Vaping in "adult life"

[TheFatBastard]

@TheFatBastard Interesting thread you started here. I enjoyed reading your and others thoughts. I too am a father in my 40s. My wife is actually anti-cannabis and hasn't gotten over that all drugs are bad mantra we had beat into us in our youth. Her anti-cannabis stance definitely increases the issues. I am a medical user, but I also enjoy the recreational benefits as well. I generally only vape each night after the family is in bed. You're not alone in worrying about productivity and downtime, but I've concluded it's worth it to take time to enjoy life.

Thanks buddy! Well, my wife had kind of that "mantra" too, guess we all do somehow, but I'm lucky she is quite smart too, she went to college and have a MBA (just like me) and so, after explaining the evidence, showing her medical and scientific articles, etc, etc she enjoys Cannabis with me when she wants some relax or have a good time too, most times when we are "kids free" . I'm sure that if you try to show your wife cannabis is what it is, not what we were told it is, she will be more open to the idea of cannabis as a wonderful tool.

One of the reasons I started this thread was because I think we all 80's kids (the ones that are around 40 right now) were educated in that "all drugs are bad" mantra, so even being educated and having a critical thought, that mantra still resonates in your head in some way, like religion or other things we have grown with. The Cannabis legalization / culture had "just" exploded and is kinda of a blast for us, making us sometimes feel bad for enjoying it somehow.

 

[vapirtoo]

I'm 67 retired and vape everyday. I hate our culture that makes me feel guilty
if I vape in front of a child, but I can drink whatever with no guilt.
Yes we drink water and juice so drinking alcohol looks the same.
Pipe smoking was cool for technicians in the 40's, so why does my
Launch Box seem so out of place at a family gathering?
I'm glad that my kids are grown, and I can vape where and when I want.

 

[Tzaney]

I am 55 and have smoked since I was 16 years old. About a year ago I was turned into vaping flower and that removed the last concern I had with cannabis....smoking.

I am a Chemical Engineer with a Biotech firm that challenges me to the extent that I must remain sober before and during work.....otherwise I keep a steady buzz while doing all other activities. Why? Interesting question that has come up during the hella long lines at my local dispensary. The reasons vary from pain medication to artistic inspiration, but I do it because it makes everything (and everybody) more interesting.

I would consider myself "successful" in that I am content, in a long lasting and loving relationship, grown loving kids, and relatively healthy. All while being a degenerate pot head. The secret is to never shirk your responsibilities. Really kind of obvious.

 

[YaMon]

I am 55 and have smoked since I was 16 years old. About a year ago I was turned into vaping flower and that removed the last concern I had with cannabis....smoking.

I am a Chemical Engineer with a Biotech firm that challenges me to the extent that I must remain sober before and during work.....otherwise I keep a steady buzz while doing all other activities. Why? Interesting question that has come up during the hella long lines at my local dispensary. The reasons vary from pain medication to artistic inspiration, but I do it because it makes everything (and everybody) more interesting.

I would consider myself "successful" in that I am content, in a long lasting and loving relationship, grown loving kids, and relatively healthy. All while being a degenerate pot head. The secret is to never shirk your responsibilities. Really kind of obvious.

Welcome to FC @Tzaney!!

 

[TheThriftDrifter]

but I do it because it makes everything (and everybody) more interesting.

word.

 

[TheFatBastard]

word.

Totally agree. I'm trying to find the balance between "vape everyday and have a more "mild" effect (call it tolerance if you want) or space my vape days looking for a more strong / enjoyable effects.

This comes from my search of a better "high": http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/why-cant-i-get-the-same-high-than-i-used-to-get.29291/

 

[Tzaney]

Totally agree. I'm trying to find the balance between "vape everyday and have a more "mild" effect (call it tolerance if you want) or space my vape days looking for a more strong / enjoyable effects.

This comes from my search of a better "high": http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/why-cant-i-get-the-same-high-than-i-used-to-get.29291/

I have found vaping Hemp Flower at the start of the day has helped my tolerances. It has also reversed the swelling in my legs that I was worried about.

 

[Madri-Gal]

@TheFatBastard , if you'd likevto think on it, your cannabis time could indirectly help you be more productive. You might get a concept for an album, book, etc. You might get a certain insight. You might reflect, and start getting some of the wisdom that starts showing up at around 40. It's also not unheard of, at around 40, to start enjoying smaller, simpler moments. I like sitting and watching squirrels and birds at the feeders when I drink coffee in the morning. It's a quiet time to think and not think. It's a gift to be able to find or create such wonderful moments. That's part of what your hard work has been for. Don't underestimate the negative messages we were given about cannabis, and, well, pretty much anything except producing and consuming. I love the idea of you relaxing and listening to records. That tells me much is right in your world.
I explain things terribly, but want to say, enjoy your time to relax.

 

[vapirtoo]

Hey Madri-Gal
I just signed on hoping to see how you are fairing, and I pleased to see you on board and as insightful as ever.
At 67 the small natural things that most people never notice sometimes fascinate me. Water running into a drain, birds fighting in the hedge , all types of things.
Quiet observation, enhanced with our favorite herb.

 

[CANtalk]

I'm one as well who needs to be sober, sharp and productive during typically challenging work weeks... and for the last while I've been seeking to optimize the cannabis life balance. I'm envious of those who can enjoy vaping more often, so lucky . The microdosing thread is just one resource, but it was helpful to me personally in seeking balance, http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/micro-dosing.19915/. Everyone is different so YMMV... enjoy the journey. One bonus of regular breaks is that I get "big" effects when I vape .

It's great to see all the feedback and support here. Cheers and have a great weekend. TGIF!

 

[TheThriftDrifter]

At 67 the small natural things that most people never notice sometimes fascinate me. Water running into a drain, birds fighting in the hedge , all types of things.
Quiet observation, enhanced with our favorite herb.

Just imagining you standing out on the footpath/sidewalk in the rain, with an umbrella staring at the drain.

 

[TommyDee]

Shouldn't have done that - that took me to a dark place Oddly 'deep' and powerfully gripping image A muse of magnitude Okay all better now

 

[TheThriftDrifter]

@TommyDee have you been one hitting that screen modded IH fired dynavap again.

 

[TommyDee]

Don't you know it. Testing of course. Massive testing!

 

[vapirtoo]

Thriftdrifter nailed the moment!

 

[GetLeft]

I'm glad that my kids are grown, and I can vape where and when I want.

I've gotten a lot more casual about my usage around the house over the years but still have to pay attention when my kids are around. It's kind of second nature knowing when the light is green and when it's red. Get frustrated from time to time that it's not always green, but I keep myself well tuned for the most part and I know it won't be forever that I have to be this cautious.

I'm at the point where staying well tuned is my priority in life. After I spent my early years very well tuned, my entire mid-life years were cannabis free as I plowed forward through life's typical milestones. Very happy I had the wherewithal around 5 yrs. ago to get things right again. I wouldn't have done it though if vaping weren't possible. I'd not have returned to cumbusting. This is the place I learned about vaping so I'm very much indebted.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Just imagining you standing out on the footpath/sidewalk in the rain, with an umbrella staring at the drain.

Shouldn't have done that - that took me to a dark place Oddly 'deep' and powerfully gripping image A muse of magnitude Okay all better now

These reminded me of this scene.

 

[Brewervapesalot]

I'm a 66 yr old adult, college professor. I sometimes medicate early in the morning, like 4 hours before I need to be at work. Mostly, in the afternoon/early evening when my day's responsibilities are done and I can just chill at home without worrying about anything.

I mean it is "higher ed" and my experience is plenty of professors are far more useless sober than many people after smoking a joint.

@TheFatBastard Interesting thread you started here. I enjoyed reading your and others thoughts. I too am a father in my 40s. My wife is actually anti-cannabis and hasn't gotten over that all drugs are bad mantra we had beat into us in our youth. Her anti-cannabis stance definitely increases the issues. I am a medical user, but I also enjoy the recreational benefits as well. I generally only vape each night after the family is in bed. You're not alone in worrying about productivity and downtime, but I've concluded it's worth it to take time to enjoy life.

My (second) wife just finds things to complain about. It's her love language. She can be a little high strung. Cannabis is a good example. If she could get herself to relax more and wasnt subject to drug testing, I think she would dig it.

It's interesting I was married for ten years and really enjoyed cannabis with my first wife. It was a real fun and shared often. So I've been on both sides.

Personally, I think it fits some people's personality and life and compliments those things and improves them and/or is a prefered vice. For others, it makes them useless and lazy. Some just dont like it, especially those who cant conversate well when high.

My major concern is long term on the lungs. Still contemplating that one ....

 

[uncanni]

I mean it is "higher ed" and my experience is plenty of professors are far more useless sober than many people after smoking a joint.

Personally, I think it fits some people's personality and life and compliments those things and improves them and/or is a prefered vice. For others, it makes them useless and lazy. Some just dont like it, especially those who cant conversate well when high.

I've always said that some of the stupidest people I know have PhDs.

As for your second statement, I couldn't agree more, EXCEPT:
I'm one of the ones who loves a great, deep convo when I'm high. When I'm by myself, I often write.
But what I've discovered is different tokes for different folks. The people who love to veg on the sofa glued to the tv when they're high, love to be together. Those of us who love to go deep into the life of the mind, love to be together. I can no longer stand to be around folks who get zonked out or stupid when high, so I'm mostly by myself, or on one of two forums.

Members of each Cannabis tribe belong with their own tribe.

 

[YaMon]

I've always said that some of the stupidest people I know have PhDs.

Stupid or ignorant? While I do not have a PhD I too know many people who have masters degrees or doctorates a few of whom cannot see the forest for the trees. Does that make them stupid? Everyone brings something different to the table, it's just not always what is needed at a given place or time.

 

[uncanni]

Stupid or ignorant? While I do not have a PhD I too know many people who have masters degrees or doctorates a few of whom cannot see the forest for the trees. Does that make them stupid? Everyone brings something different to the table, it's just not always what is needed at a given place or time.

Not ignorant: someone with a PhD is clearly educated. My definition of stupid: myopic, low emotional intelligence, inability to be self-reflexive, insincere, insecure. These qualities make for a pretty darn boring individual... Whatever it is they bring to the table, I'll pass.

 

[YaMon]

Not ignorant: someone with a PhD is clearly educated. My definition of stupid: myopic, low emotional intelligence, inability to be self-reflexive, insincere, insecure. These qualities make for a pretty darn boring individual... Whatever it is they bring to the table, I'll pass.

All great points, but are some of these issues attributable to the isolation they subjected themselves to while attending to their education? That said I'm not advocating you hang or catch a buzz with someone who is either 'myopic, low emotional intelligence, inability to be self-reflexive, insincere, insecure.'

 

[uncanni]

isolation .... their education?'

No, I don't think higher ed changes who we are. And I actually think that people are generally like that, phony, superficial, narcissistic, the emotional intelligence of a dung beetle.

I've been doing academia for too long, it's time for me to get tf out of it. I don't think I would have been thrilled with any full-time job, so academia was best cuz of all the vacation you get along with the crappy salary (I'm humanities, no big STEM grants for me).

I think I just plain old don't care for lots of people. I can't stand phonies; Holden Caufield ruined them for me.

SO, in an effort to keep this post on the topic, I'll just add: I've learned that, to paraphrase an old Spanish saying, "Better to vape alone than in bad company." I came back to Cannabis in 2005 after 20 years away. Now, growing my own for the past 4 years (4 years in July), I am in an incredible relationship with the sacred herb, and it's really a no-no to use it with the wrong people. I wish I knew more folks I could vape with, but I am perfectly happy on my own with it.

 

[GetLeft]

I'm also an academician. Oddly enough, in 20 yrs. of work at the same institution, only a few of my colleagues have turned out to be people I get together with ocassionally for a beer. By and large, academicians bore me to death. Not to mention annoy me for their haughtiness. I put up with them because I have to. And I am truly looking forward to retirment when I don't have to deal with the whole scene any more. When someone thinks too highly of themselves, well, fuck them, they're not for me. I feel far more comfortable talking with folks that hang out at breweries and such. To me, being real is more imprtant than being smart. @uncanni none of this is intended to be disrespectful to your views. I have a feeling I'd enjoy your company.

While I have days when a quick session on the way to the office is called for, I tend to wait until my work is done before getting to the business of stablizing.

As far as vaping buddies, I have none. The few people I 'party' with from time to time (remember when 'party' meant to get high?) -- basically a couple of guys I hung out with as a teenager, and my supplier -- refuse to make the switch. Now if you're looking for a definition of stupid ...

 

[YaMon]

the emotional intelligence of a dung beetle.

that had me roaring. Amen brother!