I emailed them on the 30th of December to see if they had been made aware of this issue in the Plenty, no response so far.Eager to find out whether us Plenty people will be able to use this. Will find out soon I’m sure.
The heating element will manage anyLooks like it will lose some of its conductive power with the ss bowl. But that’s the trade off.
Yes, the Plenty is SS.I emailed them on the 30th of December to see if they had been made aware of this issue in the Plenty, no response so far.
Although, I'm pretty sure the Plenty already has a stainless insert.
Got the mail a second ago
The question is, what do they do with people having two filling chambers? they give only one for free as far as i understood it...
but kudos that they came up with something and mailed everyone
edit: and what is with the reducer? seems like an insert for the normal chamber...
edit 2: and what about the melting plastic? :-)
Plenty is already SS.Eager to find out whether us Plenty people will be able to use this. Will find out soon I’m sure.
Possibly hacked by DEA?Okay.
My Volcano Hybrid just turned it's self on and started blowing air.
So I agree with those above that this will reduced conduction unless you really leave it on there a bit. Just slower thermal transfer with SS. So, I do like the conduction component...I like hybrid heating....and it may be well reduced by this but so be it.
I also think this may well resolve melting plastic as during the course of a normal use cycle, the SS may not get nearly as hot as the AL did. But I really have no numbers to back this up at all....just speculation.
Now, we all as a community have a LOT of experience over a wide range of industries. For me, early it was airborne electronics (avionics, etc) and for a longer period it was core telco network equipment. In both, reliability/availability/maintainability were really HUGE.
With that background in mind, I gotta say that S&B had to be full of shit if they said that they tested this thing to any significant degree. How can they not catch this. You accelerate testing by harsher conditions. Did they never leave a chamber on longer than they broadly recommend in the manual. FFS.....what in the world were they thinking?
Cheers and here's hoping that we still have conduction and that this resolves both of the outstanding issues.
You are probably on the EU site. It’s a pain in the ass trying to get to the proper site but if you go to support and scroll to the bottom you will see the chamber reducer in USD and you should be good to go.I was going to order the replacement ring but there is no option for the United States under the country drop-down menu. I can select the US site, but no option to select my country for shipping. What the fuck?
Given some time to think about it, doesn't ss retain heat longer than aluminium?
This will be even worse on the chamber housings as they are now..
Also what was said before about the ring just sitting on top.
I don't think it can fall off easily as the machine will be stable on a table BUT the plastic around there will also get way hotter...
and as mentiones before, if they take it into production then we will all have the "old hybrid 1.0 with the ring on top" making it a pretty shit solution I think.
( sorry for the language )
I don't want to judge before trying this chamber out for myself so not jumping to conclusions. just thoughts that occurred
also,
they didn't take any blame for it or have transparency about why they do this and just call it a replacement ring.. weird!
The new stainless steel ring that comes with the stainless steel lower chamber goes over the aluminum conduction ring on the Hybrid. This way when you put the new stainless steel chamber on, The plastic housing wont heat up. Causing more convection and less conduction. Which I believe the Hybrid is capable of. I've been using the ss chamber from my Classic Volcano and have been getting excellent results already.
The upper valve is made of ss. The lower herb chamber was made of medical grade aluminum to conduct more heat.for a device of this price the solution they are trying to pass off as "product update" is laughable...it is a 13 bucks SS insert to circumvent a big recall. it is literally the most cheapish thing they could come up with. and they are basically gimping their own innovation if the new ring lessens the conduction capability, which was one of the selling points of the Hybrid.
i could swear people will be up in arms and the whole thing will blow up in S & B´s faces if they find out that newer Hybrids will have the SS ring built into the device. and that is happening 99% imo.
that they don´t acknowledge anything is just the cherry on top. i won´t be buying anything from this company again, that is for sure. this whole affair is like a slap in the face to me. "here, take your free ring, all is good! nothing to see here, just move on" thats not how this works
in essence, everyone should write them a drastic mail, asking if they are serious or if they really think their customers are dumb...
other question: what is with the metal insert in the black part of the chamber, is this also aluminium? if so you have an aluminium heater blowing hot air to an ss ring through an ss inlay encased in plastic but this exits through an aluminium part? what a mess..this device is a complete mess from an engineering perspective
I am curious regarding the ss ring... if you really only put it on top of the old aluminium heating ring, I am wondering if there will be no friction from ss ring on the aluminium ring... and if that would be the case I can think that the harder ss ring scratching on the old aluminium ring when putting the heating chamber on will produce even more aluminium dust/particles...
But as far as nobody until now know how the ss ring is installed this is pure speculation...
I wrote them, I don't think this is a proper fix for such an expensive device. They should RMA all hybrids and replace everything properly. Laying basically a steel washer i can get at home depot over an aluminum ring is not a fix, that's so bootlegged. Very unhappy....
Last night I cleaned up my hybrid really good and used it for the first time, my god it is such a fantastic vape, I couldn't even finish a second bag, she slapped me silly. So efficient, so fast and that vapor, wow!!! I wish we weren't going through this crap.