Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud
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Troi
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As a courtesy to FC. I just wanted to let everyone on here know that the the 50$ discount on preordaining will end on November 5th. After that point you will still be able to pre-order but everything will be at full Retail price.
The pre-order will still be through celery until we are at a point where we can immediately full-fill and have fulfilled all pre-orders. Nobody will be charged until their order ships.
In addition this is the Trade in offer on table. To trade in your cloud for an EVO its 300$. If you send in a dead cloud we will credit that trade in immediately down to 250. The 250/200 option was only available during the indigogo campaign.
Please submit all inquires through the support portal. Please do not directly PM SM55, or myself.
The pre-order will still be through celery until we are at a point where we can immediately full-fill and have fulfilled all pre-orders. Nobody will be charged until their order ships.
In addition this is the Trade in offer on table. To trade in your cloud for an EVO its 300$. If you send in a dead cloud we will credit that trade in immediately down to 250. The 250/200 option was only available during the indigogo campaign.
Please submit all inquires through the support portal. Please do not directly PM SM55, or myself.
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Did your heater wires become disconnected? I would try fixing one if it was broken. You can't break it more. Haha.Oh, OK... I did the $250 trade in deal. I'd love to have it fixed as a backup, and I can't believe nobody here has the skill to do it! If I did, I'd start a little side thing and fix all the broken Clouds for $50
Seek
Apprentice Daydreamer
Actually you can. A member has baought a busted Cloud and tried to resolder it with help of some master welder. They failed as the heat broke the heater. Also the glass can be broken in process.
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
What if you used conductive adhesive that cures at 250f?
11eleven11
Well-Known Member
A long time ago, someone posted a "freezing device" that gets your glass and stuff cold really fast, and you can buy all the parts to make it for like $20. Does anybody remember that?
I can't find it. Anybody got a link to that post in this thread?
I can't find it. Anybody got a link to that post in this thread?
lazylathe
Almost there...
Not too sure if the clouds heater is part of the air path or not, so take this with a grain of salt...
Talking about repairing old clouds and high temp adhesives, take a look at these:
http://www.cotronics.com/vo/cotr/ea_electricalconductive.htm
Temps from 450 to 650F
Talking about repairing old clouds and high temp adhesives, take a look at these:
http://www.cotronics.com/vo/cotr/ea_electricalconductive.htm
Temps from 450 to 650F
Buildozer
Baked & Fried
Are you talking about this??
11eleven11
Well-Known Member
Yeah that's it. Nice job. I may try to build one for fun, but I'd have to find a guide or something. I want to use it to cool down my glycerin chamber quickly.
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
That's what I've been looking at. The 650 rated one. Wonder how much the 2oz package costs....
Edit: I don't believe the heater is in the air path.
SnidelyWhiplash
Well-Known Member
No, I'm talking about having the cloud upside-down sitting balanced on my 18inch stemless bong sidecar. I used to do it with my herbalaire and it was some champagne and limousines treatment. Felt really bionic and pampered... hahaha.
MonsterWithoutBorders
Philosophim
That is very true. I hope to offer a deal to fix clouds in the near future. Just got to do a few tests. Stay tuned.
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
There ya go! I'll leave it to the pros then. Excited to see the results.
vapordave
Member
I had a non-ticker that was upgraded to a cloud+. both worked and are working fine. the cloud+ seems to have the heater up higher on the glass as my GonG is so hot it will cook the ELB contents. if left for about 15 minutes the contents will basically be useless. However it will not cook if a hyrdatube is on it (acting as a heat sink). the downfall of that is the hydratube heats up. not good if you want a cool inhale. but good if you want a nice warm wet feeling. mmm baby. i digress. The plus also runs cooler. I am guessing because the heater is closer to the ELB so can run at a lower temp. The downfall of this is that there is some cooking goin on because of the higher heat in the ELB end. pros are the load is easier to vape and slightly larger clouds.
Its all gives and takes. In a product if you get to a point where any attempt to make the product better just results in an equal con, you are pretty close to a perfectly balanced design.
That to me is the beauty and effectiveness of the cloud.
I have measured with a thermocouple the inside surface of the glass where the heater is to be... are you sitting... 800-900F! this is on a cloud+.
I went into the indiegogo for a trade in. The next level was $250 more and you get to keep your warranty and also a pretty cool turbine hydratube. so I upgaded to that level. working cloud+ here! AND I bought another as a spare. Soone I will have a 3 cloud family!
Its all gives and takes. In a product if you get to a point where any attempt to make the product better just results in an equal con, you are pretty close to a perfectly balanced design.
That to me is the beauty and effectiveness of the cloud.
I have measured with a thermocouple the inside surface of the glass where the heater is to be... are you sitting... 800-900F! this is on a cloud+.
I went into the indiegogo for a trade in. The next level was $250 more and you get to keep your warranty and also a pretty cool turbine hydratube. so I upgaded to that level. working cloud+ here! AND I bought another as a spare. Soone I will have a 3 cloud family!
MonsterWithoutBorders
Philosophim
Working on it this week.Yea, man. If you you could figure out a way to fix these, you could do some business. I would just like it as a backup
Anonymouse
Sith I care
That'd totally work, but to achieve the same end even more effectively, I'd recommend using a vapour lung.
Versus the positive pressure of the downstream pump, the high negative pressure the lung generates seems to aid extraction. Evapouration occurs more readily in a lower pressure environment, which means the same volume of air passed over your substrate, at the same temperature, will be able to pick up more goodies.
Plus a lung can easily pull arbitrary flow, and fill as slowly or quickly as you want. It's pretty nifty to see a 2 litre hit of vapour just magically appear in a bottle over as little as two seconds. The fountain of thick vapour gushing up to fill the vacuum space is a pleasing sight. They're just fun to play with.
And if you make a lung with an 18 to 14mm reducer as the opening (the most common design), after you fill it with vape you can plug it straight on a water pipe (that's been adapted to 14mm male), and hit it filtered. Unlike bag vape, this stuff is thick (thick as the later part of a long draw, or even signifiantly more so), so the water helps.
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gigaurora
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BIG day today, the Sox are world champs, the kids are all ready to trick or treat, and the first batch of EVO's are going out!!
Way2 is a happy guy!
I hope you dressed your kid up as the VapeXhale monkeys and just didn't tell them what monkeys they were
VapeNStone
Mark
so why would you use a VXL to fill a bag just to put it in a waterpipe? Wouldn't you just use the cloud first and skip the bag step? I mean the vapor lung is cool but that defeats the purpose, don't you think?
Anonymouse
Sith I care
It was being suggested as an alternative to sticking a pump on the bottom, not normal use. Both solutions take the load off your own lungs, and there's a bunch of reasons why users might want to that, ranging from medical concerns to laziness to simple variety. I find myself using mine with elbow packs in the Q a lot as it's so much less exertion than doing a long draw through the restriction (and even more so with the Solo!). Faster too, in that you can load a lung's worth of vape into a bottle, THEN into your lungs, and do both operations in less time than it's take to simply fill your lungs via conventional direct draw through the load.
I mentioned water tools because a lot of people seem to use these things dry only, and I was worried it might be seen as an either/or thing, or someone would think I was suggesting it instead of water. The lung vapour is a lot milder than direct vape, even though it's not water-filtered, because it's pre-cooled to ambient by the rapid expansion. However, it's still very dry, so there's definite benefit from water.
My EVO will be used direct most of the time, but I'll defintely play with the vapour lungs sometimes too. They're fun.
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11eleven11
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Variety is the spice of life.
If I wanted to use a bag with the VXL, I'd take a normal hit and all, then blow my hit into the bag. My friends and I sometimes do this thing called "the scuba" where you treat the bag as an air tank and breathe with it for a few breaths (putting thumb on bag opening and getting fresh air when necessary). Very efficient use of vapor.
If I wanted to use a bag with the VXL, I'd take a normal hit and all, then blow my hit into the bag. My friends and I sometimes do this thing called "the scuba" where you treat the bag as an air tank and breathe with it for a few breaths (putting thumb on bag opening and getting fresh air when necessary). Very efficient use of vapor.
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Anonymouse
Sith I care
I think I know what the herb of life might be.
I've been doing this as an austerity measure for years, but I've been calling it "rebreathing".
When I'm low on supply, I'll rebreathe the same hit until it exhales clear. Blowing big clouds is fun and all, but really wasteful, when that same hit slowly collecting on the room surfaces around you could instead have been several hits collecting on the walls of your lungs.
I like to flush out my lungs with a few fresh breaths between hits of rebreathed vape, as I imagine this largely avoids any potential CO2 concerns, although I suspect this may not actually be necessary. I'm no doctor, though, so standard disclaimer applies. Be careful.
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