Discontinued The Sublimator

Tweek

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After reading about people starting off too hot, I decided to start low at about 1/3 of the dial. Nice wispy smooth hits, but too light of an effect. Going in again but this time at around 2/3. Using about .1g - a little more than last time.


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poonman

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After reading about people starting off too hot, I decided to start low at about 1/3 of the dial. Nice wispy smooth hits, but too light of an effect. Going in again but this time at around 2/3. Using about .1g - a little more than last time.

Keep us posted ,
We'll live vicariously thru you right now ....
 

Enrico

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Manufacturer
I have been through a little over gram of flowers and a tiny bit of bubble hash. Each session is about .3 give or take... just my normal instinctual amount. Don't get me wrong I am a satisfied level of medicated. That being said... surprisingly, I don't notice much difference between this and the cloud. I have more dry mouth, but that could be because I have any water today. Everything else is pretty much the same. My pain reduction is on par with what I would expect. Energy levels are the same. I am about to go mow the lawn while it is nice out.
question???in an urlier post you said you were at your 6 session ,and you are putting a .3 every time .then you have used 1.8 g and that was before your last post ,can you explane the math for me please
 
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Slightly Medicated

(SliM) Iron Lungs
Back from the lawn duty. The effects lasted about as long as I expected. After the lawn and about 2 hours later I was ready for another session.

I have had 8 sessions now. The 7th combusted again... whoops. It was a different strain and more dry then the first strain. I think that contributed to the ignition.

The 8th session I went back to the old strain and did not combust. It really does a quick job at extraction. You can exhaust a bowl quite expeditiously.

Edit: Removed the idea, because it turns out I was wrong to place the heater and atomizer on the stand together.

question???in an urlier post you said you were at your 6 session ,and you are putting a .3 every time .then you have used 1.8 g and that was before your last post ,can you explane the math for me please

I believe I said give or take. I would say around 1.25-1.5 grams of flowers is more accurate... for the 5-6 sessions. I had 5 sessions with just flowers and one with just bubble hash.

The first was small around .15, but it combusted. The other 4 I tended to average .25-.3 a session out of habit. It just depends how big of a pinch I pick up from the grinder. The 6th session was just some bubble hash, not flowers. I did not count it towards the overall weight of flower consumed.

The 7th session was small. I would say that was slightly less than .2 that session. I just wanted to try a different more sativa strain. The 8th session was somewhere between .25-.3 depending on how much I dropped in there.

So far the efficiency has been about what I expected.
 

Enrico

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Manufacturer
Back from the lawn duty. The effects lasted about as long as I expected. After the lawn and about 2 hours later I was ready for another session.
I have had 8 sessions now. The 7th combusted again... whoops. It was a different strain and more dry then the first strain. I think that contributed to the ignition. The 8th session I went back to the old strain and did not combust. It really does a quick job at extraction. You can exhaust a bowl quite expeditiously.

Right now my biggest issue is the stand. I am afraid I will knock the heater and atomizer over while it is resting there. The handles also rotate back and forth freely when on the stand... makes me worried I might knock it, have the handle accidentally swing, and cause it hit something else. Here is the solution I thought of:

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I would attach a rod (of some kind) at an angle onto the stand. When you place the unit down you would thread the rod (parallel) through a hole on each handle. This would prevent things from being as wobbly. I might try and make the changes to my stand soon.
those are not desing to be use like that at all the atomiser stays at all time in your bong with the sublimator on it...if you can't leave it in your bong ... you really need to change your rig .((((((never leave your apollo on the atomiser on the stand like this ,i beg you please...that stand is only for the apollo,thank you
 
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Tweek

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I just leave mine on my piece..but the downstem comes out, so it's not much of an issue I find.
 
Tweek,

Slightly Medicated

(SliM) Iron Lungs
those are not desing to be use like that at all the atomiser stays at all time in your bong with the sublimator on it...if you can't leave it in your bong ... you really need to change your rig .((((((never leave your apollo on the atomiser on the stand like this ,i beg you please...that stand is only for the apollo,thank you

I have plenty of rigs to choose from, but I was under the impression the expanding teflon could cause issues with sticking joints and stuff. I figured leaving it off of the water pipe's GonG joint would prevent that from being an issue. I could leave it on a water pipe going forward.
 

Enrico

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Manufacturer
Back from the lawn duty. The effects lasted about as long as I expected. After the lawn and about 2 hours later I was ready for another session.

I have had 8 sessions now. The 7th combusted again... whoops. It was a different strain and more dry then the first strain. I think that contributed to the ignition.

The 8th session I went back to the old strain and did not combust. It really does a quick job at extraction. You can exhaust a bowl quite expeditiously.

Edit: Removed the idea, because it turns out I was wrong to place the heater and atomizer on the stand together.



I believe I said give or take. I would say around 1.25-1.5 grams of flowers is more accurate... for the 5-6 sessions. I had 5 sessions with just flowers and one with just bubble hash.

The first was small around .15, but it combusted. The other 4 I tended to average .25-.3 a session out of habit. It just depends how big of a pinch I pick up from the grinder. The 6th session was just some bubble hash, not flowers. I did not count it towards the overall weight of flower consumed.

The 7th session was small. I would say that was slightly less than .2 that session. I just wanted to try a different more sativa strain. The 8th session was somewhere between .25-.3 depending on how much I dropped in there.

So far the efficiency has been about what I expected.
could you try with a little under .2 try with a little less 1.5 , even .1 .3 is way too much for eanything to happen .2 max by the way thank u for your revue,
let us know.
 

satyrday

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I have been using a VG Coil with VB Mini bubbler lately. I can toast that to perfection, and have to say so far I can get a lot higher w/ the VG using approx the same amount I've Sublimated with. However, my new theory is that the Sublimator needs a heavier load to really hit the sweet spot.

What I plan to do next is drop in about .3g and go for a single bomber hit - something that normally would tear a lung out but hopefully won't with the smooth atomizer (it really is smooth!). I'm sick of drawing out multiple hits. I want to see if I can go on overload with just one killer hit. I only hope that after removing the Apollo the thing doesn't keep cooking very long because I expect to be able to return later and hit the same load. Not sure if I'll get to this experiment yet tonight.

Of course this is only my first night with the Sub so draw no firm conclusions from my account. I am still expecting to play this like a fiddle. This is only the beginning.
 

Tweek

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You will have to dump out the load...you want to keep the atomizer and the apollo at the same temp. Then when you come back, just pop it back in.

Edit: Be careful how much you put in...I dropped too much in once, and nearly choked myself into a sweaty oblivion.
 

Slightly Medicated

(SliM) Iron Lungs
could you try with a little under .2 try with a little less 1.5 , even .1 by the way thank u for your revue,
let us know

Just gave it a test for you. I just happen to finish a quick session that I actually measured to .25 grams. After that, I measured out .1 grams and did another quick session/hit. Like I said before and I was not kidding, you can finish a session in no time.

I found the performance to be very similar between the two. The length of vapor production was about the same amount of time, but the density of the hit was a little less thick with .1 grams. Airflow was simmilar in both, but the 1.5 was maybe a little less drag... not so noticable on either that it bothered me. Since I did them back to back it is hard to judge the intensity of one versus the other. They both delivered good dense vapor. More testing needed later. :science:
 

PlanetHaze

Don't Vaporize The Planet !, Vaporize Yourself
Retailer
I have plenty of rigs to choose from, but I was under the impression the expanding teflon could cause issues with sticking joints and stuff. I figured leaving it off of the water pipe's GonG joint would prevent that from being an issue. I could leave it on a water pipe going forward.
Hi Slightly Medicated,
Think we are the culprit here. We advised customers to heat up the Apollo and atomizer together in the stand to allow for the seal to expand before placing in your water tool to avoid it getting stuck, just as you explained. Enrico designed the stand to safely hold only the Apollo. The design was based around water tools that use a slide that the atomizer could lock in to when hot and then pull the slide out to clear as well as have the slide collect nectar.

With newer stemless designs, pulling the slide to clear isn't possible, which when testing led us to advise customers to heat up the Apollo and atomizer together in the stand first, only when initially cold.

Some design changes for the stand are being investigated to safely hold both the Apollo and atomizer to be able to initially pre heat in the stand for those with stemless water tools. Enrico wants safety first, so for now we need to correct our helpful tips to only place just the Apollo in the stand.

Sorry for any confusion, we want everyone to Sub safely too.
PV
 

Enrico

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Manufacturer
I have been using a VG Coil with VB Mini bubbler lately. I can toast that to perfection, and have to say so far I can get a lot higher w/ the VG using approx the same amount I've Sublimated with. However, my new theory is that the Sublimator needs a heavier load to really hit the sweet spot.

What I plan to do next is drop in about .3g and go for a single bomber hit - something that normally would tear a lung out but hopefully won't with the smooth atomizer (it really is smooth!). I'm sick of drawing out multiple hits. I want to see if I can go on overload with just one killer hit. I only hope that after removing the Apollo the thing doesn't keep cooking very long because I expect to be able to return later and hit the same load. Not sure if I'll get to this experiment yet tonight.

Of course this is only my first night with the Sub so draw no firm conclusions from my account. I am still expecting to play this like a fiddle. This is only the beginning.
you will need to pull the med out of the bowl. the apollo need to be always with the atomizer both very hot , together always, you cannot leave weed in it
 

Darb

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WOW!
Got my Sublimator.
Had a quick go with herb and it was nice but its been a long day on the couch with my Cloud.
Threw a pinch of kief (.1) in the atomizer and a dab of BHO in the crater and my eyes are half shut.
I even got cotton mouth.
This thing is great for concentrates!!
Will try with a fresh head and some herb in the am but so far I'm impressed!!
Good job Enrico!

The Blaze Glass bubbler from PV is nice as well!!
 

Slightly Medicated

(SliM) Iron Lungs
Sorry for any confusion, we want everyone to Sub safely too.
PV

It's all good... I was just confused there for a bit. :whoa: A cool GonG stand with a really heavy base, or a suction cup base would be neat/safe? I am sure things will get modified and sorted out accordingly. ;) Thanks for the clarification.

I want to get a ash-catcher/2nd chamber soon anyway. I think it would make cleaning/reclaim easier.

Edit: what about slide right joint wax on the Teflon?

SliM, are you using water or hitting dry?

:peace:

It's a mix, but the first few were dry. I also tried the bubble dry and it was quite tasty. I tried water and did not notice much of a difference in intensity. I went back to water for a bit. Might try more dry tomorrow using some different rigs... I think the DG Frit would be interesting dry.
 

Dreamerr

Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
Enrico, you crack me up and I love it:love:. The sub is not a good thing for me so I am offering help in judging the video contest if you want. I can't wait to see how everyone imitates you.

Paka, I was surprised that you actually got one. Are you still alive?:ko:
 

satyrday

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Presently eating my PV Ruffles - "All Dressed".

Edit: WTF? These are pretty good. You Canadians with your special Ruffles and toasted cheese w/ gravy.
 
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Detonator

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could you try with a little under .2 try with a little less 1.5 , even .1 .3 is way too much for eanything to happen .2 max by the way thank u for your revue,
let us know.

Very cool having you answering question here on fc. I want to win your contest. This is my second or additional entry........Keep on Sub in it!

click on pic to play

 
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