Discontinued Vape-Or-Smoke Vaporizer

[charliedontsurf]

Halo, just to give you my opinions, the butane tank is small and must be filled frequently effectively vaporizing herbal material at 350ish F takes stacking of screens and much maintenance when packing and stirring to make sure they stay that way. I would honestly go MFLB. Some people are advocating using oily concentrates in their MFLB, using small hits and care to just allow it to occur only in one small corner of the box, and they report it working great. The batteries are a hassle, they can be a little pricy, and you will likely have to replace them after 6 to 18 months, but without a better flame arrestor setup and a higher quality lighter, I can't advocate the VOS very strongly at its price point versus the steadfast, reliable, lifetime-warrantied MFLB.

If their flame arrestor had four times as many holes that were appropriately smaller, I think that would instantly cut down on temperatures. Even a VG style ceramic of some kind would be great. That combined with a new, more reliable, less hot lighter would make the VOS a real contender.

 

[haolepino818]

Thank your for the response. You touched on allot of things that concerned me about the VoS. I have been racking my brain about another vape but the MFLB is a hard act to follow. I might just cop out for a PA which should help me conserve the batteries.

 

[T H E O R E M]

Hey THEOREM, did you get your VoS? If so, what are your thoughts on it? Dberm, how do you like it compared to the MFLB pertaining to usability. The battery charging seems more of a hassle than to just refill the butane tank.

i just got it today, so i cannot quite give u an accurate opinion yet. My INITIAL THOUGHTS however, i thought my unit was broken, due to the fact that for whatever reason the lighter wasnt igniting. At this time i have played with it more and seems to be functioning correctly. I used some tobacco in it. and it combusted it quickly. So thus far...i can see after toning the lighter flame down and adding more screens its possible to vape, i however will probably just use this primarily for smoking considering its design. and yes the butane tank is fairly small. Although not too huge a deal for me. So my primary concern so far is how consistent the unit will perform (lighter igniting) when you inhale.

ill report back after giving it more attention

 

[haolepino818]

Thanks for the reply and the review. I strictly vaporize so the smoke function never enticed me. I'll be sure to lookout for your review after you had some usage out of it.

 

[Dberm]

Here is what I do with my VOS that really transformed it for me. Now only my most perma-fried friends have trouble not combusting with it.

I put two screens in the bottom on the bowl, then use the "c" screen and put that in the bowl with two more screens held in by the c screen that cover the flame holes. I then turn my lighter down to almost the lowest setting. With this method you can hold the flame on during your entire hit and draw at a fast pace and you get a steady stream of nice thick vapor. This method also works great for use with bongs/bubs because you dont have to worry about draw speed or anything like that.

With the VoS you want to load small bowls that have room to shake in the bowl piece. If you load too much you'll have to use the stirrir, and that eliminates some easy of use as well as stealth. It also forces the hot air through the holes, unevenly vaping the weed. Just dont load too much and it will be fine.

You need to refill the vos with butane about every 3-5 bowls. Refilling takes two seconds and one small bowl (about half a MFLB trench size) gets me on par with a full trench off the mflb.

 

[Dberm]

As far as usability while on the go, it definitely goes to the VOS to me. One handed operation and just easier to use once you get it down IMO. I can pull it out and take a rip instantly and sneak it back in my pocket without even having to look at the device.

As far as concentrates go VOS gets my nod even when comparing stock, but when you add the atomizer to the VOS it simply is the easiest way I have ever seen to injest concentrated besides eating.

Also I haven't ran out of a can of butane yet and I dont even know how long I've had this thing now! And I am definitely a heavy user of this device!

From what I've seen this company has a history of good customer service aside from a window when they were moving from here in Seattle to Arizona. I had the opportunity to talk for a while with one of the owners and he was super nice, even gave me a free lighter just in case anything happened to mine (no problems yet... Knock on wood!). He said they do have a full warranty on the lighters for like 6 months and replace them free of charge.


Also just want to say that I'm in no way affiliated with this company. I actually work for Puffin Glass in Seattle and just wanted to speak up on behalf of a product I've been super stoked on!

 

[haolepino818]

Interesting...thanks for tips you use. I like how the half bowl size gets you there. The MFLB was already pretty efficient but to increase that...thats a good deal!

 

[VapeNStone]

I am going to pick this up eventually. I am going to start a little collection of vapes. But the nice thing I like about this(besides the fact that you have to load it with 12 screens just to get it to vape) is its stealthyness. being able to pull it out and take a drag without having to take your eyes off of what your doing and on lookers mostly have no idea what the hell it is(probably think its some meter you have for something). Its just that $129 piece tag that bugs me. Oh well I will pick it up one of these days.

 

[T H E O R E M]

great, looks like mine doesnt even ignite a flame on any lower setting and doesnt seem to provide enough butane. it only functions on highest settings to ignite. so considering id say my lighter is bunk. wonderful

what luck already lol, ive emailed customer service still waiting

 

[Dberm]

great, looks like mine doesnt even ignite a flame on any lower setting and doesnt seem to provide enough butane. it only functions on highest settings to ignite. so considering id say my lighter is bunk. wonderful

what luck already lol, ive emailed customer service still waiting

Make sure your lighter is full and know that you have to begin inhaling THEN light the flame. Air has to be getting to the spot between the bowl and the lighter or else it burns through the small amt of oxygen in that space quickly and wont light.

 

[Dberm]

The lighter really isn't as iffy as people make it out to be. Just make sure you've got your PAWL inserted correctly as that seems to break the lighter if its not.

Just for reference, I've only had one lighter so far and its still working fine. Been using this daily for over a month now.

 

[fbrinsley]

i had the first vos and was able to trade it in for the ninja version. i will say that all my friends love my vos but it's always used for the s and not the v. the vos imo is a horrible vape option. i use my mflb for daily use and my silver surfer w/ water and ice filtration for getting ripped. the vos goes with me to the golf course and i just deal with smoke for a few hours. it's the only time i ingest smoke. i did get the new rectangular shaped screen with the new ninja version and i was able to vape lightly but it was basically a waste of time.

 

[T H E O R E M]

The lighter really isn't as iffy as people make it out to be. Just make sure you've got your PAWL inserted correctly as that seems to break the lighter if its not.

Just for reference, I've only had one lighter so far and its still working fine. Been using this daily for over a month now.

ive been doing it correctly the whole time. Its just that the lighter would not go down from highest settings and still work. I havent gotten a response from VS customer service since i emailed them earlier this week.

 

[T H E O R E M]

Got a replacement. thanks to the smoke shop being so great with it. VOS never answered my email so i would never get this product if starting all over considering their customer service isnt around.

Aside from that, the new unit performs great,. and i was able to vape quite easily with a low flame, and medium/quick draw. But smoking is definitely its forte. i find it way more convenient for that purpose.

 

[Dberm]

Sounds like it may be a butane problem to me. What brand are you using?

-edit- glad to hear you got it sorted out! Just out of curiosity how many screens are directly covering the intake holes on the bowl piece?

When I use mine with the 2 circular screens stacked in between the rectangular screen and the intake holes and the flame setting on low and using a medium to fast inhale I find that the first full inhale heats up the bowl and produces little to no vapor. On the second inhale the bowl is warm and I am able to get thick visible clouds of vapor that are full of awesome flavor and leave my head buzzing heavily upon exhale.

 

[DeepFried]

great, looks like mine doesnt even ignite a flame on any lower setting and doesnt seem to provide enough butane. it only functions on highest settings to ignite. so considering id say my lighter is bunk. wonderful

what luck already lol, ive emailed customer service still waiting

Make sure your lighter is full and know that you have to begin inhaling THEN light the flame. Air has to be getting to the spot between the bowl and the lighter or else it burns through the small amt of oxygen in that space quickly and wont light.

Doesn't that mean you are constantly inhaling raw butane? Especially when it fails to ignite instantly. You are sucking down butane before the spark can ignite it. Pass for me.

 

[Dberm]

Constantly inhaling? No because the flame burns blue when lit, meaning that the butane is burning completely.

When you fail to light the lighter yes you can sometimes inhale a little butane. But think about smoking using a bic lighter, you'll never see a blue flame on those meaning the fuel isn't burning completely either.

 

[Dberm]

I kinda feel like I'm one of the only people who likes this device! Is there anyone else out there who is having a good time and getting monster rips from their vos??

I want to make a video soon here to show the massive vapor rips this thing is capable of delivering.

 

[T H E O R E M]

I find it easiest to vaporize with about half the bowl packed. I use just the one screen on a medium low or low flame. And yes once the bowl gets hot it starts working well. Maybe ill add more screens next

 

[Dberm]

Definitely agree about the bowl back. I tend to load about half as well, then it leaves room for the material to be shaken around. If I pack the bowl full then I end up just burning whatever is in front of the holes and the rest remains unburned.

Give the screens a go if you give a chance. Basically makes it take one full drag to get warm, which means its taking longer for the bowl to heat up which means easier vaporization instead of combustion.

 

[T H E O R E M]

at some point (most for shits and giggles) i want to pack a small amount in there and place a round screen over it, holding it in the back and also possible spreading the heat around better.

so far though im pretty happy with it as a stealth device

 

[Dberm]

Just picked up my VOS again after not using it for a while and I realized how excited I am to use this thing during the snow season!

One question though, do butane lighters have problems lighting in cold environments or at high elevations?

 

[Dberm]

Alright so I've got a few things to add. I got the atmoizer cartridge a while ago and had been using it with pretty decent success, but I always seemed to have a problem with oil leaking through the atomizer before being vaporized. I also didnt help this problem by poking my dabber too hard into the screen, causing a hole in the mesh.

Well I think I just found an AWESOME solution to the leaking oil and the damaged stock screen! First things first, I had to remove the old screen. I did this by pushing my dabber through the intake hole and forcing the back of the housing apart. After removing the old mesh I took some super fine stainless steel mesh screen (almost identical to that in the mflb) and cut a strip a little wider than the body of the atomizer. I then used my dabber to force the ss mesh into all the crevaces in the atomizer and made it look all neat and tidy before putting the back of the housing back on.

No oil to test it out yet, but assuming the airflow isn't impacted too much I think this should greatly improve this nifty little atomizer!

 

[Dberm]

Was able to scrounge up enough oil for one load in this thing and I am stunned! I have never got this effect from the atomizer with oils before!

The airflow is somewhat more restricted than before, but man this thing rips. Out of that dab I put in I got 2 awesome hits that seriously rivaled a rip from a ti slide!

I may need to make a video or something showing how well this works. My friend has some oil so I'm going to link up with him later on and I'll find out exactly how well this new mod works!

 

[Dberm]

Alright so from left to right: atomizer body, atomizer backing, my mesh stash, stock mesh ball.

As you can see, the stock mesh ball is very loosely packed. For me this meant that my oil would heat up and melt straight through the mesh ball and out the back of the housing, coating everything in oil and leaving me sober and upset. With the new stainless screen stack it simply works! The oil melts through the first few layers of mesh, but it is completely vaporized before it reaches the end of the screen stack.


Honestly this may be the easiest/fastest/simplest way to ingest oils that I've ever encountered. Once it's loaded there is no wait time, just light and enjoy!