, bcuz they should have came with it then imo, or it should have been stated that they can't be used at certain voltages bcuz the tops have limitations!! Especially, since I thought I was getting a pre-order DEAL on the Core too and now it's still only $99 compared to the $130 price tag that was on it during the pre-order when I bought it. That made me jump on it too and now I realize it wasn't even much of a deal anyway!! Idk, whatever. But I own almost everything they put out, so I'm definitely a big supporter of their products, but I think this should be addressed as a FIX imo.
 

OF

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I think we should clear any confusion before people start moping up double-top kits on ebay ;)

The alternative I'm looking at is just using 2.4s and 1.5s... The 1.5s with a voltage bump are near the 5.0s at 7.2v and the 2.4s are as well around 5v using the core. Maybe reserve the higher voltages for the newer srsbsns toys instead of the carts from now on? :D

I agree it's something we should understand.

While the suggested 'work around' might cover some cases (might even cover all cases an individual might currently be interested in), it does not do so for all I think. For sure, this used to be a feature of Persei. An ability promoted in advertising and used by some of us. I personally never liked 7.4 Volts as the power was higher than I wanted and drops quickly. RCR123As fix this, both aspects. Or did.

Bottom line is it's a feature that has been eliminated in the 'improved' replacement. This is the first we've heard of it I think all the documentation out that is now no longer accurate should be corrected or removed, as of right now it's advertising features that no longer exist.

I see this is a problem created in the process of addressing other issues. I too agree, sny change to rectify it should rightly be called a "fix" as well. FWIW.

Regards and Merry Christmas to all.

OF
 

kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
I guess it's a good thing I have an Iris. For those who may have missed it, G mentioned that of you turn the Core to full power, you can use an Iris top to dial into the 5.4v to 6.3v range without a problem. Still, looking forward to the eventual "full throttle" tops.

@kindbeats Now only if I could stop the blinking if I move to fast with it at those voltages! To me, I think the new Core tops should have been made first and released WITH the Cores, even if it costed a few bucks more. Now I can't wait for the new Core tops!! Please get em out asap G!! :-)

@Vapoholic420 What do you mean by blinking? Is there a connection problem or something of that nature?
 

bellas

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I agree the Core when matched with the Bender is Heaven. I have started using my Bender/Core as my home go to device. Just LOVE the Taste. I am still playing with my perfect temp. Currently on 6.7 volts. I thought 7.5 v gave a close to burn taste. I wonder what other Core/Bender folks are heating at?
Have to admit I was surprised when I couldn't get the Core to heat at 6 v. I jumped on the Core at $99 thinking it would turn my Bender into a desktop unit while saving myself some money, only to find out I still have to buy more pieces to have a complete Core setup. AAAAAGH.
I have experienced the blinking 3 lights as well.
@ the Scientific
I bought the Core and a Hammer top at the same time so I could have a second Persei that would be my home unit. I am wondering if I could get the slip on spacer piece that goes between the top and bottom? I know I'm being anal but it drives me crazy to see the gap in the middle of my unit. I was surprised the piece didn't come with the Core. Thanks
 

OF

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I guess it's a good thing I have an Iris. For those who may have missed it, G mentioned that of you turn the Core to full power, you can use an Iris top to dial into the 5.4v to 6.3v range without a problem.

That will be true once the Iris is fixed.....and available. I don't use mine since it's blown 3 2.4 Ohm Omicron carts (two basically 'brand new') by suddenly (and for no apparent reason) going to 'full blast'. I'm confident W9 will make good on D9's product eventually, but for now I don't consider Iris a dependable product......and only 100 of us even have that option, new buyers (today) are SOL.

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Vapoholic420

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@kindbeats,
Yea, the Iris is one of the W9 Tech items that I DON'T own, unfortunately! Lol. And I am starting to think that I might have a faulty Core bcuz it's blinking constantly, but when I put batteries in it is fine!! So I know it's definitely not the tops. Plus I just got a brand new Hammer top in the mail yesterday and it does it with that too! So it's definitely gotta be the Core! Does yours blink alot when ur using the Core??

@THC SCIENTIFIC,
Hey G,
Do u think something is wrong with my core? I recently put my black heating rod back in it and turned it to 4v, bcuz I can't run the white rod at the voltages I want to and it blinks like crazy at the lowest voltages that I can run the white rod at, and it still blinks alot even with the black rod at 4 volts!! Sometimes I'll hold the button and I check to make sure it's glowing blue so I know it's on, bcuz all my tops also have that issue where sometimes they don't turn on the first time or two that I press the button so I'm always watching for the light, but by the time I get it to my mouth it'll blink and turn off just from the motion of bringing it to my mouth!! And I'm not moving that quick, especially with the Nibbler Xl attached to it! It's stressing me out! I know the center post on the Core is making contact with the center post on the top too so I don't understand why it would blink. Please let me know what ya think. Thanks in advance.
 
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kindbeats

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@kindbeats,
Yea, the Iris is one of the W9 Tech items that I DON'T own, unfortunately! Lol. And I am starting to think that I might have a faulty Core bcuz it's blinking constantly, but when I put batteries in it is fine!! So I know it's definitely not the tops. Plus I just got a brand new Hammer top in the mail yesterday and it does it with that too! So it's definitely gotta be the Core! Does yours blink alot when ur using the Core?

I'm afraid I don't own a Core yet. This blinking thing that you're talking about has me holding off on pulling the trigger. Does the Persei lose power when it blinks? It sounds like the same thing that happens when batteries move around in the Persei.

That will be true once the Iris is fixed.....and available. I don't use mine since it's blown 3 2.4 Ohm Omicron carts (two basically 'brand new') by suddenly (and for no apparent reason) going to 'full blast'. I'm confident W9 will make good on D9's product eventually, but for now I don't consider Iris a dependable product......and only 100 of us even have that option, new buyers (today) are SOL.

OF


I should have clarified that I was addressing those who own an Iris. As for the full blast problem (if you recall, I had the same thing happen with one of my carts), it appears to only happen when I turn off my Iris. Hence, I always take my SR-71 off of the Iris before powering down. Do you find it to be the same situation as your's?
 

OF

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I should have clarified that I was addressing those who own an Iris. As for the full blast problem (if you recall, I had the same thing happen with one of my carts), it appears to only happen when I turn off my Iris. Hence, I always take my SR-71 off of the Iris before powering down. Do you find it to be the same situation as your's?

I recall others had the same problem, it's something in the design it seems, not a defect in my (or anyone else's) unit. G said as much IIRC, said we'd get our units replaced with corrected versions when they happen.

No, IIRC mine blew carts in normal use. I think I recall one going off in my hand as I held it after the hit? Or maybe I was taking a normal hit.....

In any event, nothing I wanted to count on. I have more reliable alternatives for now.

Perhaps Iris represents an alternative for a few (provided they have one that's never blown a cart except under the conditions you outline and they're careful to always unscrew the load first?). I think the 'fix' will involve a new top without this limit (perhaps only for the core?), but right now the gear you get from W9 does not do what it's advertised to do???

Changing the advertising and documentation to reflect that seems the first step to me.

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masaki

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All this talk about The core is bumming me out and holding me back from pulling the trigger :( I even ordered a hammer top to match with it..
 

mystikalghost

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A question on the KISS cart. Is it okay to hold it upside down while its on to try and get the wax on the cup? I have tried a few times with a flick of the wrist at the end for it to hit the coil.
 
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