vaporizing salvia

[Seek]

If I knew this when I had Salvia looong ago. I thought that it's unvapable. I thought one even need super hot lighter to achieve something. These reports sound interesting. Salvinorin is infamous for being dysphoric and "brutally dissociative". Maybe it's not its fault but it's again because we smoke it and get bad side effect from pyrolysis. Just like smoking anything active will impair the possible high. When smoked I've got extremely confused everytime, visuals were present only on very high doses when I was already so mindfucked I didn't even realize what was happening. The most powerful visual was that the vision swirled onto some sprial and back. Objects and people merging together in that spiral, depth of field doesn't exist on salvia trip for me. Well I don't know if I could try it again but in a vape. Our government demonized it labeled it as dangerous synthetic LSD-like designer drug (bath salts etc) and outlawed it together with real true designer drugs. So now we have 2 harmless plants ilegal and demonized by lieful propaganda.

Salvia visuals don't look like psychedelic to me, just dissociative, like warping of dimensions. The psychedelic analogue of the Salvia is n,n-dimitri, which has been used with great success with specially modded EQ setup (ideal temp 175°C if anyone interested then it tastes sweet and smooth with no irritation at all, more will combust and taste like burning plastic death, the taste difference when combustingXvaping is 50x more extreme than with mj).

 

[Vapordreamer]

If I knew this when I had Salvia looong ago. I thought that it's unvapable. I thought one even need super hot lighter to achieve something. These reports sound interesting. Salvinorin is infamous for being dysphoric and "brutally dissociative". Maybe it's not its fault but it's again because we smoke it and get bad side effect from pyrolysis. Just like smoking anything active will impair the possible high. When smoked I've got extremely confused everytime, visuals were present only on very high doses when I was already so mindfucked I didn't even realize what was happening. The most powerful visual was that the vision swirled onto some sprial and back. Objects and people merging together in that spiral, depth of field doesn't exist on salvia trip for me. Well I don't know if I could try it again but in a vape. Our government demonized it labeled it as dangerous synthetic LSD-like designer drug (bath salts etc) and outlawed it together with real true designer drugs. So now we have 2 harmless plants ilegal and demonized by lieful propaganda.

Salvia visuals don't look like psychedelic to me, just dissociative, like warping of dimensions. The psychedelic analogue of the Salvia is n,n-dimitri, which has been used with great success with specially modded EQ setup (ideal temp 175°C if anyone interested then it tastes sweet and smooth with no irritation at all, more will combust and taste like burning plastic death, the taste difference when combustingXvaping is 50x more extreme than with mj).

I have experienced visuals somewhat like on other psychedelics with weed + salvia low-dose vaporized.
It's a pity to see Salvia is being made illegal in many states and that there is so little information about the effects when smoked compared to when vaporized.
I am not looking for the 10 minute extreme effects but rather to use it over a period of 4 hours like a classic psychedelic. With a vaporizer I achieved that but the consistency varies for me at least.

(Only thing that I found on the web is that when vaporized it is the most effective route of administration and that you get treshold effects with 250 mics and extreme effects with about 1000 mics of pure salvinorin a.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

...might have like half a gram of 10x salvia... hehehe... anyone know if it resinates? All I have is my Launch Box, don't need a trip every time I wanna medicate lol.

 

[Seek]

I think Salvinorin is in Salvia trichomes, like in weed, probably less resinous as it'S way more potent. But it's effects fade so fast one needs to do one big hit if wants to breakthrough. MFLB could do only the salvia buzz i think.

 

[Edward Hyde]

i got salvia that is not extracted so its x1.could i vape that with an mflb and how much would be enough to get me in a satisfying level of high?

 

[Puffers]

Normally you need to intake an adequate dose rapidly to feel significant effects. The mflb would probably get you a buzz but if it were me i would probably rig it to a water tool with a decent vol to be able to intake a more potent hit in one or two rips if your looking for a more pyschoactive experience. When i combusted salvia i didnt get decent effects til i put it in a bong.......

 

[Edward Hyde]

Normally you need to intake an adequate dose rapidly to feel significant effects. The mflb would probably get you a buzz but if it were me i would probably rig it to a water tool with a decent vol to be able to intake a more potent hit in one or two rips if your looking for a more pyschoactive experience. When i combusted salvia i didnt get decent effects til i put it in a bong.......

i've combusted salvia x20,x30 and x40 in both bong and pipe and it pretty strong feeling, i was thinking maybe with the mflb + x1 salvia it would be just an easy go kind of effect.thats what i am looking for i think.

 

[Edward Hyde]

i vaped some salvia x1 yesterday and its pretty strong.not even close to the extracted one but u get the head high and a bit of that laugh. the good thing is i got like 40 g for about 20 euro to boil and chew but it tastes like shit and now its all left to be vaped in my little box!

 

[Bankrupt-Music]

Never tried Vaping it but I hated every experience smoking it. Always got bad trips

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Never tried Vaping it but I hated every experience smoking it. Always got bad trips

Yeah, sal isn't known for her "good" trips, although when I tried quids (loose leaf balled up and chewed slowly) it was incredible. Slower come up, lasted some hours, felt fantastic.

 

[Tweek]

The last time I had Salvia (the old fashioned way) it felt like my universe was being unzipped by supreme beings. When I spotted them, they held me down until they could zip it all up again. It was interesting, but I can see how people freak out. Vaporizing sounds pleasant, almost as if it mellows the experience...I would definitely try to combust the leftovers though (if that is your thing), as I imagine there is alot left in there?

 

[five0five]

Hello my fellow vaporists. I have a question if you all can be so kind to answer it for me. I wanna try some SALVIA to if see if its possible for me to experience one of those out of body experiences. Now i here is my question what kind of SALVIA do i purchase (root, extract) to vaporize in my NO2?

 

[Tweek]

To have the full effect, you will need an extract and smoking will be the only way to get the traditional experience ( you can chew leaves, but they are bitter and from what I understand, weaker)... I'm talking about the "your universe is being unzipped" type of visions. That being said, always start low x5 or x10 and work your way up gradually (don't be afraid to stop when you feel it's too strong. Don't ever take a high extract just to prove something.) Especially if you have never tried Salvia before, and are new to this type of thing.

Also, have a sitter...someone you trust who will be sober and keep an eye on you. Stay home, in a nice safe, quiet environment...no music, turn out the lights and close your eyes. Salvia is not a recreational drug and should be treated with respect. Be honest with yourself...are you mature enough for the experience? Are you of stable enough mind to even go down that road? It may all seem rather dramatic, but it can be some very intense stuff. I generally can handle it no more than a couple of times a year, and purely for meditation/inner exploration type approaches. Don't think for a second you can take this and head out to the club.

As with anything you are planning to put into your body, do your research carefully; what works for one person very well, could be a nightmare for another. Research how anything you put in your body may interact with medications, alcohol, your mental state, etc. Here is a good place to start:

http://sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html Be Safe!

 

[Puffers]

Great post tweek although some here have great success vaping it in a flame powered or high temp vape like the ssv. A few posts said it was more psychedelic for them with vaporizaton rather than combustion

 

[Tweek]

Thanks Puffers! The problem with vaporization that concerns me, is dosing. Daniel addresses this in his guide, and it is worth a read if you have not checked it out already.

 

[Vapordreamer]

I somehow doubt that Daniel did much research on how to properly vaporize Salvia and what the doses and effects of plain leaf (he mentions that with pure Salvinorin A it's difficult to measure the dose but what about plain leaf?) are for this delivery method since he just advises people to avoid vaporizing Salvia Divinorum!
He does not even mention that vaporizing feels different then smoking and comes on differently, only that it is more efficient. To me it seems that like with other herbs (Calea Z. for example which I find to be very effective when vaporized) vaporizing these herbs is just not explored by that many people which is very unfortunate I think.

 

[five0five]

Thanks Vapordreamer.. Can you please tell me what are the best herbs to vaporizer that actually have an effect on the mind,body,ect..??? Ones that you have tried and liked..thanks in advance.

 

[kingofnull]

Thanks Vapordreamer.. Can you please tell me what are the best herbs to vaporizer that actually have an effect on the mind,body,ect..??? Ones that you have tried and liked..thanks in advance.

Cannabis.

 

[Vapordreamer]

Thanks Vapordreamer.. Can you please tell me what are the best herbs to vaporizer that actually have an effect on the mind,body,ect..??? Ones that you have tried and liked..thanks in advance.

My favorite herbs to vaporize so far are:

Bali Kratom Powder (I vaporize it always with cannabis to avoid nausea, don't take Kratom with syrian rue), Cannabis, Calea Zacatechichi, Syrian Rue seeds (must be grinded to powder, take caution cause it is a MAOI!), Salvia Divinorum, Baldrian mixed with Hops (don't like the taste though), Wild Lettuce.

All of these herbs seem to have a very pronounced synergy with cannabis is what I found out when I compared the same doses vaped without cannabis and with cannabis.

For more herbs that can be vaporized, look here: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-ethnobotanical-thread.148/

 

[five0five]

thanks.
where is a good place to order from??

 

[five0five]

Cannabis.

CANNIBIS is my #1 herb..LOL (tangy dream & blue cheese today). Just want to try other herbs to see if it has any effect on me.

 

[Tweek]

Like I said earlier, educate yourself. Lots of resources out there, like Erowid: http://www.erowid.org/

 

[five0five]

Thanks Tweek. I have been trying to educate myself as much as possible and with the help from you and others here on FC i found alot of info and decided to try two for right now. Eucalyptus and Licorice Root. Cool thing is my sister works at an herb store so everything i wanna try will be available for FREE...lol. I am also gonna try some salvia.

 

[Nosferatu]

Wow I forgot all about this thread, can't believe it got so big. I don't even really care for salivia much anymore, it's completely dissociative and no matter what I get that sweaty feeling everytime. But I agree there can be some introspection gained, like seeing the fabric of your world literally unfolding before your eyes and reforming all in but a minute.

 

[Tweek]

It's intense stuff that's for sure. I think alot of people make the mistake of thinking it's in the same realm as weed...nothing could be further from the truth.