Vaporbrothers Dabbler & Eleven Pen

[530rasta]

No Pakalolo...I cant comment on others experiences, im just sharing mine on a open forum.

The electronic fuzzy burning taste smell is the same on the omicron as it is on the dabbler.

The third explanation, to your two posted, is that I am more picky about my intake of herbs and how I do it.

I loaded the thing just as this thread and every page within (which i read all of) says too,

Sorry if i am not happy with the product. Doesnt mean others are not, but it doesnt take the validity of my point away either

 

[paytonpenn]

I think your taking too long of hits... Try hittin the button for only 4 second at a time, then letting off for 1 sec, then back on. I found that the longer button holds produce that wierd taste. I can keep it in check though by pulsing with the above pattern.

I agree, 9 seconds is crazy, they say not to press my KISS for more than 5 seconds at a time.

 

[530rasta]

lol i was only doing the 9 sec hold downs to clean up the wick,

to hit the thing i was holding down for 5 secs max, more like 3-4,

trust me i followed this thread to make sure not to fuck up,

 

[paytonpenn]

I understand, I too feel like there could be an electronic taste, but it would be more noticeable if I loaded more oil, in which it (the electronic taste) relates to the residue of oil. New hits always taste amazing, I don't think the taste is going to improve as you collect resins.

 

[Vitolo]

In other words, all of the experienced happy users.......
Also, I have a pretty sensitive sense of taste and I don't get a funky flavour from mine. ...

I have to add, that if one uses only a coil/hot element device for wax/BHO oils..... and uses no other form to medicate, the sensitivity of taste changes.
The hot oil vapor makes the tongue a bit 'cooked"... parboiled so to speak.
Things begin to taste more metallic.
This is a pitfall in "switching over" to pen use only.
This is my experience at least.
I use all of my pens, but only a few times a day...
I Use flowers, and other concentrate delivery systems to augment the feeling as well as the tastes, and tongues built up sensitivities.. and also it's eventual deadening/desensitization to flavors.
As I said this is what I have noticed.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

@530rasta sorry to hear, I've had nothing but good experience with my Dabbler. It takes a bit longer to heat up for the first hit compared to other pens, but to me that just means that the oil heats up gradually and preserves more flavor. The place my Dabbler took in my rotation was as an enail, I would just load a bit on the wick and it made a perfect connection with my pieces like that. For out and about I like my TV Revolution more since it incorporates a dabber as part of the design and is a lot smaller. I didn't notice any electronic smell from my Dabbler or carts... up until I fried my battery. Yep, ran some non-approved items on it and finally the battery gave out. Completely my fault, I knew 100% that it could happen, so I won't even bother with asking for a replacement... but in the beginning of the thread people were arguing about the temp control of it. Pics are worth thousands of words

 

[GetToTheChoppa]

What non approved items were you running Q?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Protank2 with a coil I wrapped myself.

 

[SnaiceOne]

I have a general pen question for people...lotta people saying they're only good for a hit or three so my question has to do with the intended design. There's that space (cavity?) underneath the coil on either side and of course after you cook some tasty oil on the coil what's left inevitably ends up in this space on either side. After those first fresh couple of hits where you put your wax on the coil, now that's gone and the cavity on either side under the coil is full or at least semi full with oil, is the idea now that you're supposed to continue pressing the button and heating up / vaping the oil in the cavities? This is kind of how I've been operating mine, I'm just wondering if that's why it is designed with the recessed area underneath, if that's supposed to be a place for oil to sit and vaporize from of if I should not be inhaling that.

After I got my dab rig I realized how pens are really just something to get by between dabbing sessions, like if you're out and about or whatever, but ultimately pens are quite limited. I'm happy with my dabbler, but at the end of the day I'm still using some piece of electronics to achieve something I can do much more cleanly with a different system (oil rig). If you have this attitude it makes pen use less frustrating.

 

[SlinginPaint]

@SnaiceOne I hold it horizontal and sometimes upside down right after i finish a hit to avoid the pooling of goods at the bottom of the ceramic cup, and will usually flow back into the wick. I will also hit it holding it horizontal or vertical sometimes, seems to do the trick.

Completely agree with your pen usage assessment.

 

[GetToTheChoppa]

Is there a design reason for the ceramic cup being so deep compared to other brands of carts? Im thinking of stuffing some stainless steel screen material down there to take up some space.

 

[SnaiceOne]

Is there a design reason for the ceramic cup being so deep compared to other brands of carts? Im thinking of stuffing some stainless steel screen material down there to take up some space.

Yeah I guess that's what I'm wondering too, is this area supposed to be there to fill up with oil so you can vape it, is this by design?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Is there a design reason for the ceramic cup being so deep compared to other brands of carts? Im thinking of stuffing some stainless steel screen material down there to take up some space.

The airflow for these carts is through the center part where the coil sits, if the ceramic cup were flush then the oil would flow into there and get really messy on the 510 connections.

 

[jon-no-h]

When I am in a "hurry" to pack the dabbler I tend to over pack and seem to go through the issue with filling up the cera bowl and clog that air path. We have found that if your like me and do that then using the cone with the hole in it from the cera core 3 in 1 is a nice fix. I usually hit the pen with the carb open and seem to get great big hits. When I notice its clogged I plug the carb and run the heater for about 3-4sec and pull slightly hard. I tend to hear a small "pop" and back to hitting it with open carb again. The wide open drip tip mouthpiece is also helpful in the increased vapor path to you lips.

 

[VaporMage]

Hi! First post!

I got my Dabbler on Monday - and I must say - it has been a blast getting used to it.

This is one of my first vapor products - but I must say I am thoroughly impressed.

I am not noticing too many burning tastes or anything - and anyone I let try it praises the flavor.

The portability has truly changed my life! haha!
I love it! (thank you VB's)


Otherwise I have a tiny question - I ordered a 3-in-1 ceramic tip - with my dabbler and the original wick - question being - does the ceramic coil take longer to heat up than the glass-fiber coil?

My fiber one heats up quick - I can get a great rip off a 5 second hold.

But the Ceramic one seems to take an upwards of 8-10 seconds to get a decent vape; so what I'll do is hold it for 5 seconds - rest for 2 - then hold for another 5-ish while inhaling the whole time, and it seems to work.

Is this normal??? or did I get a faulty burner?

 

[andintheend0]

I'm in the process of cleaning my ceramic heater for the first time, and I have two questions

1) There is a good bit of dark gunk under the coil. I'm slowly getting it out by putting it upside down on a drop of 91% isopropyl, blotting with paper towel, then re-attaching battery and heating the crap out of it upside-down. Is this bad practice for longevity of my device? Any tips on other ways to get the bottom gunk out?

2) I noticed that the ceramic cup is slightly off-center and that there is residue building up in the resuting space. Is this something to be concerned about?

Thank you!

Hi! First post!

Otherwise I have a tiny question - I ordered a 3-in-1 ceramic tip - with my dabbler and the original wick - question being - does the ceramic coil take longer to heat up than the glass-fiber coil?

My fiber one heats up quick - I can get a great rip off a 5 second hold.

But the Ceramic one seems to take an upwards of 8-10 seconds to get a decent vape; so what I'll do is hold it for 5 seconds - rest for 2 - then hold for another 5-ish while inhaling the whole time, and it seems to work.

Is this normal??? or did I get a faulty burner?

I don't have a glass heater yet, but I noticed with the ceramic one, the first couple hits were very small then once the wick is saturated the return is great.

 

[SlinginPaint]

I'm in the process of cleaning my ceramic heater for the first time, and I have two questions

1) There is a good bit of dark gunk under the coil. I'm slowly getting it out by putting it upside down on a drop of 91% isopropyl, blotting with paper towel, then re-attaching battery and heating the crap out of it upside-down. Is this bad practice for longevity of my device? Any tips on other ways to get the bottom gunk out?

2) I noticed that the ceramic cup is slightly off-center and that there is residue building up in the resuting space. Is this something to be concerned about?

Thank you!

(1) Yes burning the ISO into your wick like you are describing should be avoided (you must let it evap by itself) If you burn it off with the coil, you have ruined the coil IMHO. Flavor will never be the same. Buy another one and follow these steps to clean your coil...

• Put coil upsides down in 1/4" of ISO
• Let coil sit in ISO for 40 min
• Lift coil, and scrub ever so slightly with a toothbrush that you will not use again.. haha
• Let coil soak for another 20 min, scrub lightly again
  
• REPEAT THIS as needed.
• Let cartridge dry for 1 hr or MORE?? MAKE SURE THE COIL SMELLS NOTHING LIKE ISO before you fire it up.

(2) Email VaporWarehouse...

 

[andintheend0]

(1) Yes burning the ISO into your wick like you are describing should be avoided (you must let it evap by itself) If you burn it off with the coil, you have ruined the coil IMHO. Flavor will never be the same. Buy another one and follow these steps to clean your coil...

• Put coil upsides down in 1/4" of ISO
• Let coil sit in ISO for 40 min
• Lift coil, and scrub ever so slightly with a toothbrush that you will not use again.. haha
• Let coil soak for another 20 min, scrub lightly again
  
• REPEAT THIS as needed.
• Let cartridge dry for 1 hr or MORE?? MAKE SURE THE COIL SMELLS NOTHING LIKE ISO before you fire it up.

(2) Email VaporWarehouse...

When you say "ruined the coil" do you just mean taste or that it will break the coil to do so?

 

[SlinginPaint]

Taste is ruined. In my OPINION

 

[andintheend0]

Just making sure that's what you meant. It still tastes ok, but I see what you mean. Not as clean.

I finally got down to where I can see the coil, but its still pretty dirty and coil does not glow red when I push the button. However, it still produces vapor. Maybe I permanently gunked up the coil?

Crap. I think I destroyed it. After the entire cleaning process, I notice that one end of the bar that holds the coil has been pushed further down into the chamber....

Not sure how this happened, I was very careful when cleaning. Either this thing is super fragile or I got a shoddy unit! Either way, I'm a student and won't be affording another one of these anytime soon

 

[Vitolo]

I'm in the process of cleaning my ceramic heater for the first time, and I have two questions

1) There is a good bit of dark gunk under the coil. I'm slowly getting it out by putting it upside down on a drop of 91% isopropyl, blotting with paper towel, then re-attaching battery and heating the crap out of it upside-down. Is this bad practice for longevity of my device? Any tips on other ways to get the bottom gunk out?
Upside down dipping and blotting is great. Heating the crap out of it after is recreating the "scabbing" you are working at eliminating. Cleaning it heat free is how I would go.

2) I noticed that the ceramic cup is slightly off-center and that there is residue building up in the resuting space. Is this something to be concerned about?
No.. no concern there in my opinion

 

[SlinginPaint]

Crap. I think I destroyed it. After the entire cleaning process, I notice that one end of the bar that holds the coil has been pushed further down into the chamber....

Not sure how this happened, I was very careful when cleaning. Either this thing is super fragile or I got a shoddy unit! Either way, I'm a student and won't be affording another one of these anytime soon

Just chalk your first cartridge off to 'the learning process' and grab another one when you can. You've learned alot at this point and I dont think you'll be making the same mistakes.. but who knows. You did choose the right pen though, you can be assured there.

 

[PPN]

Hi Dabblers and Vaporbrother, I want to tell you sorry cause some weeks ago I posted about something dissolved in the alcohol and I thought this was coming from the Dabbler heater I was cleaning and I suspected silicone or glue in the heater, IT WAS MY MISTAKE, today I would to clean something (glass stem) in the same plastic container and the same chimical reaction is happened (milky alcohol bath).

So the lesson is: if you are not sure if your plastic container is safe (with alcohol or something else idk) prefer glass container, they are all the time safe, isn't it?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Hi Dabblers and Vaporbrother, I want to tell you sorry cause some weeks ago I posted about something dissolved in the alcohol and I thought this was coming from the Dabbler heater I was cleaning and I suspected silicone or glue in the heater, IT WAS MY MISTAKE, today I would to clean something (glass stem) in the same plastic container and the same chimical reaction is happened (milky alcohol bath).

So the lesson is: if you are not sure if your plastic container is safe (with alcohol or something else idk) prefer glass container, they are all the time safe, isn't it?

Hey PPN, yes glass will always be safe, except when you are cleaning glass pieces, then be careful not to break anything

 

[jay87]

So I'm thinking about getting a dabbler but I wanted to know about the performance differences between the glass wick heater vs the ceramic rod heater. I also was hoping to get some general usage or cleaning tips from people who've stuck with the dabbler for awhile.

Any input is greatly appreciated!