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OF

OF

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ChippyMalone said:
I think crucible is a great word.

I can dig it
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Neat sounding word for sure, but technically inaccurate.

It's simply not a crucible by the conventional definition:

http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/crucible
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crucible
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/crucible
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crucible
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/crucible
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/crucible

We have neither chemical reactions nor 'extremely high heat' going on. And, IMO, the secondary definition, 'an extremely difficult experience' is way way wide of the mark?

We're cooking herb here, I'd suggest a name from the kitchen not a foundry or Material Science lab. Any more than I'd call a tea kettle a boiler (which is, I think, closer).

OF
 
RUDE BOY

RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
Yeah OF, seems there could be a little mix up here and there with the Cauldron being called a crucible in some alchemists lore.

But You never know being magic speak and all, i've come across people who also call a mortar and pestle a crucible.
:shrug: IDKW

I baked up a couple pans full of sweet cannabic goodness now before bedtime using the station set around 2 1/2, very nice being able to do silent sessions now after midnight on the patio when it's dead silent in the neighborhood. (felt kinda magic like)

:tup:
 
M0J0

M0J0

I am a leaf on the wind ~ watch how I soar...
Magic:

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/vessel.html

The Crucible is essentially an open vessel, a dish, a mortar, or a cauldron, open to the outside world yet capable of containing material. Substances and energy patterns can be put into the crucible and be acted upon by some agent, and some part of this substance can also be drawn off or removed so enacting a kind of purification. This is often pictured as taking place through the application of heat. In outer terms, an ore is placed in the crucible, which is then heated, the metal forms itself out of the ore and various impurities are given off into the air, or a slag is skimmed off the surface of the metal. Thus the primal substance, the ore, is transformed into new pure metal.
 
ChippyMalone

ChippyMalone

Be here now.
Accessory Maker
Some people say this is the Chinese year of the goat. Others say sheep. Others say Ram.

In the end, they have a word that means Ram-sheep-goat to describe a more general type of animal that doesn't translate into English in a meaningful way.

Also, various professions use words in their own way. A silversmith using a saw to cut a piece of sheet metal would tell you he was "piercing it". Why? I have no idea.

I think we are up against a similar language barrier here......

But like Supreme Court justice Potter Stewart, when asked to define hard core pornogeaphy said it was hard to define but "I know it when I see it.".

Perhaps this un-named vessel is unique and not really comparable to previously existing vessels?

Edit: I'm. Clearly real y high. But I stand by my highness. Blame it on the station.
 
HellsWindStaff

HellsWindStaff

Dharma Initiate
I think crucible is appropriate, people get stoned in The Crucible and we get stoned off a crucible!

Edit: In all seriousness, learned something new as I had never heard the word crucible used in that way; always think of cauldrons when it comes to melting stuff together magically.
 
OF

OF

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HellsWindStaff said:
always think of cauldrons when it comes to melting stuff together magically.
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Yeah, me too. Cauldrons inspire thoughts of great iron pots with wood fire licking up the sides and old ladies with black road cones on their heads and brooms and stuff. Fun, but different than VM I'm thinking. Or maybe it was a prototype?

An VM lore is short on magic chants. AFAIK the only documented one is "Oh, wow!"......which seems to be covering that base? "Very nice" might be a runner up?

OF
 
Nugg

Nugg

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I have always called it a bowl rather than a crucible.

It seems that in America when you are talking about a bowl in relation to cannabis you are meaning the bowl in which you combust with a water pipe. In Australia we call it a cone piece and we smoke 'cones' (mulled up one hitters) rather than 'bowls' (just jam a bud in there and hit it a few times and tip the ash out?).

So I could see some not wanting to call it a bowl for that reason? Or the other side of the coin, call it a bowl for nostalgia - 'Just polished off a few bowls in the vapman' - 'Hey babe, just heading out to the shed for a couple bowls'

Either way, once @vapman makes a call on it, I'll use his term!
 
natural farmer

natural farmer

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Crucible or cone, bowl or cradle of life, it has just been loaded and ready to send me to an even nicer place! Oh my, what a hedonist I have become… :razz:

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vapman

vapman

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Nugg said:
I have always called it a bowl rather than a crucible.

It seems that in America when you are talking about a bowl in relation to cannabis you are meaning the bowl in which you combust with a water pipe. In Australia we call it a cone piece and we smoke 'cones' (mulled up one hitters) rather than 'bowls' (just jam a bud in there and hit it a few times and tip the ash out?).

So I could see some not wanting to call it a bowl for that reason? Or the other side of the coin, call it a bowl for nostalgia - 'Just polished off a few bowls in the vapman' - 'Hey babe, just heading out to the shed for a couple bowls'

Either way, once @vapman makes a call on it, I'll use his term!
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I always called it "Heizpfanne" in German, "heating pan" would be the equivalent name in English. Now, I can imagine that "heating pan" does not sound very cool and appropriate as a name for this object, therefore I have to leave it up to you people on this forum to decide on the name.
I personally like "crucible" but used mostly the name "bowl" when communicating with english speaking persons. I used bowl because most of the clients, mainly from the US, called it bowl and I simply followed. Because it is a type of bowl, even a bowl has normally not a stem in the center, I think bowl is not really wrong. Crucible translated into German is "Schmelztiegel", this is a pot for melting stuff in it, like metals for instance. I like crucible (melting pot) even it is technically incorrect as it is not really used for melting stuff but it has that touch of alchemy and middle age when nobody had a clue about chemistry and nobody understood what is happening in a melting pot. Bowl is rational and clear, crucible leaves room for interpretation, imagination, magic, the unknown and the unexplainable, this is probably why I like that name in connection with vapman. Technically it is a wok with a center pole.:D


Cheers,

vapman
 
M0J0

M0J0

I am a leaf on the wind ~ watch how I soar...
I like crucible because of the same reasons that René mentioned, but mostly because of the Alchemy connection - even if it's not real or correct.

@OF, you definitely give us the very knowledgeable and clear technical information on many important points related to the vapman, materials and vaping in general. I appreciate it very much, so don't take any of my comments as dissing your input. I just like to sometimes give you the other, fanciful viewpoint of the "magical" side,to kinda "mess with you" but in a good humored way.

Sometimes it's good to blame magic for some things. ;)
 
mixchu69

mixchu69

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vapman said:
I always called it "Heizpfanne" in German, "heating pan" would be the equivalent name in English. Now, I can imagine that "heating pan" does not sound very cool and appropriate as a name for this object, therefore I have to leave it up to you people on this forum to decide on the name.
I personally like "crucible" but used mostly the name "bowl" when communicating with english speaking persons. I used bowl because most of the clients, mainly from the US, called it bowl and I simply followed. Because it is a type of bowl, even a bowl has normally not a stem in the center, I think bowl is not really wrong. Crucible translated into German is "Schmelztiegel", this is a pot for melting stuff in it, like metals for instance. I like crucible (melting pot) even it is technically incorrect as it is not really used for melting stuff but it has that touch of alchemy and middle age when nobody had a clue about chemistry and nobody understood what is happening in a melting pot. Bowl is rational and clear, crucible leaves room for interpretation, imagination, magic, the unknown and the unexplainable, this is probably why I like that name in connection with vapman. Technically it is a wok with a center pole.:D


Cheers,

vapman
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Hi vapman,

When do you expect your second batch of heating stations to be available for sale?
 
bounce5

bounce5

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simpleasthcis said:
Nice scuff (kief) @natural farmer the vapegg makes a great mini sifter, fill the top put in put in a ball bearing and screen between, into the freezer for two hrs then shake :cool:

"Don't eat the box to taste the pizza"
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@simpleasthcis I always ask you the same question... so here I go again...how did you make that mouthpiece? What is that glass piece from? I'm just fascinated with different mouthpieces For the Vapman and impressed w/ your ingenuity.
 
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