SolidAirrr
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Managed to create some patina on my Click.
Anyone else's pan looks like this? Any concerns?
Anyone else's pan looks like this? Any concerns?
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el sargantano
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Oxidizing copper?Managed to create some patina on my Click.
Anyone else's pan looks like this? Any concerns?
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
That's not good if that's the case. My understanding was that the bowl is copper but it's gold plated to prevent any oxidation? Maybe that's just baked on resin and the oil is refracting the light in that pic?
LookaSquirrel
cannabinerd
Got shown a Click today and tested it.
To be honest, the quality is not there yet. Had the same problems as in the review i posted few days ago. It felt a bit cheap to me with those rattling noodles. Also the pan wasn`t gilded like in previous models.
But i'm sure inhale will take that feedback and update their product.
To be honest, the quality is not there yet. Had the same problems as in the review i posted few days ago. It felt a bit cheap to me with those rattling noodles. Also the pan wasn`t gilded like in previous models.
But i'm sure inhale will take that feedback and update their product.
hotmeals
Serial vapist
Rattling noodles? Pan not gilded? Are you sure this was a genuine and properly cared for Vapman? If so, definitely defective.
SolidAirrr
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Why?...
Na, no resin, I'm pretty sure it's an oxidation.
As René himself wrote the gold was just introduced for aesthetic purposes. However I'm surprised the gold plating didn't "block" it as I obviously didn't scratch it off or cleaned with anything that would (just iso and qtip/paper). As in one of my earlier posts the gold was just coming off/doesn't really stick to the ring around the pole's bottom which is stainless steel as well as from the (copper?) pin's top (also visible in my last picture)
At least with the pin I'd be super surprised if it was any different with other (click only) owners.
I'm pretty sure just me blowing at the heated (open) pan caused this.
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The plating on the center pole's nipple of my click wore really quick as well. But that's the only part, where there's the most friction with the stainless steel filter. It does wear in the same spots on my Swiss units but over a much longer period of time. According to M&D, the gold plating is still executed by the same shop that did the Swiss units back then, so it could be an issue of surface finish before plating...
And the colors of the pan look really funky. I've never seen this before and copper oxydes don't gives these colors...
Edit : could you try a baking soda pasta clean overnight ? It should get rid of the oxides, if these colors are indeed oxides.
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SolidAirrr
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What else could it be?
After a quick research I applied some Ketchup
to one third of the pan and let it sit for a couple minutes.Not easy to capture but it got rid of most of the colours.
Kinda cleaned part
Other part for reference in same lighting
SolidAirrr
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Normal, I'd say.
Do you also have those chipped of parts on the ring below the pin?
Nope.
And I've removed the circlip twice so even handling didn't damaged the plating.
Hello my friend with the copper pan. Is it possible that you overheated the vapman for a lot? This normally only happens when you heat it for waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long…
Please reach out to info@nowinhale.com and we will help you out.
We’d like to address a concern that has come up regarding the copper pan in the Vapman Click, especially in cases where small areas of the gold plating may wear off over time and expose the underlying copper.
Here’s the key fact: Copper does not release any harmful vapors at 300°C. It only begins to melt at 1,085°C and would require even higher temperatures to produce any fumes. At 300°C, the copper surface might form a light oxide layer, but this is completely stable and non-toxic when heated.
Even if tiny areas of the gold layer are abraded, this poses no health risk. The exposed copper surface is minimal, the pan is very small (just 1.8g), and it is only heated for short durations during use. There is no direct flame contact with the copper and no release of copper particles. For context, copper is even used in food-grade cookware and piping.
In short:
The Vapman Click’s gold-plated copper pan is 100% safe to use, even if small spots of copper become visible. There is absolutely no risk at the operating temperatures of this device.
We’re always happy to be transparent and answer questions, but we hope this clears up the concern so everyone can simply enjoy the experience.
Please reach out to info@nowinhale.com and we will help you out.
We’d like to address a concern that has come up regarding the copper pan in the Vapman Click, especially in cases where small areas of the gold plating may wear off over time and expose the underlying copper.
Here’s the key fact: Copper does not release any harmful vapors at 300°C. It only begins to melt at 1,085°C and would require even higher temperatures to produce any fumes. At 300°C, the copper surface might form a light oxide layer, but this is completely stable and non-toxic when heated.
Even if tiny areas of the gold layer are abraded, this poses no health risk. The exposed copper surface is minimal, the pan is very small (just 1.8g), and it is only heated for short durations during use. There is no direct flame contact with the copper and no release of copper particles. For context, copper is even used in food-grade cookware and piping.
In short:
The Vapman Click’s gold-plated copper pan is 100% safe to use, even if small spots of copper become visible. There is absolutely no risk at the operating temperatures of this device.
We’re always happy to be transparent and answer questions, but we hope this clears up the concern so everyone can simply enjoy the experience.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
We're not supposed to discuss materials safety in these threads but to answer your question, I've read that copper oxides are toxic. I don't remember the exact reasons and conditions, sorry.
SolidAirrr
Well-Known Member
Thanks for your reply.
I honestly don't think I overheated for waaay too long... though I'm not sure how long that would be. Before seeing the colours I had had heated it several times, at max ~2 seconds past the click and reheated only after it clicked back. There was definitely no let's say 20+seconds continuous heating or anything like that.
Will definitely reach out via mail. And hope it's okay I've replied again here for now.
Would be interested what happens there, when overheated, but maybe that's also not for here.
The vapman thread is an exception. The copper subject comes back every now and then and René then M&D always discuss openly about it.
Can you tell us what kind of wood finish is used for the vapman?
SolidAirrr
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LookaSquirrel
cannabinerd
Well, his Click is just 3 weeks old. He took good care and owns a V1 Vapman that doesn't have this issues.
And as described a few posts earlier in this thread, the plating on the center came off.
As we've seen Inhale takes good care about this issues. So i'm pretty confident they will do in his case, too.
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hotmeals
Serial vapist
You were referring to the same Vapman again? The way you worded the post I replied to made it sound like it was a different Vapman and the pan was never gilded at all. No matter, you're right, I'm sure they'll take care of it.
Cheebsy
Fermentation Fiend
Since this information is pretty old, does anyone know if the layer of zinc is still used in modern vapman?
Referencing copper pipes is pointless imo, the only time they get hot enough is when being soldered. Referencing copper cookware is also pointless as these days copper is never in contact with the food, there is always a layer of stainless in between until you look at historical pots.
I think there's no other way to bond gold to copper but I might be wrong...
Even back then I think they were tin-plated ?
LowerBridge
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Just realized I didn't add the download linkHad fun doing this one
A2 posters HQ download if someone wants to print them
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Hagbard
How Soon Is Now?
may i use them as a banner for the official facebook group?Just realized I didn't add the download link
for the A2 posters download if someone wants to print them
LowerBridge
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Yes, feel free to use them
