goatgobaahh
Well-Known Member
Oh thank god...
I found the search function!
I found the search function!
flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
The search function is awesome! Can be a little tricky to get the hang of, but IME it works better than most forums (those for "meds" and damned near anything else!).
Solo issues..... Wolf, take a look at the solo thread. I was close to getting one a couple months ago, but seems that the latest series were being reported as not quite as great as earlier ones. I probably shouldn't comment any more than that. Not appropriate thread, and I haven't used one of the newer ones. I have used an older one (M106 I think - or purchased around that timeframe) that I like and had me thinking about getting one. But, still like my Q a lot better. For what its worth, I opted to pick up a new log-style for my next vape instead.
Solo issues..... Wolf, take a look at the solo thread. I was close to getting one a couple months ago, but seems that the latest series were being reported as not quite as great as earlier ones. I probably shouldn't comment any more than that. Not appropriate thread, and I haven't used one of the newer ones. I have used an older one (M106 I think - or purchased around that timeframe) that I like and had me thinking about getting one. But, still like my Q a lot better. For what its worth, I opted to pick up a new log-style for my next vape instead.
I started doing 375F and think the flavor is excellent at least at the beginning, but as the bowl progresses the flavor goes away. For more flavor use the whip. The bag combines the good flavor and the crap flavor into one flavor which might be why you cant tell the difference cause I sure can.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
IIRC the OP is using the whip.
I agree completely about the flavour from bags. In my experience they start to taste nasty after only three or four fills, and I find the stale resin taste overpowering.
For really good flavour you should start even lower. I start at 160°C or 320°F. Because the terpenoids that carry flavour are the most volatile compounds, taste always degrades as the bowl progresses. By starting lower you'll get a higher proportion of flavour in your first hits. When the tastiness fades, you can step up the temperature to get more psychoactives.
kingofnull
ace
I agree. Bags taste fine in the beginning, but the taste drops off pretty fast.
That may be in there. His AVB is also black he said so he has to be way too hot
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
Yet OP is starting at 165C, working up from there in 5C increments. Something not right with this picture.
Reveen
Well-Known Member
Do you get any active cannabinoids at such low temps? I usually start at 185c (sometimes 175c) and I can get a little speedy buzz going, but not much. I'll have to try it out again tonight. I agree though, the lower temps taste amazing!
Well, tried getting through all 215 pages but man is that taking a long time.... LOL
just bought the Q a week ago from TorontoVaporizer and loving it. I'm still playing around but really enjoying the elbow pack @200 degrees. Will definitely read a lot more. Accessories will definitely be wanted. But want some decorative glass and having trouble finding nice pieces.
Been a smoker for years and did lots of research before my purchase, I think I made a wise choice.
just bought the Q a week ago from TorontoVaporizer and loving it. I'm still playing around but really enjoying the elbow pack @200 degrees. Will definitely read a lot more. Accessories will definitely be wanted. But want some decorative glass and having trouble finding nice pieces.
Been a smoker for years and did lots of research before my purchase, I think I made a wise choice.
shadycheeba
New Member
i just got the Q recently and as far as the taste of strains goes all med grade herb tastes somewhat close together.you should taste a difference though.the blue cheese and banana OG taste pretty close vapin but chocolope was a whole new ballgame in flavor.i wouldnt bother with street/mids/commercial herb in a vape.also i found in my VB that i ran blueberry straight for 3-4 months and then when i switched strains all i could taste was the blueberry for months and months.good cleaning/new whip im sure would have solved that.
Yes you do. I like the buzz I get from low temperatures. I rarely took my Extreme over 190°C. My MFLB PA is set to about 40% power, which is what I judge to be about 160-170°C with the technique that I use. I take short 3-5 second hits on the FVS2 for the same reason.
flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
A lot really depends on what you're looking for and the quality of your stash. I keep my temps low (185C +/-) during the day and other times I might be trying to get something accomplished (other than getting vaked!). Love the sweet taste and the light "active" buzz. And, I'm not really too bothered by a little bag staleness if I'm carrying a full one around while doing chores around the house.
Don't throw that duff in the avb tin just yet, though. Save it for later! I've found its not too bad at all if you finish it within 10-20 hours. Just keep it covered (I throw mine in a small jar with lid). Works best for me if I first start with a fresh load later at about 185C then work it up to 205-210. When that's spent, dump it and throw in the leftovers from earlier. Don't really like hitting leftovers first thing, but after I get a buzz going its not really too bad. Just leave it between 200-210 and cycle through whatever you have from earlier in the day. If I want to get to sleep, I sometimes fill a larger than usual cyclone bowl of leftovers - 3/4 or so of the way to the black wrap - kick it up to around 230C and hit it through the bubbler with a little more water than normal. Taste is a little rough for my taste at that temp - but it will usually knock you back pretty well. Just don't forget to stir every hit or 2.
Same may work for others... or you may not like it. But, main reason I'm throwing this out here is to remind everyone (especially you new owners) to experiment. The Q has its faults - as I think every vape does - and there are certainly others that do one thing or another better. But, I still don't think it can be beat in versatility or the ability to play with it in many new and interesting ways. As long as you don't get it wet and are careful not to snap your heater cover you can do just about anything with it. Whip, whip through glass, bag, bag through glass, air assisted whip - hell... you can even flip it upside down and use it like a cheap cloud or funny looking log vape! Think I've figured out a way to perch it on every piece of glass in the house.
So, LOVE YOUR Q's Brothers & Sisters! You could spend 7 or 8 times as much buying several other vapes that do specific things better than she does. But getting 85-90% of the same experience/performance as any of them - combined in one cheap, simple package - is still one of the best deals going IMO.
Don't throw that duff in the avb tin just yet, though. Save it for later! I've found its not too bad at all if you finish it within 10-20 hours. Just keep it covered (I throw mine in a small jar with lid). Works best for me if I first start with a fresh load later at about 185C then work it up to 205-210. When that's spent, dump it and throw in the leftovers from earlier. Don't really like hitting leftovers first thing, but after I get a buzz going its not really too bad. Just leave it between 200-210 and cycle through whatever you have from earlier in the day. If I want to get to sleep, I sometimes fill a larger than usual cyclone bowl of leftovers - 3/4 or so of the way to the black wrap - kick it up to around 230C and hit it through the bubbler with a little more water than normal. Taste is a little rough for my taste at that temp - but it will usually knock you back pretty well. Just don't forget to stir every hit or 2.
Same may work for others... or you may not like it. But, main reason I'm throwing this out here is to remind everyone (especially you new owners) to experiment. The Q has its faults - as I think every vape does - and there are certainly others that do one thing or another better. But, I still don't think it can be beat in versatility or the ability to play with it in many new and interesting ways. As long as you don't get it wet and are careful not to snap your heater cover you can do just about anything with it. Whip, whip through glass, bag, bag through glass, air assisted whip - hell... you can even flip it upside down and use it like a cheap cloud or funny looking log vape! Think I've figured out a way to perch it on every piece of glass in the house.
So, LOVE YOUR Q's Brothers & Sisters! You could spend 7 or 8 times as much buying several other vapes that do specific things better than she does. But getting 85-90% of the same experience/performance as any of them - combined in one cheap, simple package - is still one of the best deals going IMO.
Wolf46
Vapor War Team Cap
Ah ah, tonight i tried to use an evolution pipe (mini incredibowl rip off) with the eq!
I put the mixture (weed, kief and oil mix yummy) in the evolution pipe and the EP on top of the cyclone bowl, i slowly draw until the polycarbonate chamber is full of vapor, then pull up the EP and a giant cloud of vapor just come directly in my lungs...what a genius idea i have...
Ah for the record, i buy an arizer solo from amazon, so i'm definitely an arizer lovers! i'm so excited for the arrive of my solo!
Oh, and tonight i also tried to smoke a joint...desgusting...in less then 10 days, i'm seriously start to hate the combustion...
I put the mixture (weed, kief and oil mix yummy) in the evolution pipe and the EP on top of the cyclone bowl, i slowly draw until the polycarbonate chamber is full of vapor, then pull up the EP and a giant cloud of vapor just come directly in my lungs...what a genius idea i have...
Ah for the record, i buy an arizer solo from amazon, so i'm definitely an arizer lovers! i'm so excited for the arrive of my solo!
Oh, and tonight i also tried to smoke a joint...desgusting...in less then 10 days, i'm seriously start to hate the combustion...
Vaporisateur
Senior Marijuanist
keepsake
Soul Searchin`
You are very convincing.
I'm going to order it now LOL.
I was just wondering why I've seen a few ppl say they dislike the bag function and considers it useless. I've never used a bag and it looks pretty handy to have when I want to just lay in bed and vape.
Vaporisateur
Senior Marijuanist
You may or may not get tired of the bags after a while, but this has nothing to do with using a Q or not...
You will appreciate the versatility of the Q anyway, it does a great job at what it is intended for
You will appreciate the versatility of the Q anyway, it does a great job at what it is intended for
Keepsake you talking an 18-14? Or the bong takes an 18mm. If later you can just use the two 18mm elbows that come with the EQ. OR you can get it from a local head shop. Puff it up and aqua lab have some on the online side.
Vaporisateur
Senior Marijuanist
I'd say they are pretty much equivalent. You have to stir the herbs in both as well to ensure a uniform extraction, but the Q does a better job if you are lazy and don't stir your stuff at all.
I use the Q whip directly into the 18mm hole and it works pretty well
Otherwise, you can check with aqualab technologies, they are recommended here and I bought there before already.Yes you may want to eventually get something a little different. But out of the box you will be good to go. It comes with 2 18mm elbows. one you will obviously need for the top of the bowl. The other you can drop into the gong joint in the bong. You may want to just get one of these one day.
http://www.puffitup.com/19-mm-Hot-Box-Vaporizer-Water-Pipe-Adapter-p/hbv19mmadapter.htm
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/vapo...-lab-tech-18-mm-glass-vapor-hose-adapter.html
i like it a bit better cause it is not at a 90
http://www.puffitup.com/19-mm-Hot-Box-Vaporizer-Water-Pipe-Adapter-p/hbv19mmadapter.htm
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/vapo...-lab-tech-18-mm-glass-vapor-hose-adapter.html
i like it a bit better cause it is not at a 90
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
This has been discussed a few times in this thread and IIRC there is another thread or two specifically on the question (or comparing to the SSV). The consensus - although certainly not unanimous - seems to be that the Q can deliver as thick a hit if using the elbow-pack.
Re the bag . . . it's mostly about convenience. Some like to leisurely sip while in bed or watching a movie, etc., and of course it makes group sessions easy. The downsides: The vapor is not as thick as a good passive draw vape, the taste gets stale before long, and actives are lost due to condensation.
IMO you are right. I have had it for a long time now and originally I was bag bag bag. It is easier. I don't have to stand over where my vape is. I have a giant dog so I can't just put the fing thing anywhere. I also thought the bag was giving me bigger rips and more relaxed and chill.
I totally no longer agree with that. Apparently I did not read this forum well enough. The EQ was my second vape and I was drawing all slow and sippy dippy, like it was the fucking whispr. Well apparently that is not necessary and just hitting that shit creates clouds like a mofo. Got a nice shower head bubbler and just have been ripping hits through that since. Haven't bagged in weeks. Getting huge rips that gag me at a much lower heat than I ever did before with the bag.