Oxidizing copper?
That's not good if that's the case. My understanding was that the bowl is copper but it's gold plated to prevent any oxidation? Maybe that's just baked on resin and the oil is refracting the light in that pic?Oxidizing copper?
Rattling noodles? Pan not gilded? Are you sure this was a genuine and properly cared for Vapman? If so, definitely defective.Got shown a Click today and tested it.
To be honest, the quality is not there yet. Had the same problems as in the review i posted few days ago. It felt a bit cheap to me with those rattling noodles. Also the pan wasn`t gilded like in previous models.
But i'm sure inhale will take that feedback and update their product.
Why?...That's not good if that's the case
Na, no resin, I'm pretty sure it's an oxidation.My understanding was that the bowl is copper but it's gold plated to prevent any oxidation? Maybe that's just baked on resin and the oil is refracting the light in that pic?
The plating on the center pole's nipple of my click wore really quick as well. But that's the only part, where there's the most friction with the stainless steel filter. It does wear in the same spots on my Swiss units but over a much longer period of time. According to M&D, the gold plating is still executed by the same shop that did the Swiss units back then, so it could be an issue of surface finish before plating...At least with the pin I'd be super surprised if it was any different with other (click only) owners.
I'm pretty sure just me blowing at the heated (open) pan caused this.
Normal, I'd say.How does the Pan look like on the outside?
Do you also have those chipped of parts on the ring below the pin?The plating on the center pole's nipple of my click wore really quick as well.
Nope.Do you also have those chipped of parts on the ring below the pin?
We're not supposed to discuss materials safety in these threads but to answer your question, I've read that copper oxides are toxic. I don't remember the exact reasons and conditions, sorry.Why?...
Hello my friend with the copper pan. Is it possible that you overheated the vapman for a lot? This normally only happens when you heat it for waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long…
The vapman thread is an exception. The copper subject comes back every now and then and René then M&D always discuss openly about it.We're not supposed to discuss materials safety in these threads
Can you tell us what kind of wood finish is used for the vapman?We’re always happy to be transparent and answer questions, but we hope this clears up the concern so everyone can simply enjoy the experience.
Would be interested what happens there, when overheated...
The Gold only flakes off at 600°C/1112°F, this is three times the temperature needed for vaporizing botanicals. Therefore you have to heat up more than three times (because the heat radiation also increases) longer than normally needed! This doesn`t happen by accident. The gold flakes off because of the very thin layer of zinc between the gold and the copper. Zinc has not the same heat expansion factor as copper and at high temperatures it starts to flake off. Without the zinc layer, the gold coating would diffuse in to the copper.
Well, his Click is just 3 weeks old. He took good care and owns a V1 Vapman that doesn't have this issues.Rattling noodles? Pan not gilded? Are you sure this was a genuine and properly cared for Vapman? If so, definitely defective.
...without a doubt in my mind whatsoever. One thing I know for certain is that David, Michael, and Rene are men of integrity. They are really caring in every way.Well, his Click is just 3 weeks old. He took good care and owns a V1 Vapman that doesn't have this issues.
And as described a few posts earlier in this thread, the plating on the center came off.
As we've seen Inhale takes good care about this issues. So i'm pretty confident they will do in his case, too.
You were referring to the same Vapman again? The way you worded the post I replied to made it sound like it was a different Vapman and the pan was never gilded at all. No matter, you're right, I'm sure they'll take care of it.Well, his Click is just 3 weeks old. He took good care and owns a V1 Vapman that doesn't have this issues.
And as described a few posts earlier in this thread, the plating on the center came off.
As we've seen Inhale takes good care about this issues. So i'm pretty confident they will do in his case, too.
Since this information is pretty old, does anyone know if the layer of zinc is still used in modern vapman?The gold flakes off because of the very thin layer of zinc between the gold and the copper.
For context, copper is even used in food-grade cookware and piping.
I think there's no other way to bond gold to copper but I might be wrong...Since this information is pretty old, does anyone know if the layer of zinc is still used in modern vapman?
Even back then I think they were tin-plated ?Referencing copper cookware is also pointless as these days copper is never in contact with the food, there is always a layer of stainless in between until you look at historical pots
Just realized I didn't add the download linkHad fun doing this one
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may i use them as a banner for the official facebook group?Just realized I didn't add the download link
for the A2 posters download if someone wants to print them
Yes, feel free to use themmay i use them as a banner for the official facebook group?