Hello ! I bough mine on 11-2012 . I´m new to vaporizing and FC "life saver" forum. I´ll make a long post with pictures and detailed review with lot´s lot´s of negative sides of this device soon. Thank you veteran users for making an hero effort to advice about the Vapir troubles. I´m on pg nº 58 of this thread, it´s been a few days of reading ALL, but I wanted to put my voice to be heard, and I´ll finish soon reading all of it.
My rubber also melted, the one that separates chamber from plastic body. After reading and seeing some photos I now an sure what happened, and smoked those fumes a long time. Yes it´s friday, I´m page 58 and I need to take a weekend break, so expect more posts with material, and pros and cons (I truly cannot believe ppl say it´s all perfect and have no things that they would suggest for making the device better).
I took the pictures today to send to Vapir, as they quickly replied by email, as I said I´ll post it here, and a long objective review. I bought it from ebay for $99 (from ThorzThunder seller) , I did not knew that it could be a ´fake ´unit or an ´out of series´ .
Ktx49 on post #1326 on page 54 took some pictures of what I believe is the rubber that melted down on the walls of this device. I do believe that some of my theories about why that happend may be true, I rethinked about this over and over and over and over. Could be that herb material get stucked (clog) on below and uppers screens (thricromes + fine grinded herb?), since it´s fine grinded (on serveral previous post and engenieer said that he avoided grinding, or did not grind at all, so no clog could occur, I see why now), then as heat cannot get out because there is not air flow, herb makes an wall because it´s more powdered, it builds pressure and could make temperature rise to the point that we see ppl telling that the herb gets burned really fast, or at during point on their session, as happened to me some times (very rare, like 15 times or more). That should not occur even on 204ºC ! Why ? Because I vaporized from 180ºC up to gradually to 204ºC, and did not get black burned herb. It´s a rare event. And that burning occurred sometimes with No2 been set in low temps as 186ºC. So that COULD prove it´s not a temperature issue problem. The herb becomes black really black and taste and smell is horrible. That could be the cause that some ppl pointed out that they taste burnt. Could be that nothing melted, but that suposedly air stuck problem is happening making herbs burns, and the most warning issue eventually making rubber or internal components melt. Also, I noticed that when that burning occurs, the screens become really dark, and are very very hard to clean. A white smoke comes out when this occurs, it´s not vapor ! This is a really important issue on the project, aside this REALLY SCARY issue, I will describe others that could be improved in resumed points and not a lenghty text as this. This has led me to thinks it´s not an issue related to warranty, authorizer dealer, but a bad project, and may be may be , bad quality materials. I see why some members on this post are cautious about plastic / rubber parts.
So I don´t recommend it, I plan getting as soon as I can another home based unit and a new portable.
I´ll like to thank Iwien and few others, but specially him, for doing the reminder about Vapir previous products. Also those, sorry cannot remind, that posted the pics and warned about that rubber melt. At first I was getting really angry with Iwien being so picky about the company, now I understand why this forum is SO important and also why that type of ´reminder´ should never go off. I do know my unit is not from an authorizer dealer, a few months ago I new nothing about vaporizing (I quit smoking !!! ) or autorized dealer, but I bet Vapir can at least search in ebay for ´no2´ and see this Thorz is an Topseller, his product appear as first in the list.
So...as Vitolo pointed out, what is the deal with this warranty ? Could it be that some units had cheap materials and then troubles began to happen, so as someone sugested on previous posts, the ´China´ factory sold the ´trouble´ units to some vendors around the globe ? I see also a lot of negative comments on China made products, let´s also remind that we can get amazing quality products from there, and we get. Remember on Europe, recently, that meat from horses sent to great vendors, sold as if it was cattle meat.
Some commented on previous posts, that this forum means nothing to vapor companies, cursed be the ones that don´t read this forum, it has so much material ! See what the girl from VAPIR replied, then understand why CRM (consumer ralationship management) IS SO IMPORTANT to make a company reliable.
I hope to further contribute with my review on my new units, as soon as I read more, ask questions of what new vapes I should get. Thinking of EQ (cannot afford volcano and do not like the bag idea) and Solo , but I´ll have to read a lot, so it will take some time to place my order. I´ll post pictures + review + diagrams . Furthermore a video on youtube with all of that.
Sorry if I do make any grammatical mistake, I´m living in Brasil, so, portuguese and spanish (born in Argentina) is my ´safer ground´.
p.s.: vaporizing is great ! I cannot smoke anymore, i converted like more than 10 ppl to buy a vaporizer, now I´ll reach each one just to tell them about possible problems with this device.