Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

[deadseasquirrel]

It is really exciting to see all you with new versions find satisfaction in this new Ascent. I'm one of the few that got a great functioning first batch one and I've been very pleased. It remains my wife's only vape that she uses every night (and sometimes during the day if a migraine comes along).

I've messed with several spacers to keep the bud at the bottom-- I have the glass flowers, a glass bead, organic cotton, the oil jar (without holes). The glass flowers do what they're supposed to do and keep the bud at the bottom, but the glass screen still gets messy and pieces of bud can still come up the chamber. She's not a fan of that. Same with the glass bead. The oil jar worked perfect, but getting it back out when it gets all sticky was very difficult after loading in .1 or even less.

The best thing I've found is organic cotton. 1 cotton ball turns into 4 or 5 thin pieces of cotton and that works perfect. It is easy to remove with the jar remover tool which is attached to the vape, and it keeps the glass stem screen perfectly clean. I do an ISO soak every 2 weeks or so.

I'd be willing to entertain another type of spacer (maybe that sombrero) as long as it is: easy to load and transport, easy to remove, keeps the glass stem screen clean, and holds the bud at the bottom. Cotton fulfills all these, but it isn't glass, so I would gladly exchange cotton for a glass solution that performs just as good.

I *still* haven't found a need to send my first batch version back for replacement.

 

[Smknbud]

I *still* haven't found a need to send my first batch version back for replacement.

I sent mine back for mostly cosmetic issues, but I encourage you to swap it out because the other improvements, battery life, tighter seal, blemish free OLED display, better temp accuracy etc. make the swap completely worthwhile.

Do it while the exchange window remains open.

 

[Shrike]

Does yours' not have the mar on the screen or batteries that discharge to empty after 4-5 days? I thought all of the v.1 versions at least did that. Mine was pretty much perfect (other than those 2 problems) too, but I sent mine back for the replacement 1.2 and it is miles better than the original.

It heats up faster...I get better clouds at lower temps (probably because of the tighter seals) and the battery lasts a LOT longer now. Battery meter still showed full even after 5 days of not using it.

You might want to think of trading it in, deadseasquirrel, while they will still allow it for free.

Edit::There you go Squirrel...2 recommendations for trading up...

 

[Globbs]

Make it three. My first ascent worked well, but decided to to get the replacement because of cosmetics too. My v2 is a beast and feels like a completely different vape.

 

[Razor]

The battery problem I had was with the v2. Waiting for the replacement...I miss it so much

 

[nigel]

I am sure its in here somewhere but 135 pages of info is a bit of overload to take in all at once.

Well.... more like 366 pages if you include the Pre-sale thread, the shipping thread, and this thread. (But ignoring things like the Haiku thread or the "should I buy X or Y vape" threads.)

Is there a water tool that would work for both the ascent, as well as for the volcano W/easy valve that I could use on both?

I don't have a specific recommendation, maybe because there are tons of tools you can use. You can get either a 14mm or 18mm adapter, so you can use it with just about any tool you want. (Also there are "U" versions of the adapter that are designed to keep the unit upright when one is using oil.)

So, it's really a matter of personal taste. (Want a smaller hand-held? Want a table top with a large capacity? Etc.)

I *still* haven't found a need to send my first batch version back for replacement.

I see others have replied to this, but I'll throw my hat in this ring. I think the performance is better.

I thought all of the v.1 versions at least did that.

While the battery-drain was a design issue, and thus global, the screen mar was an assembly issue and NOT global (although quite common but by all means not universal).

[EDIT: I'll correct myself here. There were *two* screen issues (the cloudy film or the scratches), but both were assembly issues and not universal, albeit common.)]

The battery problem I had was with the v2.

"The battery problem" that shrike is referencing is the battery draining slowly, not a dead battery (or one that refuses to charge). Two different things. One was global (design) the other isolated event (faulty part).

 

[OF]

[EDIT: I'll correct myself here. There were *two* screen issues (the cloudy film or the scratches), but both were assembly issues and not universal, albeit common.)]

Make that three. At least two of us reported loose lenses......I found it on your unit? One V1, one V2 I think? Sounds like this (IMO minor) issue may still be there?

OF

 

[lwien]

Ok, I need some advice here. I got a tracking number on my "Haiku" Ascent and lo and behold, it's being delivered today. Praise to the Cannabis God:

Ok, enough of the funny green guy...........here is my dilemma.

The new Ascent should be in my hands this afternoon. I REALLY want to like it. I would LOVE not to be tethered to an AC cord, but here's the deal. I use very small amounts of bud. When I had my PD, I would load up a PD stems worth (0.025gr) and it would last me a one and half days. 2 stems (.05gr) would last me three days.

Now I have my LSV and I'm using more bud, but not that much more. With the LSV, .05gr (2 PD stems worth) now lasts me two days rather than three. I don't mind this loss of efficiency with the LSV due to the better taste as well as a high that hits me a lot quicker due to the more voluminous vapor clouds.

However, I am not willing to lose any more efficiency with the Ascent. I am a veteran living on a fixed income and I really can't afford for my MJ bills to go up.........not even a little.

So here's the deal. After following this thread quite closely, I understand that tamping down the load rather firmly is necessary, ESPECIALLY with small loads. I plan on loading the Ascent up with the same amount that I use in my LSV (which is double what I used in my PD), which is approximately .05gr. I will firmly tamp that down and give it a shot. Do I really need to get some small glass flower screens? I can if need be. Any other suggestions for using this very small amount?

I will give this a shot tonight and if I can get .05gr to last me 2 days like I can with my LSV, I'm going to be a happy camper. If anyone who has an Ascent has any further thoughts on this, please let me know, especially if you think that there is no way that the Ascent is going to be able to accomplish this no matter what I do.

Thoughts???

 

[RD]

The inside of my stem needed a cleaning so I put it in a small plastic tube with iso & salt, put the lid on, gave a few shakes, and pulverized the bowl end of the stem. Spare installed and replacement put on order.

Much more delicate then I thought. Unable to use as spacer. SOAK don't SHAKE.

 

[ttocs]

maybe you can put it under oil cans?

 

[nigel]

Do I really need to get some small glass flower screens? I can if need be. Any other suggestions for using this very small amount?

Welcome to this thread. You might want to take a few minutes and read through the thread.


I had answered you the other day, but the flowers really do seem to help with efficiency. Does one *need* them? No. Do YOU *need* them? I'm guessing "yes."

Try it with the oil can in place if you don't have the flowers. I felt that helped, but feel the flowers are better.

and pulverized the bowl end of the stem. Spare installed and replacement put on order.

I was using a spare stem to tamp down product, and had an edge of the screen crumble (NOT shatter, but crumble). I'm not sure what I was doing wrong, but never did it again.

That glass is perfectly safe in its silicone home, but fragile outside of it.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Clean it with some cotton and vape it!

 

[lwien]

Welcome to this thread. You might want to take a few minutes and read through the thread.


I had answered you the other day, but the flowers really do seem to help with efficiency. Does one *need* them? No. Do YOU *need* them? I'm guessing "yes."

Try it with the oil can in place if you don't have the flowers. I felt that helped, but feel the flowers are better.

Maybe I need to word this a bit different.

I know the flowers will help. as will the oil can, but I guess I'm asking if this vape can be something that it is not, that is, a vape that can efficiently vape small amounts like what I stated above, or is it a vape that, at it's core, is designed for heavier usage and that while it can be jury-rigged to work with smaller amounts, it really is not designed to do so and therefore will not do so effectively.

I guess the same thing could be said for the LSV in that it too is not really designed for small amounts, but being that it is purely convection, I can load up twice the amount that I would normally vape in an evening and save the rest for the next evening being that I can immediately take the bud away from any heat source between hits, which is not possible with the Ascent, eh?

I realize that this is all kind of a re-hash of what has already been discussed but I really don't want to use a brand new vape that won't have a chance in hell of doing what I require it to do. I'll give it a shot though if it's possible.

 

[RD]

Iwien Your comment, "I really can't afford for my MJ bills to go up.........not even a little." Also retired and on fixed income, but Hawaii is med state & I grow my own so supply is no problem. Sure you don't have decimal point in the wrong place. I just weighted out 0.05 and can't imagine that lasting two days in any machine, unless it wasn't turned on. Not trying to be a smart ass, just trying to answer your question and IMO I don't think the Ascent is capable of what you are asking. Convection you can make last and come back to my elbow hit in EQ are perfect example. Conduction bakes like an oven and for me is use it or lose it. Just not much to come back to. Still learning a lot and this is just my opinion.

Deadsea Like the idea of cotton keeping stem clean. Currently using jar w/ hole and larger hole. Like the way it sandwiches the herb between two hot plates as the walls of the jar really transfer heat to the bottom. (Hoping DV comes up w/ something like a mod jar w/ holes) Think I will now try loading the jar w/ cotton filter and hopefully end up with the benefits of both.

Clean it with some cotton and vape it! Does that work?

Experimenting is so much fun.

 

[lwien]

Iwien Your comment, "I really can't afford for my MJ bills to go up.........not even a little." Also retired and on fixed income, but Hawaii is med state & I grow my own so supply is no problem. Sure you don't have decimal point in the wrong place. I just weighted out 0.05 and can't imagine that lasting two days in any machine, unless it wasn't turned on. Not trying to be a smart ass, just trying to answer your question and IMO I don't think the Ascent is capable of what you are asking.

The decimal point is DEFINITELY in the right place. Has been for over 5 years. When I had my PD, I vaped every single night and a gram would last me a month and half. I'm a fucking legend around here. lol......

 

[RD]

The decimal point is DEFINITELY in the right place. Has been for over 5 years. When I had my PD, I vaped every single night and a gram would last me a month and half. I'm a fucking legend around here. lol......

What is a PD? And why don't you still have it?

 

[jivebuggered]

Maybe I need to word this a bit different.

I know the flowers will help. as will the oil can, but I guess I'm asking if this vape can be something that it is not, that is, a vape that can efficiently vape small amounts like what I stated above, or is it a vape that, at it's core, is designed for heavier usage and that while it can be jury-rigged to work with smaller amounts, it really is not designed to do so and therefore will not do so effectively.

I guess the same thing could be said for the LSV in that it too is not really designed for small amounts, but being that it is purely convection, I can load up twice the amount that I would normally vape in an evening and save the rest for the next evening being that I can immediately take the bud away from any heat source between hits, which is not possible with the Ascent, eh?

I realize that this is all kind of a re-hash of what has already been discussed but I really don't want to use a brand new vape that won't have a chance in hell of doing what I require it to do. I'll give it a shot though if it's possible.

I think for economy Solo would have to be number one, DVA second (in my opinion)

 

[poonman]

The decimal point is DEFINITELY in the right place. Has been for over 5 years. When I had my PD, I vaped every single night and a gram would last me a month and half. I'm a fucking legend around here. lol......

Fuck You iwien ,
oops wrong thread ...

It is legendary that you can maintain your tolerance level for so long .

 

[lwien]

What is a PD? And why don't you still have it?

Purple Days. The reason that I gave it up was because I was willing to give up a bit of efficiency for better taste as well as something that was harder hitting. I gave up a little efficiency, but not a lot so it was worth it.

Fuck You iwien ,
oops wrong thread ...

It is legendary that you can maintain your tolerance level for so long .

With the LSV, my tolerance went up a bit, but not a lot. If I vape every other day instead of every day, my tolerance goes right back down to what it was with the PD.

 

[nigel]

Maybe I need to word this a bit different.

...is designed for heavier usage and that while it can be jury-rigged to work with smaller amounts, it really is not designed to do so and therefore will not do so effectively.

Sorry I didn't understand your question correctly.

At least in older versions, I think the latter case is true. Dreamerr had a v1.0 that she felt was not as efficient as she would like, and although she is not as sensitive to efficiency as you, it is still a priority for her. (Okay, efficiency is a priority for most everyone, but we all have different tolerances for what is "efficient".) She, for the purposes of testing, refused to use any hacks or mods.

I regularly use a "pinch" or two... mostly two. (I've been measuring and a pinch is ~0.07g) This is more than fine, but I have never tried it without glass flowers in the v1.1. I guess I could do a test run for you today.

save the rest for the next evening being that I can immediately take the bud away from any heat source between hits, which is not possible with the Ascent, eh?

You can do this here too. Keep in mind OF's temp test that showed flooding the oven with room temp air dropped the temp significantly.

What I do, when I want to stop a bowl, is hit the power button, then do a few puffs to evacuate the vaporpath of anything left in it, and also to cool down the product. A full breath (resting, adult male) is about 4L. That's a LOT of room temp air you are pulling through there. It's slamming on the thermal brakes. (okay, granted, some larger retention in the ceramics, but you've dropped that too below volatility points.) I find that very effective when I restart up the same bowl later.

BTW: what's your temp?


I'd say try out a few. Be prepared to use a bit (I'm factoring in getting used to a new device). But also you are going to gain a lot in flavor, which I think you will really enjoy.

Cheers!

 

[njluvdr]

The inside of my stem needed a cleaning so I put it in a small plastic tube with iso & salt, put the lid on, gave a few shakes, and pulverized the bowl end of the stem. Spare installed and replacement put on order.

Much more delicate then I thought. Unable to use as spacer. SOAK don't SHAKE.

Use a sandwich baggy.

 

[lwien]

Fuck You iwien ,
oops wrong thread ...

It is legendary that you can maintain your tolerance level for so long .

Sorry I didn't understand your question correctly.

At least in older versions, I think the latter case is true. Dreamerr had a v1.0 that she felt was not as efficient as she would like, and although she is not as sensitive to efficiency as you, it is still a priority for her. (Okay, efficiency is a priority for most everyone, but we all have different tolerances for what is "efficient".) She, for the purposes of testing, refused to use any hacks or mods.

I regularly use a "pinch" or two... mostly two. (I've been measuring and a pinch is ~0.07g) This is more than fine, but I have never tried it without glass flowers in the v1.1. I guess I could do a test run for you today.



You can do this here too. Keep in mind OF's temp test that showed flooding the oven with room temp air dropped the temp significantly.

What I do, when I want to stop a bowl, is hit the power button, then do a few puffs to evacuate the vaporpath of anything left in it, and also to cool down the product. A full breath (resting, adult male) is about 4L. That's a LOT of room temp air you are pulling through there. It's slamming on the thermal brakes. (okay, granted, some larger retention in the ceramics, but you've dropped that too below volatility points.) I find that very effective when I restart up the same bowl later.

BTW: what's your temp?


I'd say try out a few. Be prepared to use a bit (I'm factoring in getting used to a new device). But also you are going to gain a lot in flavor, which I think you will really enjoy.

Cheers!

Gain a lot in flavor over the LSV? Really?

Thanks for the tip regarding bringing in cooler air. Guess what I should do is take my first hit when it reaches vape temp, and then turn it off for the second hit.

Regarding what my temp is, are you asking what my temp is on my LSV or PD? Judging from the color of the ABV as well as taste, I'd guess it's around 380F to 385F.

 

[nigel]

Gain a lot in flavor over the LSV? Really?

I've not used one, let alone seen one, so I was making a guess. The Wiki page for it is really sparse, so not a lot of information on how it works, but looks like a lot of metal. Is it predominantly glass for the vapor path?

what I should do is take my first hit when it reaches vape temp, and then turn it off for the second hit.

Actually *NOT* just as it reads temp. Let it sit for a little bit. You want to bring the whole bowl up to temp. (Not sure exactly where the temp sensor is, but it is definitely NOT in the middle of the product you are trying to heat.) If you find OF's temp tests, he recommended waiting for X seconds. (can't remember the number) From personal experience, I feel what ever that number was a little long.

Also, let it recover a bit after the first hit before shutting off, or I doubt there will be a lot to vape for the second hit as you just cooled it down with the first hit. Perhaps shut it off right before starting second hit?? But experiment and let us know.

Regarding what my temp is, are you asking what my temp is on my LSV or PD?.

Oh, you are right. 380°F on one device might not be 380°F on another device.

But in general, I was just wondering if you were low, middle, or high. To me, that's middle. Or high-middle.

 

[lwien]

Yeah, high-middle.

The LSV's air and vapor path is all glass other than the screen and ceramic heater.

 

[nigel]

@lwien -- Okay. I measured out 0.05g. Turns out, that's more like a normal "pinch." Barely enough to cover the bottom of the bowl. I used the oil can with the lid, and compressed it. I then removed the oil can lid, but left the oil can in there. So, both compressed, then spaced with oil can.

I rose to 380°F. After hitting temp, I gave it 30 seconds to get entire bowl toasty. (Prolly a bit long?) I then proceeded to do 2 sets of two hits, to simulate two days. [I have ZERO idea how @lwien draws, so I am just guessing and did "medium" (somewhere between sipping and entire 4L breath -- maybe more on the light-medium size as normal behavior for me is sipping). I had good vapor, and turned it off on the fourth one. I then proceeded to do two more draws as it was cooling. I was surprised to see faint vapor of the second, but it was there.

As I'm typing this, I had shut off the unit, restarted it. Same temp. Same delay. Two more hits, turning it off on second draw. Two more draw to clear it and cool it. Good vapor on the first. Almost none on the second.

@lwien, I hope this helps you. Perhaps I might not have been taking as deep of breaths as you. Or my product is different? Or a ton of other variables I'm not controlling for. Of course I have no idea how to judge your tolerance either.

The LSV's air and vapor path is all glass other than the screen and ceramic heater.

Good to know. Thanks!