VaporCup Deluxe Vaporizer

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Good detective work. :)
Yes, that is very new.
That is probably why there is not a lot of information or reviews to be found.
I could only find their website, that stoner youtube video, and some random forum posts like this one.
 
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fregglepops

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according to the manufacturer(in very broken english) the oven isn't brass and any brass components are lead free.........i'd post the e mail but dunno the rules on that as when i was in a dialogue with namaste vapes i wasn't allowed to put any of them up.
 
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Like most, I'm curious about the materials used and look forward to an FC vet's demo but
it's a smart form factor for public use, and I imagine this sort of "hidden in plain sight" model will pop up more and more as time goes on.
The Puff-it was an attempt at this, as was the Indica(more so with my stealth straw idea:)), the Haze even looks a bit like a flask from a distance, all to transition cannabis use into the mainstream, cool!
 
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According to the e mails the vaporcup was designed in Los Angeles. No word on where it was assembled. Components are all safe according to the e mails. I wish i had the money right now to buy one as i like yhe form factor very much. Back i go to the emails to ask more questions. Does anybody have anything they'd like to ask? kinda looks like thy took a Vapir NO2 internals and put a new body on it IMO that is and that counts for not very much
 
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According to the e mails the vaporcup was designed in Los Angeles. No word on where it was assembled. Components are all safe according to the e mails. I wish i had the money right now to buy one as i like yhe form factor very much. Back i go to the emails to ask more questions. Does anybody have anything they'd like to ask? kinda looks like thy took a Vapir NO2 internals and put a new body on it IMO that is and that counts for not very much
It looks like they took a $100 vape, stuck it in a cup, and charge $250 for it? Really? To each their own, I guess. Maybe they read about people doing that with the Solo and saw a money making opportunity.
 

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The sound of vapor
I'd like to know if this is a convection or conduction vape. It looks like conduction to me, but I've been wrong before. It would be a shame to have all that internal space and not use it for convection.
Or water cooling!
 
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I'd like to know if this is a convection or conduction vape. It looks like conduction to me, but I've been wrong before. It would be a shame to have all that internal space and not use it for convection.
I have an email from them where they refer to it as a hybrid but no other explanation beyond that. Still waiting on more information.
 

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i got an email saying i could try it at the la high times cup at riverside. didnt give a date
 
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http://www.cannabiscup.com/southern-california

The Cannabis Cup in So Cal will be on Feb 7-8, 2015 in San Bernardino
Ive never been, but might go this year just for fun.
I think there is a smoking area, if you have the legal documents (Recommendation or Card)

I did not know the difference between convection and conduction in vaporizers, but after looking it up, I would say that this is probably correct to be considered a hybrid.

If you put the herbs in the internal heat chamber I would think it would act as hybrid because the heat chamber touches the herbs directly with heat but also hot air is drawn through it.

If you put the herbs in the glass straw that inserts into the chamber, and the herbs don't touch the heat chamber, it would be mostly convection.
I may have misunderstood the difference between the two, but that is my guess.
 
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scottg402

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I did not know the difference between convection and conduction in vaporizers, but after looking it up, I would say that this is probably correct to be considered a hybrid.

If you put the herbs in the internal heat chamber I would think it would act as hybrid because the heat chamber touches the herbs directly with heat but also hot air is drawn through it.

If you put the herbs in the glass straw that inserts into the chamber, and the herbs don't touch the heat chamber, it would be mostly convection.
I may have misunderstood the difference between the two, but that is my guess.
Yeah I'm waiting to discuss further with them but I think your assumptions are correct (same thoughts as @NickDlow).
 
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Regardless of which type it actually is, the VaporCup definitely "grabs you by the boo boo" (as Chong would say). Last night I did two glass straw sessions and was pretty much laid to waste. (in a good way).
I played music for about three hours.

I tend to go for Sativas, as they are better for actually functioning.
My current supply of Jack Herer has a super awesome effect while keeping your higher functions.

Regardless of what people might think about the design etc., all I can say is that it works.
I happen to like the design. It was sitting right in front of a friend of mine who never gave it a second thought until I pointed it out to him. That is good stealth.
I am not super worried about being caught out with a vape as I am a legal patient, but it is nice that I can leave it on the shelf and the cleaning lady isn't going to notice it at all.
I am not a teenager, so it is great to not have to hide everything away every time you use it.

Just one FYI, if you try a VaporCup with the glass straw, be careful when you reload as the end of the glass straw gets a bit hot. I guess that is common sense, but when you are well medicated you might not be careful with it. :)
 
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fregglepops

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Assembled in China but they apparently do their own QC. The broken english in the emails and the way they're worded make me hella suspiscious. But i'm a stoner and getting on in years so maybe i'm just a cynical paranoid mess!!!!:shrug: hahaha
 
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Assembled in China but they apparently do their own QC. The broken english in the emails and the way they're worded make me hella suspiscious. But i'm a stoner and getting on in years so maybe i'm just a cynical paranoid mess!!!!:shrug: hahaha

I asked them a few questions and the answers were not in "broken english".
Seemed pretty much normal to me.
I was talking to a guy named Michael, but maybe you talked to someone else.
Then again, maybe you are a "paranoid mess"... LOL :)

Most things today are made in China.
In fact, almost everything in stores is made in China.
My company manufactures a lot of stuff there.
You just have to use a really good factory and there is no issue.
They are really careful these days with quality etc, mainly because stores here have really really strict quality guidelines.
To sell in most stores here you have to have super high quality control and testing.
My company spent about $300,000 on testing last year.
It really hurts to do, but if you want to sell in America it is what is required.

I just bought a Mandolin that was made in China, and it totally rocks.
It is as good as mandolins costing several thousand more that are USA made.
I think China has had to up their game as smaller countries are on their heels in manufacturing.
I bet that soon you will see a lot of stuff being made in Vietnam and Indonesia.
The rise of the middle class in China means that workers pay will have to increase, thus cost of product must follow.
 
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lwien

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I bet that soon you will see a lot of stuff being made in Vietnam and Indonesia.
The rise of the middle class in China means that workers pay will have to increase, thus cost of product must follow.

China's going to outsource to Vietnam and Indonesia? And within a decade, Vietnam and Indonesia will be outsourcing to Yeman. ;)
 

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No worries Fregglepops,
I have that conversation all the time about manufacturing in China, so it just automatically comes out of me. :)
 
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fregglepops

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thy do tend to um how do i put it.........copy stuff........so expect a slew of cup shaped vapes soon was my only point really. If you wanna keep a good design secret then don't have it manufactured in a country renowned for copying good ideas IMO
 
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lwien

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thy do tend to um how do i put it.........copy stuff........so expect a slew of cup shaped vapes soon was my only point really. If you wanna keep a good design secret then don't have it manufactured in a country renowned for copying good ideas IMO

Japan is known for copying good ideas and making them even better. China is known for using inferior materials to counterfeit known brand name merchandise. Quite a different thing, eh? Now that's not to say that everything coming out of China is inferior product, but they have one helluva reputation to overcome.
 
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indeed it is very different. true words @lwien but anyway if this was at an NO2 pricepoint i'd be all over this like a tramp on chips 250 is a
bit much for what it is.
 
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indeed it is very different. true words @lwien but anyway if this was at an NO2 pricepoint i'd be all over this like a tramp on chips 250 is a
bit much for what it is.

Wow. I had not realized the NO2 price had dropped so much.
I bought mine a few years ago and it was $250.
I am guessing that when you bring out a new one you have a reasonable but highish price to recoup the tooling charges etc, and then when your "version 2" comes out the price of the first one comes down.
Now the "VapirRise" has taken the $250 price point and the NO2 is cheaper.

Has anyone tried the VapirRise?
That multi whip attachment looks like a party waiting to happen. :)
 
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Jack Sprat

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Doesn't look like they have an experienced sales force. Judging from the advert they are looking for part time people to work on a commission basis. Seems that they aren't interested in a long term employees.

"Job Description: Sales Reps Wanted - SMOKING IS OUT, VAPORIZING IS IN We are looking for motivated and ambitious self-starters who are capable and reliable and want earn extra money in their spare time. YOU - have the right connections, attitude and energy to sell a new herbal vaporizer. WE - Have the best and most discreet vaporizer on the market. Sales will start November 1st. You will earn commissions on sales. Let’s make money and have fun together. Please forward your email address, telephone number, resume and any job experience you think may be helpful."
http://www.simplyhired.com/job/sale...ing-is-in-job/perfect-technologies/duy27el6mf
 
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