shade-tree vapor engineer
Amazing company here. My first stop when looking for log stuff. Which leads me to this...Send Underdogette a message and she'll help get you set up.
ok forgive me thread but while I eventually will read all 360 odd pages of this discussion, I think I need to ask some noob underdog questions to the experts here so I can get some quicker answers before I contact underdogette
First I want to say I absolutely love the aesthetics of the pieces underdog put out. I've wanted one for over a year, and the reason I initially was drawn to log vapes were the wood options available and the how unique each can be.
That being said, I'm looking for a smaller/slimmer dog. The pop can comparison is helpful on the site (I did have to go buy a coke I tell you whut), but is there a sort of average height/diameter or are they all very varied? Am I better off just asking for specifics on units pictured that I'm interested in directly?
Next, since I'll probably be picking based on looks and size - Does material or size play a factor in heat retention for the units? I'm hopeful to not get a vvps (at least at first), so I just want one that can be popped on a bubbler and perform. Is the consensus that I should be fine with most units for that?
Do the gongs add much height to the unit (maybe I just need to see a picture of one)? Is there a consensus about the best way to connect to a bubbler or third party gongs i should know about?
Thanks guys, sorry for all the questions.
What enables increased performance out of the NonGs? It is possible to get a shorty gong instead of a regular one included with purchase?You'll get max performance out of the Nylon Stems and NonGs (for the bubbler) but the Glass Stems and GonGs also benefit from the increased heat.
Standard GonGs are quite tall at just under 5", if you want shorter you can get the Shorty GonGs or NonGs which average around half that length.
Dave, out of curiosity, how did you up the heat output? Was it a change in design? Resistor? Dog chow?
Thanks for all the info. You are a true testament to customer service both here and on reddit. It's really refreshing. I just have a few more questions.
What enables increased performance out of the NonGs? It is possible to get a shorty gong instead of a regular one included with purchase?
Lastly, do you have a favourite wood you've worked with lately?
This sounds intriguing! How does the SS heater cartridge work compared to the typical resistor of yesteryear?First off I've been slowly moving standard production UDs (vs custom ones) over to our custom stainless steel heater cartridges instead of the typical resistor.
This sounds intriguing! How does the SS heater cartridge work compared to the typical resistor of yesteryear?
As a result of their intentional design the cartridges are more robust. They have heavier nichrome elements (the heat making part), swaged on leads instead of welded/soldered and the casing is stainless steel instead of glass/ceramic. The cartridges are designed to operate at up to 1400°F so the measly temps we use them at are a walk in the park by comparison.
OK Dave tempt me up here. What do you have for exotic looking twigs with the new core? Also can every twig have the shiny finish on those new claro walnut pieces? What's the finish made of (just curious) it looks nice.
I think I need a nice super exotic twig. I'd love to have my jester serving up aromatherapy scent all day, with a twig there to sit on top of my Möbius.
I'm getting an underdog undergraduate education here, it's sweet.
So do all the dogs (non air) currently for sale have the new core? I'm going to try and place my order today. Picking a wood is the most difficult part it seems.
I think all but the aircore and the sale prices ones have the new core, if I understood him correctly? Now I need another dog!
Whats the difference between a lost dog..twig...monkey pod..air cores? Sorry if repeated question.
Any of the twigs left in that claro walnut bundle? Looking for just the right twig. Not sure what wood to use, thats really the only decision to make. I definitely want another twig
GORGEOUS!!! STUNNING!!! BEAUTIFUL!!! UNIQUE!!! EXQUISITE!!! WOW!!! ENJOY!!!!!Quick Preview and first day opinion on the Underdog Log.
This Buckeye Burl dogg showed up yesterday afternoon. I snapped a fast teaser photo on my phone but plan to use my gf camera to get some high quality pictures once i get the chance.
First off this is my first log vape I was going in off the positive feed back of fellow FC members. Once i got the dogg warmed up I reached for the direct draw first. I was able to get instinct big rips with out restriction other than the pack of the herb. I then used it thru water with a nong and it was a little different to use since the nong does not lock into place, in other words not a hands free set up. But the hits were amazing really smooth. Next I reached for the whip and felt just like my old vapor bros box minus the huge bowl and long hose haha. I really enjoyed having the whip experience since parting with my VB box in spring last year. The nylon stem worked pretty good as well nice flavor over all. Finally not to be forgotten the aroma cups with a few drops of the orange oil and some bees wax the over all experience has been a pleasant one. With the cup and whip its like a mini hand held vapor bros box. With any stem using the SS tip its like a few great hits almost the one hitter but just a few more closer to 4 or 5 on avg so far. With the direct draw that will get u ready couch locked if using solo. I'm taking the dog to over my friends house tonight to continue breaking it in. He has been only vaping with hammer since i sold him it 3 months ago, so im curious to what he thinks since he is the only one of my friends that has realized that vaping is the best way.
Any ways thought i would chime in with a little feed back of the first impressions with are nothing short of outstanding.
@underdog & @underdogette Thanks for bring this pup to life for me and doing it in such a quick easy and unique manner. This whole experience has got me even further interested in this underground community vaping. The chance to work with quality small businesses and not give money to big companies and corporations makes me feel a lot better about this world. In some respects this world of big business has grown "too big to fail" but in others it already rebuilding from the bottom up. To support the rebirth of america and small business is an honor i hope to spend a life time contributing to.
@Snappo & @Ed's TnT this wouldnt be concluded even if it was suppose to be a short post with out a huge thanks for all the help and great craftsmanship your guys bring to the table.