Discontinued VapeXhaleLabs Presents: The Cloud
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lepstadder
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hopefully we can get it for xmas, hopefully before 2011
DevoTheStrange
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if i remember correctly... it was stated that the first thousand units will be sold at a discount price... with the glass piece included. and after all these units are sold, the price will go up.
as far as i know all prices listed on the vape xhale site reflect which glass piece you choose to get with your unit. glass comes with
2clicker said:
as far as i know all prices listed on the vape xhale site reflect which glass piece you choose to get with your unit. glass comes with
Hello fellow vaporists! Sorry for the delay in response, my day job has me traveling as much as possible since I will be taking 3 weeks off after SM55 Jr comes out 
We won't have our final bill of materials until we thoroughly test our final enclosure plus the thermal insulator. We are doing our best to keep prices down and end up somewhere close to our launch price using a VX branded HydraTube versus SGW, VG, or Sovereignty.
There is no use in creating such a great vape if no one can buy it and we are very cognizant of that fact. More to come shortly and thanks again for all the support.
We won't have our final bill of materials until we thoroughly test our final enclosure plus the thermal insulator. We are doing our best to keep prices down and end up somewhere close to our launch price using a VX branded HydraTube versus SGW, VG, or Sovereignty.
There is no use in creating such a great vape if no one can buy it and we are very cognizant of that fact. More to come shortly and thanks again for all the support.
Pappy said:Stonemonkey,bladesrh420 said:
Blades picked this thought right from my mind.It would appear with a proper adaptor the EQV would be a good candidate for the HydraTube.
Have you given any thought to marketing it as such? I know this is a tricky question so please don't feel compelled to answer it definitively at this time if you haven't thought it through.
Do you agree the EQV could be viable alternative? Kindly correct me if I'm wrong. Is the VapeXhale unit fan driven or doesn't that factor in at all? In the videos it appears suction based.
You created a very intriguing product so I hope you don't find these question intrusive.Thanks!
PS: You could always use me as a beta tester
They will be selling extra hydra tubes so you can buy a lab glass adapter male to male 18.8 FROM EBAY and voila same deal with the EQV
http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-Adapter-Conn...0419388943?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0#ht_500wt_928
2clicker
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mr stonemonkey,
will the Vertigo HydraTubes be available just like the one in your test video from the site? it says your using it with a whip. could a keck clip be used at this connection?
anyway, after getting a left coast beaker ive been craving a smaller glass/water piece for more everyday use with my DBV. so ive been looking at bubblers and the like, but never thought about just getting one of the hydra tube and using it with a whip. and this looks like a nice lil everyday water/cooling solution.
i ask about the Vertigo HydraTubes specifically because they appear to have the full 19MM connection (inside and out). this would allow me to use a keck clip to hold the whip/adapter in place at the bottom of the HydraTube w/out having to hold it. make sense?
the other HydraTubes all looked like they have a recessed 19MM connection.
also, do you have a rough estimate on what the price on the HydraTubes will be alone? if this has been discussed i apologize.
thanks!
will the Vertigo HydraTubes be available just like the one in your test video from the site? it says your using it with a whip. could a keck clip be used at this connection?
anyway, after getting a left coast beaker ive been craving a smaller glass/water piece for more everyday use with my DBV. so ive been looking at bubblers and the like, but never thought about just getting one of the hydra tube and using it with a whip. and this looks like a nice lil everyday water/cooling solution.
i ask about the Vertigo HydraTubes specifically because they appear to have the full 19MM connection (inside and out). this would allow me to use a keck clip to hold the whip/adapter in place at the bottom of the HydraTube w/out having to hold it. make sense?
the other HydraTubes all looked like they have a recessed 19MM connection.
also, do you have a rough estimate on what the price on the HydraTubes will be alone? if this has been discussed i apologize.
thanks!
NYC Vape
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It's interesting all this discussion about price point.
While I am certainly sensitive to people's economic situation (and the current very positive trend of people actually saving some of their money instead of the traditional thinking of several years ago to spend more than we actually had) I feel this is a bit of a cart before the horse situation.
I find the medicinal herbs to be so expensive, that the cost of the delivery mechanism is negligible.
In the context of a person (lets say over 5 years time) spending anywhere from five to twenty five thousand dollars on herbs, what is the difference of the total expenditure (percentage wise) between a $100 vape and a $500 vape?
And considering that the more expensive product might be more efficient, it could end up saving money.
Of course there are probably members here who pay very little or nothing for their meds, but if that's the case they should be able to afford a nice vape with their low yearly costs.
I am actually going the other direction on the whole vape issue.
Since trying a Volcano 8 months ago (and then buying an Extreme) I have been smoke free. I am so committed to this lifestyle that I want to own a variety of different vaporizers.
I use the Extreme solely in whip mode these days. What I love about it is that I can type at the keyboard with the glass end in my mouth like a hookah. At times it aides the creative writing process.
Recently I had a chance to use someone else's Volcano. I truly think it does bags better than any, and there is a consistency to the bags. I believe it has to do with the bowls surface area and well timed velocity of air. I am now thinking of getting one for certain situations. Blowing up bags ahead of time is viable for mobile situations when you don't have a portable vape.
Of course I will own the VapeXhale when it is released. How could I not own a completely new take on vaporizing (with watercooling)?
And I'll also buy a portable or two when I see a new one I like.
My only regret about vaporizing is that I didn't buy a Volcano when I first heard about it years ago. I too thought it was just too expensive in case I didn't like it. And buying a box vape proved a waste of money, and I went back to smoking for years, when I could have been vaping.
I also have a vaporgenie I still use once in a while on vacation.
While I am certainly sensitive to people's economic situation (and the current very positive trend of people actually saving some of their money instead of the traditional thinking of several years ago to spend more than we actually had) I feel this is a bit of a cart before the horse situation.
I find the medicinal herbs to be so expensive, that the cost of the delivery mechanism is negligible.
In the context of a person (lets say over 5 years time) spending anywhere from five to twenty five thousand dollars on herbs, what is the difference of the total expenditure (percentage wise) between a $100 vape and a $500 vape?
And considering that the more expensive product might be more efficient, it could end up saving money.
Of course there are probably members here who pay very little or nothing for their meds, but if that's the case they should be able to afford a nice vape with their low yearly costs.
I am actually going the other direction on the whole vape issue.
Since trying a Volcano 8 months ago (and then buying an Extreme) I have been smoke free. I am so committed to this lifestyle that I want to own a variety of different vaporizers.
I use the Extreme solely in whip mode these days. What I love about it is that I can type at the keyboard with the glass end in my mouth like a hookah. At times it aides the creative writing process.
Recently I had a chance to use someone else's Volcano. I truly think it does bags better than any, and there is a consistency to the bags. I believe it has to do with the bowls surface area and well timed velocity of air. I am now thinking of getting one for certain situations. Blowing up bags ahead of time is viable for mobile situations when you don't have a portable vape.
Of course I will own the VapeXhale when it is released. How could I not own a completely new take on vaporizing (with watercooling)?
And I'll also buy a portable or two when I see a new one I like.
My only regret about vaporizing is that I didn't buy a Volcano when I first heard about it years ago. I too thought it was just too expensive in case I didn't like it. And buying a box vape proved a waste of money, and I went back to smoking for years, when I could have been vaping.
I also have a vaporgenie I still use once in a while on vacation.
well, if it can reassure you, I bought a Cano in 2003 and only started to use it for real in 2009. Because at first I was disappointed with it because of a lack of know how and despite the fact I had tried it before buying. ... now I m loving it but I am wondering if an EQ could be one of my next buy... after the VXH that is
max
Out to lunch
If you have a Volcano, and intend to get a Cloud, I see no reason to get an Extreme. It's a dual mode vape, great if you want both delivery methods and don't have a good vape for either. But it's not up to the level of whip only vapes for direct draw, and since you don't need it for bags, there's really no point.Raf007 said:well, if it can reassure you, I bought a Cano in 2003 and only started to use it for real in 2009. Because at first I was disappointed with it because of a lack of know how and despite the fact I had tried it before buying. ... now I m loving it but I am wondering if an EQ could be one of my next buy... after the VXH that is
@Max
Because until your post I had never thought as the Cloud as a whip vape if that what's your suggesting.
I had also assumed that the EQ performs as good as any good whip vape.
But it's a good point of view and it's true that if the Cloud also performs as good as a nice whip vape I may not be buying a whip vape.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts !
Because until your post I had never thought as the Cloud as a whip vape if that what's your suggesting.
I had also assumed that the EQ performs as good as any good whip vape.
But it's a good point of view and it's true that if the Cloud also performs as good as a nice whip vape I may not be buying a whip vape.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts !
hereatlast
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Raf I thinkMax's point is this: with the Cloud you have a dedicated glass vape, with the Volcano you've got a dedicated bag vape; seems what you're missing is a whip-style vape, the Extreme excels as a 'jack-of-all' trades vape but you can do much better in the whip arena. Not sure how the Cloud would work with a whip (I'm not saying mechanically) but it seems designed through and through to be used with the Hydratubes and other glass; after finding a satisfying water-cooled hit its hard to turn back IME.
max
Out to lunch
True, but I'd take it further. See below.hereatlast said:
Not a whip vape, but direct draw, vs. bag fill like the 'cano. My meaning was that if you have the Cloud, I don't see why you'd need or want a whip vape. The Cloud would give you bigger hits than any whip model, and the heat exchanger will make it easier to use than a whip vape, where draw speed is a factor in vaping temp. The Cloud is going to be pretty much like hitting a bong-little to no learning curve and the same temp setting can be used for person A, who takes nice slow hits, and person B, who hits like he's trying to drain the whole bowl with one hit. Along with the 'cano, you'd probably have the two best party vapes you can get. No need to train vapor newbies with either unit. I could maybe see someone wanting a whip model (vs the Cloud) for smaller hits, or because they just like loading a wand and holding the whip, but for the most part, I see a lot of whip vapes collecting dust or getting sold because the owner now has a Cloud. I can't see myself still using my SSV once I get my hands on a Cloud. For me it should be the PD for small 'sips', and the Cloud when I feel like hitting it big.Raf007 said:
As for any version of the Extreme being up to par with a good, full sized whip vape, for vapor rich whip hits, it isn't. The E has a big airy bowl and a large diameter vapor path. The big bowl is good for keeping the herb stirred up without having to use a pokey stick, but you get more air in your hits than you do with the popular whip only models. The SSV, in particular, has a narrow outlet opening in the heater cover, providing a narrow stream of hot air for the bowl contents. So your hits have a high vapor to air ratio. The DBV, with its ground glass connection, has a larger diameter HC opening, so the hits aren't quite as rich as those from the SSV. Still better than the big bowled E though, and the DBV hits are more predictable and you don't need as much stirring of the bowl as with the SSV. The only way to approach these vapor rich hits with the E is to load the elbow screen instead of the bowl. I owned the original version of the E-the analog V-Tower (same bowl and vapor path as the E), and all the hot air I was getting in my throat turned me off and I sold it. I see no reason to get the E, or even an excellent whip vape like the SSV or DBV, if you have the Cloud. To me (and I doubt I'm alone in this opinion), the Cloud covers all the bases for a big hitting direct draw vape unless you prefer the ergonomics of a whip model. stonemonkey has owned or used pretty much all the good vapes, including several of the $500+ digital whip models like the Vaporfection. The Cloud was designed to have the best features of the best models for performance, taste, and reliability. Before you invest in a pricy whip model, I'd try the Cloud (assuming you're committed to getting one, as you should be
) and see if you think there's anything lacking that you could get with a whip model.You know at first when the Vapexhale cloud caught my eye, I thought it was the coolest looking thing i've ever seen. I never looked at what went on behind it though, you guys started a business in a failing economy with a radical futuristic approach at vaping behind the idea of helping fellow smokers. Crazy how a simple good deed created the most anticipated vape for what I think will last into future generations.
I salute you guys
I salute you guys
Yep, I'm planning on getting a Cloud since day one gridded hydra tree.
But still I don't see myself using a glass vape all the time, I like the idea of just manipulating a whip without worrying of dropping something and I like the rich hits of the SupV - which I guess are similar to a solid whip vape. So after your long and usefull resum I don't know which one it's going to be right now . Especially coz I find the SSV and DBV not user friendly enough...I know I may be picky here, but as you mentionned, having that many vapes I'm in no hurry
What's sure is that my next big buy is for the Cloud...and by then I will have finally try an EQ at a friend's.
gridded hydra tree.But still I don't see myself using a glass vape all the time, I like the idea of just manipulating a whip without worrying of dropping something and I like the rich hits of the SupV - which I guess are similar to a solid whip vape. So after your long and usefull resum I don't know which one it's going to be right now . Especially coz I find the SSV and DBV not user friendly enough...I know I may be picky here, but as you mentionned, having that many vapes I'm in no hurry
What's sure is that my next big buy is for the Cloud...and by then I will have finally try an EQ at a friend's.
MichMartin
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So sad I have my needs med when I see this!
Because I want it.
I guess I have to wait until something breaks
Because I want it.
I guess I have to wait until something breaks
Hey everyone! Sorry I have been MIA lately. Labor day was very laborious for the wife 
To quickly answer your question, we are shooting for a holiday season launch with anything sooner being icing on the cake. Latest enclosures are sitting in customs waiting to be cleared so that PowerNerd3000 can due his engineering thing, testing, tweaking, coding, programming, etc etc.
To quickly answer your question, we are shooting for a holiday season launch with anything sooner being icing on the cake. Latest enclosures are sitting in customs waiting to be cleared so that PowerNerd3000 can due his engineering thing, testing, tweaking, coding, programming, etc etc.
hemp;)goofy8cheerio
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stonemon where will vape xhale cloud b made north amerika us? where r the enclosures made(or other parts of interest
? is the cloud 100% RoHS lead free? i know in california they r tuff with even lead or sumting in power cords i guess or dunno what else r gud ?s the home stretch few months awaay 
? is the cloud 100% RoHS lead free? i know in california they r tuff with even lead or sumting in power cords i guess or dunno what else r gud ?s the home stretch few months awaay 
ioright
Cloud Connoisseur
So I bought A Q a few months ago thinking it would be the be all to end all vapes.
Yup, that was going to be my final purchase. Turns out I can't keep my eye off of this thing! Can anyone give me a quick run down of what the differences between the tubes are, or direct me to where this was probably already discussed? I am a bit of a glass noob, but I am eager to learn
Yup, that was going to be my final purchase. Turns out I can't keep my eye off of this thing! Can anyone give me a quick run down of what the differences between the tubes are, or direct me to where this was probably already discussed? I am a bit of a glass noob, but I am eager to learn
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