Cheebsy
Microbe minion
To me, that's even more troubling... They have a proven product!
Discontinued Vapexhale Petra (Upgraded Evo?)
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.brew
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There doesn't need to be anything esoteric in it to be hindered by the current global chip shortage--even the most basic/common "chips" are in dire shortage right now.
I'm not sure whether it points to more or less trouble, but I will say there were significant differences between then and now.
Seibo was a long-time member of this forum, I'd argue was one of the pioneers in the overall movement toward vaping, and the Evo was a first of its kind. It also wasn't the "first" device he was involved in if we count his involvement at vriptech.
Abysmal Vapor
Supersniffer 2000 - robot fart detection device
I may not have expressed myself properly, I meant more like there arent chips in those regulators .just mofsets/transistors ,but i am not sure about that.
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Ok, it is just a shame to not know that for me. So i decided to educate myself. MOFSETS actually involve semi-conductors,so they are affected by this crysis,too.
The Metal Oxide Semiconductor Field Effect Transistor (MOSFET) is a commonly used semiconductor in digital and analogue circuits and is also a useful power device. As the original compact transistor, it is suitable for a wide variety of electrical applications.
Here is the read if anyone is interested.
MOSFET Buying Guide - What is a MOSFET?
An easy to follow guide that explains everything you need to know about MOSFETs, including what they are and showcasing the best products available.
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.brew
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Funny enough, you and I responded to one another in a thread back in 2019 and you encouraged me to get a FP as backup to my (then) broken Evo. I ended up buying a new one and just use the old one with the broken bamboo as a full temp cleaning device (xnails and basket burn-off, etc.).
Here we are a couple years later so I have to ask how you compare the FP to the EVO? I'm on the fence between this or something like an FP for backup.
Both are super satisfying! Hard to compare as apples to oranges because FP experience depends on the glass that you use with it. My glass options are somewhat limited in favor of a little more discretion. Meaning I try to only bring out my big beautiful glass pieces and FP once in a while when I have company or know I won’t be walked in on. Evo on the other hand sits inconspicuously on my desk til ready to sip from. I use it with a whip that I keep in a box beside it. So it gets much more use. In terms of vapor quality Evo gets a slight edge for me and that edge is in terms of taste. But in fairness, probably not the fault of the FP. Could more likely be the perk I’m using on the water piece that I use with my FP
bkkbob
Obsessive Collector
They are not responding to any questions regarding whether or not they have the funds to go into production considering that they are 400 units short of the 500 unit minimum that they said they needed to complete the project. I also asked if they needed to secure additional funding or sell more units to produce the 100 +/- units they have sold through today in order to actually produce them. I have asked this in 3 different ways and gotten 2 responses very nice ones. The first I posted here about the delay to February, but they have neglected to respond to that specific question in all 3 emails.
I honestly think they didn't sell what they anticipated based on the original Evo Kickstarter and they don't have the funds to produce the Petra with the current sales, I also think they would be at a loss most likely just like producing 100 units.
This is just my guess reading in between the lines as a fairly well-versed business person. I have written again and asked for a refund if they cannot answer that question affirmatively.
I really didn't want to post this and told them I would not if they responded to the question, but with the evasive nature of their answers (and still no response), I really think it's important that everyone is aware of the situation. They could just be very busy, and missing that sentence in all my emails, but it's very very strange given they are saying in one place buy it now they are almost out, but the official website says there are over 400 left.
I honestly think they didn't sell what they anticipated based on the original Evo Kickstarter and they don't have the funds to produce the Petra with the current sales, I also think they would be at a loss most likely just like producing 100 units.
This is just my guess reading in between the lines as a fairly well-versed business person. I have written again and asked for a refund if they cannot answer that question affirmatively.
I really didn't want to post this and told them I would not if they responded to the question, but with the evasive nature of their answers (and still no response), I really think it's important that everyone is aware of the situation. They could just be very busy, and missing that sentence in all my emails, but it's very very strange given they are saying in one place buy it now they are almost out, but the official website says there are over 400 left.
justcametomind
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JOHN GALT
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What am I missing?
500 units at $420 each is only $210,000.
We aren't talking about very much funding, considering what they must have paid Seibo for VapeXhale.
The PR hit HanuLabs/VapeXhale is taking here at FC just isn't worth not answering emails.
They should have someone from their PR department here keeping us informed, imho.
500 units at $420 each is only $210,000.
We aren't talking about very much funding, considering what they must have paid Seibo for VapeXhale.
The PR hit HanuLabs/VapeXhale is taking here at FC just isn't worth not answering emails.
They should have someone from their PR department here keeping us informed, imho.
.brew
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My Crown Hydratree is supposed to arrive on Monday. From the description it seems like it's higher quality than the ones that have been sold recently. Mine is one of the OG models so it's thick, hefty, and relatively solid. My friend, by contrast, broke hers within a few days of receiving it and then broke the two replacements she ordered and received a couple weeks after that. Now she just uses a mouthpiece (but receives her Hydratree this Tuesday).
That, if it's normal sized and similar to my earlier model, seems like good value for $100. I never got around to ordering any of the Chinese knock-offs but now they are 2-3x the cost of what they used to be when the EVO was initially released. I checked before placing my order and they were between $60-80 dollars plus shipping time so a 5mm piece direct from EVO seemed like a no-brainer.
That, if it's normal sized and similar to my earlier model, seems like good value for $100. I never got around to ordering any of the Chinese knock-offs but now they are 2-3x the cost of what they used to be when the EVO was initially released. I checked before placing my order and they were between $60-80 dollars plus shipping time so a 5mm piece direct from EVO seemed like a no-brainer.
Silver420Surfer
Downward spiral
"My Crown Hydratree..."
Nevermind, I didn't look hard enough on their website. That Crown looks sick. Reviews once you get it would be great!
JOHN GALT
Well-Known Member
Found it, Crown Evolver HydraTree, $179/99 but I didn't see any description, especially 5mm thickness.
Crown Hydratree
The Crown HydraTree™ 2.0 is also a very thick, 5mm tube. The 7 tree arms are long and perfectly cut in a precise manner. Each tree has 2 slits and the tube provides a drag free experience - the vapor purrs into the throat in a fast and tasty manner. The unit has a sturdy base has a very solid...
www.xhl3.com
I have a HigherStandards HeavyDuty bong that is advertised as being 7mm thick.
Higher Standards Heavy Duty Mini Beaker
The Higher Standards Heavy Duty Mini Beaker brings the elite Higher Standards craftsmanship and capabilities to your next dry herb or concentrate session. Handcrafted in the USA.
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VapeMeister Supreme
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Never heard back there was no shipping confirmation. I tried multiple email addresses just incase and never heard back at all for any questions even shipping eta? Like I said before If I don't hear back by next week I will contact Sezzle initiate a refund. I dont have time for this type of disregard for CS. Lesser companies have had enough courtesy and respect for there customers to respond to an email.
Turning out to be a joke and I hope I am wrong. I actually supported even though all this vague bs social media PR gave me a suspect feeling about the hand change. Getting all the generated promo emails but nothing else. No one is bashing here just trying to uncover why there is no presence on FC and no emails are being answered even ones pertaining to unfilled orders. I would even be apprehensive about purchasing a new evo as well the transparency is none existent and its kind of like a smack in the face like this is dudes side hustle and not his main event. Crazy
Turning out to be a joke and I hope I am wrong. I actually supported even though all this vague bs social media PR gave me a suspect feeling about the hand change. Getting all the generated promo emails but nothing else. No one is bashing here just trying to uncover why there is no presence on FC and no emails are being answered even ones pertaining to unfilled orders. I would even be apprehensive about purchasing a new evo as well the transparency is none existent and its kind of like a smack in the face like this is dudes side hustle and not his main event. Crazy
.brew
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Maybe we're dealing with islanders. The name, Hanu, is Hawaiian anyway. I haven't interacted with the new management yet so I can't say one way or the other...but islanders tend to operate in a different state of mind that would probably infuriate others who aren't familiar with it (and even some who are).
In any case, my hydratree arrived but I'm out of town and won't be able to report back on how it functions until Monday evening. It looks like the picture, though...FWIW; that's about as much as I can say about it other than it arrived relatively quickly.
Relaxed
This Space For Rent
Found it, Crown Evolver HydraTree, $179/99 but I didn't see any description, especially 5mm thickness.
Crown Hydratree
The Crown HydraTree™ 2.0 is also a very thick, 5mm tube. The 7 tree arms are long and perfectly cut in a precise manner. Each tree has 2 slits and the tube provides a drag free experience - the vapor purrs into the throat in a fast and tasty manner. The unit has a sturdy base has a very solid...www.xhl3.com
It's right in the description. Their website is funky, I can't find it without your link.
The Crown HydraTree™ 2.0 is also a very thick, 5mm tube. The 7 tree arms are long and perfectly cut in a precise manner. Each tree has 2 slits and the tube provides a drag free experience - the vapor purrs into the throat in a fast and tasty manner. The unit has a sturdy base has a very solid feel and stands alone nicely.
JOHN GALT
Well-Known Member
Thanks, the website is definitely funky, I spent way too much time searching for it yesterday!!
Anyone have the dimensions of the Crown HydraTree, it appears massive?
.brew
Well-Known Member
It's not massive. It's slightly smaller in diameter but taller than the other hydratubes:
I haven't used mine yet, but here is what was reported:
"Smooth as fuck with a new basket"
"Like smoother then in actually breathing"
VapeMeister Supreme
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I am familiar with the Island time term.
Guys look at this Ish I called it. I knew the silence and lack of response was leading to something involving Violins. But I didn't know the violin Solo playing would last till Feb 15 wtf. Already put in a request for refund. You totally misled everyone on the ship date. Probably can't even show face on FC. Lost a loyal customer potentially for good.
Couldn't even respond like a legit business man and represent your company and support your customers. Can you tell im tight and more so because I had a strong gut feeling and didn't listen. Missing my evo and vapexhale for real.
Damn that Honeycomb swiss base diameter is huge! No wonder it won't fit in the petra. The new crown looks nice. This is beyond Island time lmfao. This is akin to an alternate dimension where even someone on Island time is like damn you slow lmfao!
Guys look at this Ish I called it. I knew the silence and lack of response was leading to something involving Violins. But I didn't know the violin Solo playing would last till Feb 15 wtf. Already put in a request for refund. You totally misled everyone on the ship date. Probably can't even show face on FC. Lost a loyal customer potentially for good.
Couldn't even respond like a legit business man and represent your company and support your customers. Can you tell im tight and more so because I had a strong gut feeling and didn't listen. Missing my evo and vapexhale for real.
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bkkbob
Obsessive Collector
They still have not responded to me since they told me this in email, my question was simply do they have the funds to go into production currently or do they need to sell the 500 original units they stated in the first advertisements.
My credit card company said if they issued a refund they would post it immediately, so the 45 days makes no sense.
I am getting more and more skeptical now as it's been a week and a few emails now, even offering assistance which they first accepted asking me to make my first post here.
I bought one for myself and colleague, I would love to get them, or a refund (prefer them), but with the new radio silence after three very nice emails in one day just evading the question of funds to produce, I really think it's just a crapshoot now.
After seeing the hydro tube I also said if they are confident they can produce the devices we'll take the hydro tubes now, but again no response, Id rather lose 399 than 499, but I won't send an email just asking for those without saying i need a refund if they can't commit to delivery of the Petra, so I think I am in a catch 22. If anyone has any better luck than me, please PM or post. I am pretty good at writing passive, diplomatic emails though. Right now, based on the email chain I really think there is less than a 50% chance we will get the Petra in Feb. I think they will offer Evos with a ton of accessories, as they already tried to in their last email. They only raised less than 50K for the entire production and are still using the same prototype (single) at all the events they are having (according to a friend that went to a show in Las Vegas very recently).
My credit card company said if they issued a refund they would post it immediately, so the 45 days makes no sense.
I am getting more and more skeptical now as it's been a week and a few emails now, even offering assistance which they first accepted asking me to make my first post here.
I bought one for myself and colleague, I would love to get them, or a refund (prefer them), but with the new radio silence after three very nice emails in one day just evading the question of funds to produce, I really think it's just a crapshoot now.
After seeing the hydro tube I also said if they are confident they can produce the devices we'll take the hydro tubes now, but again no response, Id rather lose 399 than 499, but I won't send an email just asking for those without saying i need a refund if they can't commit to delivery of the Petra, so I think I am in a catch 22. If anyone has any better luck than me, please PM or post. I am pretty good at writing passive, diplomatic emails though. Right now, based on the email chain I really think there is less than a 50% chance we will get the Petra in Feb. I think they will offer Evos with a ton of accessories, as they already tried to in their last email. They only raised less than 50K for the entire production and are still using the same prototype (single) at all the events they are having (according to a friend that went to a show in Las Vegas very recently).
JOHN GALT
Well-Known Member
I was on the website yesterday and noticed they are now selling the Petra (Base Unit Only) for $350,
which is only $30 more than they're asking for a new CloudEVO (Base Only) which is $320.
Maybe the Petra is just a CloudEVO with a metal cover & handles, for $30 more??
which is only $30 more than they're asking for a new CloudEVO (Base Only) which is $320.
Maybe the Petra is just a CloudEVO with a metal cover & handles, for $30 more??
PETRA - Limited Edition (Base Unit Only)
Hanu Labs has always been proud of the fact that all of our products are assembled in the USA, but in light of the pandemic, getting the parts we need to manufacture our devices has become increasingly difficult. During this uphill battle many industries in manufacturing are facing, we have...
www.xhl3.com
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ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I have 2-EVO’s that R-awesome.
A bud tender used a CLOUD & said he no longer smoked joint’s!
My interest & desire grew 4 a vaporizer?
Having been a paper joint smoker 4-decade’s I got a EVO & discovery of BLISS was exceptional!
FLAVOR of CANNABIS is decent besides it’s MEDICINE properties changed my perspective?
Coffee, Java, EXPRESSO is legal a round the BLUE DOT
BIPEDAL’S Dwell so why is CANNABIS demonized?
Justpassedu
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I really wanted that crown hyrda tube but the only thing that stopped me was I happen to really like a bent mouthpiece with the evo as I feel it makes it much easier to use on a desk . The price is perfect but i found this for such a good deal 
.brew
Well-Known Member
I had/have the same concern but I eventually took that as a reason to get one!
I don't want an "upgrade." I want a side grade that won't obviate my bent tube.
I'd love to have the piece you have there, though.
I'll let you know how it is using the straight tube on Monday.
I speculate it's part of the reason my friend reported it's smoother than her others, which were bent neck before her cat knocked them off the shelf.
I don't want an "upgrade." I want a side grade that won't obviate my bent tube.
I'd love to have the piece you have there, though.
I'll let you know how it is using the straight tube on Monday.
I speculate it's part of the reason my friend reported it's smoother than her others, which were bent neck before her cat knocked them off the shelf.
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
Good luck with it and yes looking forward to it . I’d like to hear what you think .I had/have the same concern but I eventually took that as a reason to get one!
I don't want an "upgrade." I want a side grade that won't obviate my bent tube.
I'd love to have the piece you have there, though.
I'll let you know how it is using the straight tube on Monday.
I speculate it's part of the reason my friend reported it's smoother than her others, which were bent neck before her cat knocked them off the shelf.
.brew
Well-Known Member
Well...my friend wasn't wrong. This hydratube hits smooooooth! Compared to my OG Turbine, it's smaller in diameter but slightly taller. The mouthpiece is narrow--like pinky diameter. It's at most half the weight. My OG piece is a tank, though; I assumed 5mm was being boasted because it was thick/heavy glass but this is average thickness in glass. Not the cheap stuff in a mall/boardwalk headshop but not a massive lump of boro, either.
That's the comparison but by no means intended to be conveying poor quality. The glass is nicely blown. I don't see anything that is crooked or questionable seams. If this fits the Petra tightly, though, I don't know how an OG tube like mine will fit. Used on an EVO it's best to plan on holding the EVO in one's lap because I had to stand with it on the desk.
Most importantly...I'm high AF!
That's the comparison but by no means intended to be conveying poor quality. The glass is nicely blown. I don't see anything that is crooked or questionable seams. If this fits the Petra tightly, though, I don't know how an OG tube like mine will fit. Used on an EVO it's best to plan on holding the EVO in one's lap because I had to stand with it on the desk.
Most importantly...I'm high AF!