Vapman

[Pcpvapors]

Well PIU has the "classic" for $72 shipped heavily considering this little guy, would http://www.highpriorityglass.com/br...me-lighter-perfect-for-use-with-health-stone/

Be too much for this?

 

[OF]

Well PIU has the "classic" for $72 shipped heavily considering this little guy, would http://www.highpriorityglass.com/br...me-lighter-perfect-for-use-with-health-stone/

Be too much for this?

Looks like more than you want. Too wide. This is my recommendation, great lighter, great price ($3 shipped). I suggest getting several, very handy and I've yet to break one (lost a couple....):
http://www.dx.com/p/jet-1300-c-butane-lighter-1320#.U1L2iaxmNiI

OF

 

[KidFated.]

Just joined the club thanks to OF's posts. Can't wait to meet this beauty of a vape

 

[Mr Mellish]

Just joined the club thanks to OF's posts. Can't wait to meet this beauty of a vape

I hope you like it. In my small collection, it is the favorite. There is something strangely comforting about the process. Once you get comfortable with applying the flame properly, the little fella produces great effects with little material. Good luck.

 

[OF]

I hope you like it. In my small collection, it is the favorite. There is something strangely comforting about the process. Once you get comfortable with applying the flame properly, the little fella produces great effects with little material. Good luck.

Very well put. It can become a very intimate, personal thing. And very easily. Could lead to problems if you were using it in public.........

You definitely are part of the process, which is cool sometimes.

One thing sure, on a 'joy per dollar spent' basis, Vapman is a clear winner.

OF

 

[axakal]

still torn between this beauty or the lotus to be my flame driven vaporizer of the summer. the decision proves to be not an easy one. i'll probably will end up buying both in the long run, i just don't know which one to buy first.

 

[vorrange]

my suggestion, choose according to size and best hit method. One can be hidden the other cannot. One needs grinding the other does not.

As for the rest, IMO it pretty much evens out.

 

[OF]

still torn between this beauty or the lotus to be my flame driven vaporizer of the summer. the decision proves to be not an easy one. i'll probably will end up buying both in the long run, i just don't know which one to buy first.

my suggestion, choose according to size and best hit method. One can be hidden the other cannot. One needs grinding the other does not.

As for the rest, IMO it pretty much evens out.

Buying both is the only sure solution of course. I agree, performance wise it's pretty much of a push. For me a big part is the 'funky, Steampunk construction' on the Vapman. I had the Lotus first but side by side it seems sterile to me. It started getting lonely soon after the first Vapman came to visit. I enjoyed Vapman so much I bought a second one (the cheaper but just as effective unfinished one from the factory). It sometimes rides in a bag in the trunk of the car in case I decide to visit one of the excellent local parks.

John Muir would no doubt have carried one in his coat pocket exploring the great outdoors. IMO, Vapman 'adds that little something extra' to such sessions. It goes very well with Redwood trees, trust me on this one?

OF

 

[Mr Mellish]

Just joined the club thanks to OF's posts. Can't wait to meet this beauty of a vape

Oh, and another thing. After some testing, I side with those who plug the three vent holes near the mouthpiece (snapped off toothpicks). Give it a try, if you haven't already, and see what you think.

 

[M0J0]

I just LOVE the Vapman.

Like OF said, the Steampunk construction is awesome... The size is just perfect. The price is right for both models, and it's awesome that they offer the unfinished (pure) model for those who can't afford the Mica (or think they can't).

The workmanship is flawless.

There is something very personal about it and I really enjoy the ritual.

Also, when you get the hang of it, it's very, very efficient!

I haven't really thought about buying another vape since I got the hang of the Vapman.

I'm really grateful that Rene invented this awesome tool. I never would have thought about it.

 

[axakal]

how does the vapman actually compare in terms of flavor to the mflb and the lotus? i keep reading about the fantastic flavor of the lotus and complains about the poor flavor of the mflb. while i disagree with the latter, where does the vapman fit in in this small group of similary priced and beautifully crafted devices?

 

[basement farmer]

For me the Vapman has better flavor.

Lotus is a close second.

MFLB, yeah I have one of those too, but I gave up on it after getting into flame based vapes. It never impressed me with flavor.

I'm thinking of trying the tooth pick trick. I've got some kief and reclaim I'm going to play with this weekend.

 

[M0J0]

I'm not a cloud chaser nor a flavor chaser. I guess I'm an "effects and efficiency chaser"?

I don't own a Lotus but I do own an MFLB and Two Vampan.

For some reason, I really dislike dealing with batteries, while most people don't mind this, I'd rather just fill my torch with butane and I'm always instantly ready for action. If my batteries are low, it could mean having to wait an hour or more for a session...

Now, the stealth factor of the MFLB is not easily matched by anything else out there and for the price, it's pretty cheap if this is important for you – which it is not for me at all.

Also, the company and the owner/founder are awesome. Their support is unmatched by anyone else I've dealt with – although the Vapman guys are at a very close second! This is my honest review of dealing with both...

The ritual of the Vapman is such a strong plus point for me that this alone has made me not touch the MFLB since I got the Vapman and fussing over batteries is my next big ticket item.

The Vapman is more like smoking a pipe while the MFLB is like sucking on a milk shake – this is not important to most people though, but a good friend of mine agrees with me on this point after using the vapman, MFLB and a Pinnacle Pro.

The MFLB gives me more visible vapor but uses at least twice the amount of herb than the Vapman. Efficency is another important point for everyone, I bet, so it's another important aspect for me.

I think I would love to own an e-Nano since it's a plug-in – no batteries to fuss over and they say it's very efficient. But is it as efficient as the Vapman?

I find it really hard to buy a Lotus since the Vapman is so awesome... If the Lotus guys would like to send me a free one to test and review, I'd be glad to take one off of their hands. Maybe one with cosmetic defects? Same for an E-Nano.

But to sum up, I would love to test these other vapes but now that I own a Vapman and have learned to use it effectively, I'd rather spend my hard earned ca$h on herb than on more vapes.

Sorry if I rambled...

Peace

 

[FlyingLow]

If you are a torch person, you would love the Lotus- you gotta try it out sometime
Open Minds

 

[M0J0]

If you are a torch person, you would love the Lotus- you gotta try it out sometime
Open Minds

Then I'll have to start saving my pennies unless I get a sponsor. Haha.

 

[axakal]

i don't really care about clouds, as long as the vapor is at least slightly visible. my mind just needs a visiual confirmation of the process. i only have good words for the mflb, the device itself and the people behind it. i didn't get it first, but once i rediscovered it, the box really helped me to convert to vapor only. i'd like to think, that the stealth factor is unbeatable as of now, the only downside is the need to recharge batteries. the PA is of course a game changer in this matter. however, i wanted something as a backup or for the times where you just grab a vape without being worried about the status of your batteries. plus, i wanted something that maybe has a different effect, just for a change.
you say, you're an "effects chaser". are the effects of the two comparable or does the vapman provide a different experience? i'm missing the couch lock effect at times, and i was hoping to achieve it with a flame powered portable.
as for efficiency, i'm with you on this page too. quality herbs are different to come by, and i don't like the fuzz of dealing with the "providers" more than neccessary. it's hard to believe, the vapman is more efficient than the box, but it's good news.
a further point for the vapman would be, that they are based in europe and spare parts are easy to get by, contrary to the lotus.
you should check the vapolution 2.0 thread. it has an all glass air path and some seasoned forum members compare it to a log vape in terms of flavor and efficiency. it's afordably priced and if you ask politely, you might even get a forum member discount.

and a silly question to get back to the vapman, can you hit it in the darkness? i'm not talking about complete black darkness, more like poorly lit house entrance, a corner of a street or a bench in the park at night. as far as i understand, there is not a lot of visual control required while using the vapman. all one has to worry about is not to burn the own fingers or the unit itself, right?

I'm not a cloud chaser nor a flavor chaser. I guess I'm an "effects and efficiency chaser"?

I don't own a Lotus but I do own an MFLB and Two Vampan.

For some reason, I really dislike dealing with batteries, while most people don't mind this, I'd rather just fill my torch with butane and I'm always instantly ready for action. If my batteries are low, it could mean having to wait an hour or more for a session...

Now, the stealth factor of the MFLB is not easily matched by anything else out there and for the price, it's pretty cheap if this is important for you – which it is not for me at all.

Also, the company and the owner/founder are awesome. Their support is unmatched by anyone else I've dealt with – although the Vapman guys are at a very close second! This is my honest review of dealing with both...

The ritual of the Vapman is such a strong plus point for me that this alone has made me not touch the MFLB since I got the Vapman and fussing over batteries is my next big ticket item.

The Vapman is more like smoking a pipe while the MFLB is like sucking on a milk shake – this is not important to most people though, but a good friend of mine agrees with me on this point after using the vapman, MFLB and a Pinnacle Pro.

The MFLB gives me more visible vapor but uses at least twice the amount of herb than the Vapman. Efficency is another important point for everyone, I bet, so it's another important aspect for me.

I think I would love to own an e-Nano since it's a plug-in – no batteries to fuss over and they say it's very efficient. But is it as efficient as the Vapman?

I find it really hard to buy a Lotus since the Vapman is so awesome... If the Lotus guys would like to send me a free one to test and review, I'd be glad to take one off of their hands. Maybe one with cosmetic defects? Same for an E-Nano.

But to sum up, I would love to test these other vapes but now that I own a Vapman and have learned to use it effectively, I'd rather spend my hard earned ca$h on herb than on more vapes.

Sorry if I rambled...

Peace

 

[basement farmer]

You should have plenty illumination to see what you're doing with the torch.

It does require a little focus and dexterity, but isn't that big of a deal.

 

[hoyo77]

i don't really care about clouds, as long as the vapor is at least slightly visible. my mind just needs a visiual confirmation of the process. i only have good words for the mflb, the device itself and the people behind it. i didn't get it first, but once i rediscovered it, the box really helped me to convert to vapor only. i'd like to think, that the stealth factor is unbeatable as of now, the only downside is the need to recharge batteries. the PA is of course a game changer in this matter. however, i wanted something as a backup or for the times where you just grab a vape without being worried about the status of your batteries. plus, i wanted something that maybe has a different effect, just for a change.
you say, you're an "effects chaser". are the effects of the two comparable or does the vapman provide a different experience? i'm missing the couch lock effect at times, and i was hoping to achieve it with a flame powered portable.
as for efficiency, i'm with you on this page too. quality herbs are different to come by, and i don't like the fuzz of dealing with the "providers" more than neccessary. it's hard to believe, the vapman is more efficient than the box, but it's good news.
a further point for the vapman would be, that they are based in europe and spare parts are easy to get by, contrary to the lotus.
you should check the vapolution 2.0 thread. it has an all glass air path and some seasoned forum members compare it to a log vape in terms of flavor and efficiency. it's afordably priced and if you ask politely, you might even get a forum member discount.

and a silly question to get back to the vapman, can you hit it in the darkness? i'm not talking about complete black darkness, more like poorly lit house entrance, a corner of a street or a bench in the park at night. as far as i understand, there is not a lot of visual control required while using the vapman. all one has to worry about is not to burn the own fingers or the unit itself, right?

Pretty much...although you are not a cloud chaser, the vapman will produce some nice clouds.

Then I'll have to start saving my pennies unless I get a sponsor. Haha.

the lotus, vapman, and the hammer are 3 of the best torch based vapes out there. All 3 hit good, produce nice clouds and the taste is amazing.

 

[axakal]

I understand. But i don't have to pay attention to a change in color as with the lotus, right? I bet, some of you can hit the vapman blindfolded

You should have plenty illumination to see what you're doing with the torch.

It does require a little focus and dexterity, but isn't that big of a deal.

 

[KidFated.]

Sounds sketchy^

 

[basement farmer]

I understand. But i don't have to pay attention to a change in color as with the lotus, right? I bet, some of you can hit the vapman blindfolded

You won't get a glow like you can with the Lotus.

The Vapman is more "heat and draw" until you get vapor. It probably takes a little more practice...which is part of the fun. The Lotus is more sensory driven (taste, and heat)...unless you are using glass in which case it becomes visual as well.

I personally have found it to be not that easy to combust with either piece. And when it does happen, it's because I'm day dreaming instead of focusing on the task at hand.

For a non-cloud chaser who doesn't have an outrageous tolerance, the Vapman would work fine as a primary vaporizor. Mine definately has it's place in the quiver.

 

[M0J0]

Axakal,

I bet I could use theVapman blindfolded so maybe the light of the torch would be enough for me to use it correctly in the dark and not burn myself. Of course loading it in the dark wouldn't fly at all.

I noticed a difference in the type of high with the Vapman vs the MFLB. I can't put it in words, but maybe it's headier with the Vapman? I like the Vapman effect better, but a friend of mine that has both didn't feel a real difference, and I think it's something to do with the heat.

Lately Instarted torching the VM more aggressively (at the edge of combustion) and am getting a real strong Couch Lock now! So I bet you would get it if you did the same thing.

The only negative point with the VM is the learning curve. It takes some time to learn to hit it just right but once you do, it becomes second nature and you do it right every time without thinking. I did Not get a good effect with the VM at first, but after about a month of usage I was getting awesome effects and couch lock every time. Mr. Melish said something on a post, I believe.

I would advise a new user to use about 1/2 a bowl or less a few times while experimenting and once you get the technique down, then a whole bowl will blow you away. This will save on herb supplies. I haven't needed more than one bowl for a while.

I'm with you about the MFLB, the unit and the company. They both rock. The price is right for it too. And a friend of mine has been using it at home for years without his wife ever even suspecting about any "foul play" – Now that's stealth! Like I said before, batteries are just "un-natural" to me. I'm more in tune with a torch lighter.

The Vapman fits my personality so well it's awesome. Like they made it just for me!

Thanks for the info on the vapolution 2.0. I'll look into it.

Modnote: Back to back posts merged.

By the way, in case this helps a VM newbie...

I torch it more aggressively now – dancing at the edge of combustion – and draw at least 10 times on a bowl.

I keep hitting it until it starts tasting burnt – I want to get as much out of a bowl as I can, sacrificing taste for effect.

But I know it well enough that I don't have to peek at the herb to know what's happening in there.

I feel the heady effects a bit before it starts tasting burnt – maybe about 3 draws before this?

EDIT: If you don't want Couch Lock, don't be so aggressive with the torch (keep it cooler). You may not even get visible vapor and you may get more than 10 draws and it may never taste burnt. This will give you a good heady effect with almost no Couch Lock.

It was very surprising to me that I could get so many draws out of each bowl. It's awesome.

Practice is fun, but herb is expensive... Still, practice, practice, practice....

 

[Seren]

I torch it more aggressively now....... but I know it well enough that I don't have to peek at the herb to know what's happening in there...

Like you, I also started off being a little too careful with the heat - I got results on first use - but nowhere near the quality of vapour I was able to produce after a little practice and familiarisation. Practice certainly makes perfect

Anyone else have trouble keeping the plastic mouth piece in place? I'm wondering if the wooden ones would stay on better... They sure look better...

Can't say that I have - but the plastic piece only comes out for friends - I prefer the taste and feel of the wooden mouthpieces - the ebony is my favourite and it looks great!

....can you hit it in the darkness? i'm not talking about complete black darkness, more like poorly lit house entrance, a corner of a street or a bench in the park at night. as far as i understand, there is not a lot of visual control required while using the vapman. all one has to worry about is not to burn the own fingers or the unit itself, right?

I've used mine plenty of times in the dark with no problems. The flame gives off enough light for you so see what you're doing.

 

[hoyo77]

Due to my lack of combustion control using the Lotus — I have been getting the bad surprise too frequently. So the lotus is going in the drawer in favor of the Vapman as my new daily driver. The VM has never combusted on me ever so combustion is not a problem.

By-the-way I don't blame the Lotus for the too occasional combustion only my limited Lotus skills. The truth is I love the Vapman more than my Lotus I am beginning to think.

can you milk it like the lotus?

 

[1_gr8_underdog]

Thank you @steama and everyone for helping me decide on my newest flame based. My SV#2 thermostat went again and I was able to pick up this vape for $35 more than a replacement thermo. What lighter should I be looking at? I only have a torch. So, I will need a good lighter? Or will my torch work for a little? Is it to much? Thanks everyone. O' yea I got the Classic version with the mica shield and the Blue egg.
I had it between the lotus and Vapman. The last few pages of posts + the price point swayed me to choose the Vapman.