Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud

[lepstadder]

I notice that the temp dial is at about the 2-3 o' clock position

Does the dial start at like 7 o' clock(coldest) and go to 5 o' clock(warmest)

if that would be the case then it appears that you could still turn it up quite a bit

Still no chance of combustion?

We are all sitting with bells...

 

[stonemonkey55]

Hey Stonemonkey,

While I am sure this may have come up already, but I thought about it (regarding your issue with the design of the easy load), from what I can see and how you describe it the screen/bowl lowading mechanism is similar to a thimble, or even more familiar the screen used in the Extreme Elbo,

What if rather then having the thimble design, use a cone design kinda like a funnel, but with no exit the side slop off to a central point, that remains closed, I just thought this would increase the fresh surface area of hot air and green and possibly improve the density, while still maintaining the easy top load.

We have tried the conical shape, for whatever reason, the screen manufacturers have a tough time putting this particular shape together. The main issue isn't so much the shape, but the way the screen mesh would allow the air to flow. We have resolved the air flow issue, now we just need to resolve the fit with the Cloud.

I notice that the temp dial is at about the 2-3 o' clock position

Does the dial start at like 7 o' clock(coldest) and go to 5 o' clock(warmest)

if that would be the case then it appears that you could still turn it up quite a bit

Still no chance of combustion?

We are all sitting with bells...

Yes, the temperature dial is exactly like you described it, from 7 to 5. We are dialing back the max temperature so that you will not experience any combustion. I know there might be some push back with this limiter but our goal was to design a big hitting, healthy vaporizer and combustion just goes against that mantra.

The good news is, at its highest setting, the vapor produced should satisfy even the most ardent "cloud chaser" and due to our highly efficient, vapor extraction methods, you should get satisfying clouds at low temperatures as well.

I'm stoked ladies and gents, now I just gotta approve that one last piece and it is off to the races!

 

[Anthony]

I'm excited to get my hands on one of these asap!

 

[Nebera]

Im really excited for the Cloud. I ordered the SGW ShowerDome because I already have a vertigo bubbler with a tree that I use for the surfer, and I like some variety.

SM55, How much of a learning curve does this have? Honestly it looks pretty simple to use, but could my non-vaping friends have any trouble if I just passed this to them?

 

[max]

Since the Cloud has excellent heat retention, you can reportedly hit it like a bong. A hard hit shouldn't lower the temp significantly.

 

[waveyvapes]

tree or dome- i'm havin difficulty deciding which hydra-tube.....what's the difference between them?

 

[Raf007]

SM55 and other people explained everything about those differences somewhere in the beginning or middle of this thread. Don't remember where though...but it's there.

 

[waveyvapes]

yikes- 72 page thread....

 

[lwien]

yikes- 72 page thread....

And the vape isn't even on the market yet.

Longest teaser I've ever seen.

 

[biojuggernaut]

it'll be totally worth it. Hell foreplay always spices up the vape room

 

[DeepFried]

We are dialing back the max temperature so that you will not experience any combustion. I know there might be some push back with this limiter but our goal was to design a big hitting, healthy vaporizer and combustion just goes against that mantra.

Say it ain't so SM55, just my opinion but don't you need to be 18+ to buy this, if so then that should be old enough to know to turn it down if you are getting too hot. The only limiter should be for safety reasons so it doesn't have a melt down. With a temp limiter it will be more difficult to vape certain hashes and other herbs like salvia.

You can have a healthy vape mantra AND allow high temps to be reached. With so many restrictions in our lives already, do we really need one in our vapes too?

 

[hereatlast]

DeepFried, notice that the point is to deny the possibility of combustion and not necessarily produce a solely low-temperature vaporizer. In the same SM55 post you reference he seems to allude that high-temperatures will be achievable though I'm in no position to clarify or qualify that 'cloud chaser' statement with reference to the VXC.

The only limiter should be for safety reasons so it doesn't have a melt down

I'm not sure we're in a position to assert what 'should' be the case, I don't mean to suggest your opinion isn't valid but rather that ultimately this is a decision for the manufacturer. It seems very logical to me that a vaporizer manufacturer (not even necessarily SM55 and VXC for that matter) would invest a commitment in capping their product's ability to cross the combustion threshold. Further, simply with reference to the pragmatic application, it seems to me that some temperature ceiling needs to be established/imposed as one of many factors distinguishing an herbal vaporizer from any heat source (that is to suggest that some determination of temperature capabilities seems inherent in the identity of the vaporizer itself).




Enjoyed the video, looking forward to the next steps, good luck to the VXC team in the coming weeks!

 

[mongorian]

I have to agree with hereatlast on this one. Being an owner of a DBV, which gets to astronomically high temperatures if so desired, I cannot crank it up past the noon - 1 o'clock position without igniting the buds and ruining another tube. I personally prefer a more _usable_ range of temperature, which it sounds like the Cloud will have.

Also... I really don't give a damn about how well Salvia works in it - simply not my thing. I am pretty certain though, that if you cranked the Cloud's temp up all the way or even near it, that it would handle hash just fine - and probably Salvia too.

 

[Egzoset]

Do we have photographs of ABV produced by the Cloud?

 

[stonemonkey55]

tree or dome- i'm havin difficulty deciding which hydra-tube.....what's the difference between them?

They both have the some function, to diffuse the vapor but have slightly different tools to do so. In my experience, the HydraTree has less drag and purrs more. The ShowerDome in contrast is a bit more chuggy and rumbles when you use it. Both are top notch percolators and we started with these two because we knew no matter which one people chose, they would be happy with either.

We are dialing back the max temperature so that you will not experience any combustion. I know there might be some push back with this limiter but our goal was to design a big hitting, healthy vaporizer and combustion just goes against that mantra.

Say it ain't so SM55, just my opinion but don't you need to be 18+ to buy this, if so then that should be old enough to know to turn it down if you are getting too hot. The only limiter should be for safety reasons so it doesn't have a melt down. With a temp limiter it will be more difficult to vape certain hashes and other herbs like salvia.

You can have a healthy vape mantra AND allow high temps to be reached. With so many restrictions in our lives already, do we really need one in our vapes too?

Hereatlast and Mongorian hit the nail on the head on this topic. While we understand that it will be adults using this device, and the last thing we want to do is take away a user's freedom, one part of our mission statement is to make the healthiest vaporizer we could design. Before we imposed the limiter, we had accidentally combusted a few bowls and it was extremely hard to clean out and affected the taste for subsequent users. We are definitely not trying to restrict anyone but the fact of the matter is, this is a vaporizer and by definition, a vaporizer shouldn't combust whatever is in the machine.

I have never tried salvia thru the Cloud but I have vaped some bubble hash and it worked perfectly fine. Out of the 50 or so people that have tried the Cloud, there were a few complaints about this, that, and the other but no complaints about the temperature capability of the unit. The unit will definitely have no problem getting the CBDs and CBNs from your meds and my hunch is if it can vape hash, it should be able to vape salvia.

Do we have photographs of ABV produced by the Cloud?

When I get some free time, I will show the abv at various temp settings of the Cloud.

 

[mongorian]

... but I have vaped some bubble hash and it worked perfectly fine.

Awesome! What temp setting did you find worked best for this?

... we had accidentally combusted a few bowls and it was extremely hard to clean out and affected the taste for subsequent users.

Ugh... I don't even want to think about trying to clean vape combustion remnants out of a percolated water tube. That's the most awful taste/smell too.

 

[VWFringe]

(i wish it would be appropriate to ask for pictures of the internals...'its good to want things, one more thing to keep my imagination churning')

 

[waveyvapes]

They both have the some function, to diffuse the vapor but have slightly different tools to do so. In my experience, the HydraTree has less drag and purrs more. The ShowerDome in contrast is a bit more chuggy and rumbles when you use it.

What is meant by the word "drag" in this context?

 

[max]

They both have the some function, to diffuse the vapor but have slightly different tools to do so. In my experience, the HydraTree has less drag and purrs more. The ShowerDome in contrast is a bit more chuggy and rumbles when you use it.

What is meant by the word "drag" in this context?

'Drag' - "to draw with force, effort, or difficulty; pull heavily or slowly along". It's an impediment to an easy, smooth air flow.

 

[stonemonkey55]

... but I have vaped some bubble hash and it worked perfectly fine.

Awesome! What temp setting did you find worked best for this?

... we had accidentally combusted a few bowls and it was extremely hard to clean out and affected the taste for subsequent users.

Ugh... I don't even want to think about trying to clean vape combustion remnants out of a percolated water tube. That's the most awful taste/smell too.

For the hash we had it pretty much at the maximum setting. I'm going to do some more testing this weekend with a few different units to see if there is any variance for the hash. Our heater goes up to 900F but this was making the enclosure too hot to hold. We just need to program the heat algorithm to heat up the internal to get hot enough to vape hash but not so much where the unit is not holdable.

 

[Anthony]

Nice update! I got mine pre-ordered and can't wait until this launches and I can get my hands on one!

 

[DeepFried]

I don't vape salvia, just was using it as an example of a herb that needs a higher temp as some do. If it can though maybe you can get Miley Cirrus to do an endorsement.

Having the enclosure stay cool enough to hold is obviously important and sounds like that is somewhat of a limiting factor on the max temp attainable.

@hereatlast - as usual I don't agree with your postings, the one above is no exception. "Further, simply with reference to the pragmatic application, it seems to me that some temperature ceiling needs to be established/imposed as one of many factors distinguishing an herbal vaporizer from any heat source (that is to suggest that some determination of temperature capabilities seems inherent in the identity of the vaporizer itself)." - I guess I am too stoopid to comprehend your level of sophistication.

 

[B.]

for me, personally, i am glad to have a temp limit so i know i won't combust. I still have an accidental combustion with my SSV every once in a while, and i hate it. I love my MZ because i never have to worry(among other things). I loves me some bho, but i have tools to vape that that are designed just for that one purpose. In the cloud i hope to get an equally awesome tool specifically designed to vape bud. If, in that specific application the cloud also happens to be a super concentrate tool too, thats awesome. but not at the price of potential combustion.

however, even if the limiter were removed and the full 900 degrees were possible, i'll still be snaggin this bad boy the 1st chance i get.

 

[B.]

double post. oops.

Go see cedar rapids, that shit is too funny!!!

also, exit thru the gift shop soooo should have won the oscar. watch it. watch it now. obey.

that is all.

(edit: dont reply gang, i don't want to derail this beast. )

 

[Earths Essence]

I noticed the VapeXhale Cloud has a one year warranty. This may sound like I'm asking too much, but I'd like to see maybe a three year warranty, to help secure the buyers decision.