little maggie
Well-Known Member
I have no idea how to use a WPS. Can it be used to lower the internal temperature of the UD? If so are there any simple ones that someone low tech can figure out?
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
The VVPS (variable voltage power supply) can lower or raise the temperature. It doesn't go by actual temperature readout but rather by volts, so instead of setting it to, say 380, you would set it on something like 11.5v. Less volts means less energy means less heat being produced in the core which means lower temperatures. Likewise, going higher up in volts will make it hotter and hotter.
little maggie
Well-Known Member
Thank you. Is there one that's simple to use and if so where could I get it?
HellsWindStaff
Dharma Initiate
Using the 14mm stem as just a direct draw as as someone said...works pretty nice, my lips don't get that funny feeling, just got to move them around a bit, and I kind of love chiefing on it. Most importantly, its real convenient as I can pack a stem and take hits periodically over a period of time while doing w/e. The water pipe is nice, but my set up currently is really bulky so its kind of a drag to set it up all the time.
A dogs life is a wild one though, let me tell you. I packed a pretty big stem (I've just left screens at factory level), and split it in half with kief, got high as hell but didn't really get that massive of a hit....literally right after, I pack the smallest amount of flowers though will let me produce 6-7 phenominally fat hits, and the weed isn't even that dark looking! I'm beating myself tossing this really nice looking AVB into my jar of Coco Crisps, but the UD is so great at extraction I honestly feel like it would take forever to get it that dark
A dogs life is a wild one though, let me tell you. I packed a pretty big stem (I've just left screens at factory level), and split it in half with kief, got high as hell but didn't really get that massive of a hit....literally right after, I pack the smallest amount of flowers though will let me produce 6-7 phenominally fat hits, and the weed isn't even that dark looking! I'm beating myself tossing this really nice looking AVB into my jar of Coco Crisps, but the UD is so great at extraction I honestly feel like it would take forever to get it that dark
darkrom
Great Scott!
Just ordered the GONG adapter 
My underdog has been running since the start of this thread pretty much.... 24/7 since then. I'll be using the gong with the hydratube I have. I'll post a video if I can.
I'll be using the same flamed up VVPS I've had since I got the UD.
This is by far my longest owned and running vape, and I suspect it will be the only one I keep forever. Its the only one will actual personality. The cloud is nice, but notice I'm going to be parting ways with the cloud...NOT the underdog? That speaks volumes in itself.
My underdog has been running since the start of this thread pretty much.... 24/7 since then. I'll be using the gong with the hydratube I have. I'll post a video if I can.
I'll be using the same flamed up VVPS I've had since I got the UD.
This is by far my longest owned and running vape, and I suspect it will be the only one I keep forever. Its the only one will actual personality. The cloud is nice, but notice I'm going to be parting ways with the cloud...NOT the underdog? That speaks volumes in itself.
Check
Well-Known Member
Im an efficiency and economic freak in general with all my expenses, but in the mj dept. Ive been known to be even more stingy. So one could figure why the UD intrigues the hell out of me, but I have some things I want to get cleared up before purchase.
Im not a water guy and dont really ever plan to be. So my UD would be strictly for dry use only. That being said, the silicone stem is no longer an option on the UD website and that was the main stem that I desired because of the apparent larger hit volumes. Not sure if I missed that conversation on the thread as to why its no longer available, but I was a little disappointed. Now if there is a better stem that Dave has made PLEASE do let me know.
Again, Im a dry guy.. and I know most log users are predominately water users as well, but I just want to ensure that the UD will be a good match for me without being too harsh on my throat since I don't use water. So for dry, is the general consensus on the best stem silicone as I thought I had found? Or could I be wrong, and/or maybe a predecessor has come along that I am unaware of? I dont know, but I'd appreciate anyone's help or input!
Im not a water guy and dont really ever plan to be. So my UD would be strictly for dry use only. That being said, the silicone stem is no longer an option on the UD website and that was the main stem that I desired because of the apparent larger hit volumes. Not sure if I missed that conversation on the thread as to why its no longer available, but I was a little disappointed. Now if there is a better stem that Dave has made PLEASE do let me know.
Again, Im a dry guy.. and I know most log users are predominately water users as well, but I just want to ensure that the UD will be a good match for me without being too harsh on my throat since I don't use water. So for dry, is the general consensus on the best stem silicone as I thought I had found? Or could I be wrong, and/or maybe a predecessor has come along that I am unaware of? I dont know, but I'd appreciate anyone's help or input!
Burn
Well-Known Member
i only use my underdog dry these days. i would get a gong and a nong for the different load sizes. ive never used the silicon stems but the gongs/nongs hit huge. i like the long gong dry thru a j hook. thats my preferred dry vaping setup. the gong alone can be a bit harsh, so i like adding the j hook to catch any particulate that gets thru the screen.
since they dont have the silicon anymore, you may wanna try the o rings with the gong. should seal as good as the silicon and its glass. but ive had no issues using the gong w/o o rings. also, a vvps is a good accessory to have to adjust temps.
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
@Check They still carry the silicone stems and the old style glass stem with the silicone bowl in the "Stems and Supplies" section on their web-store.
Pretty sure if you just ask you can get 'em included with a new dog instead of whats offered for your 4 stem choices when you order a new underdog.
I don't use water very often either and stick with dry hitting and usually use the old style stems with silicone bowls or straight silicone stems, I'm just getting used to the nylon and find I like 'em near as much as the silicone now also.
Pretty sure if you just ask you can get 'em included with a new dog instead of whats offered for your 4 stem choices when you order a new underdog.
I don't use water very often either and stick with dry hitting and usually use the old style stems with silicone bowls or straight silicone stems, I'm just getting used to the nylon and find I like 'em near as much as the silicone now also.
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little maggie
Well-Known Member
The silicone is one of the stem options when buying a new UD. Or was a few weeks ago.
StraightShooter
New Member
I as well would like to know more about the glue, as well does the glue come off easily to disassemble the unit. Any reason to disassemble the unit ?
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
Here's the answer to the post you quoted that had to do with glue.
I think Most of the Underdogs sold now are made of one type of wood.
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@Check - Silicone Stems are still available just not as part of the standard kit. We don't offer then as part of the 'kit' anymore because I feel they've been superseded by our Glass and Nylon stem lines. You can find them separately though on the Stem Page here.
The only glue used is Elmer's white glue to affix the leather bottom to the wooden body. Glue used to also be used to secure the power plug but that is no longer the case and hasn't been for a year or two. Air path contamination was never an issue as we use a solid stainless steel closed core design which is welded together. The glue for affixing the leather doesn't come off very easily but that should be a moot point as I designed the UD not to come apart once built. They're built extra robust so as to reduce any need for service as much as possible.
This is correct RUDE BOY, thanks for pointing it out as I didn't think about that when posting my first response. With the exception of a few multi-wood pieces that I found left over from the early UD days and that I am slowly building out and releasing as 'retro' type Dogs all pieces are now solid, single wood species Logs. The multi-wood pieces are glued up with white glue like with the leather bottoms. Again though, sealed core so should be no concerns either way.
The only glue used is Elmer's white glue to affix the leather bottom to the wooden body. Glue used to also be used to secure the power plug but that is no longer the case and hasn't been for a year or two. Air path contamination was never an issue as we use a solid stainless steel closed core design which is welded together. The glue for affixing the leather doesn't come off very easily but that should be a moot point as I designed the UD not to come apart once built. They're built extra robust so as to reduce any need for service as much as possible.
This is correct RUDE BOY, thanks for pointing it out as I didn't think about that when posting my first response. With the exception of a few multi-wood pieces that I found left over from the early UD days and that I am slowly building out and releasing as 'retro' type Dogs all pieces are now solid, single wood species Logs. The multi-wood pieces are glued up with white glue like with the leather bottoms. Again though, sealed core so should be no concerns either way.
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Magic9
Plant Enthusiast
From my own experience, I went from 7g a week with combusting, to 3.5g vaping with the CRZ. I am now averaging 2.5g with the UD. That's without any effort on my part to conserve and medicating several times a day. There's a lot of variables (mainly the quality of what you put in), but if an efficient powerhouse is what you're looking for, you found it.
With the regular glass stems, I noticed a higher air to vapor ratio than I preferred. The high temp o-rings should fix that issue though. I haven't tried them, but I'd bet a fully loaded stem and one of those o-rings would be monstrous clouds.
I came from the Zap family so I was used to the SS tip. I use the SS tip with the GonG stem and am both a dry and wet daily user. The SS tip allows me to load very small amounts (if you're a combuster, think one-hitter bat loads, but a little less), and get huge clouds. By the time the flavor is gone, the load is spent and a deep chocolate color. 1-2 of those to start, and then I just load and hit as needed through the day/night. Take a hit, set it down, and come back to it as needed. For efficiency and vapor density, I highly suggest either the nylon w/ SS tip, or my favorite, the GonG w/ SS tip (you can remove the SS tip and use a basket screen, or vice versa, so it's very versatile).
If you're new to vaping, try one of each and I dare you to NOT have fun deciding which one is your favorite.
Welcome to the pack. I've had mine for a year now. 24/7 except for a few power outages, and it still looks and performs like new. The only urge I have for other vapes, is more Underdogs.
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Check
Well-Known Member
Thanks Magic, I appreciate it. You hit on a lot of things that excite me and I am beyond ready to give my UD a go. Not necessarily new to vaping or this forum as I lurked a long time before making an acc. but I would say I still have some problems with abbreviations at times, but if I had to guess.. "SS" means silver surfer, correct?
Jericho99
Well-Known Member
This is a stupid question and I imagine its been asked before: is there any harm suffered to the Underdog in running it 24/7 plugged in with the Wall-wart? The only downside I can imagine is that it could dry out the wood, but I feel like that can just be solved with underbutter or any other wood finish.
I want to run mine 24/7, so I can use it a an ambient essential oil diffuser. Am I fine, or should I buy a VVPS to turn down the voltage, when not in vaping use?
I want to run mine 24/7, so I can use it a an ambient essential oil diffuser. Am I fine, or should I buy a VVPS to turn down the voltage, when not in vaping use?
KidFated.
Unknown Member
Is it up to temp? Is the material browning?Can anyone give tips as to how to get bigger hits? I have used the GonG and NonG stems. I am not getting big hits at all no matter what I do
Check
Well-Known Member
Thanks Stu, I would blame it on the NYE party favors, but Im afraid the mistake would be made sober as well. Much appreciated FC, haven't made a bad vape purchase yet because of you guys and I really do appreciate it. Often I find myself referring my friends to this forum bc often times my friends become very intrigued by my various vapes... And every single time I find myself raving about how Ive yet to EVER see a forum with outright generous and thoughtful people who go out of their way every single day to help people. Im serious, you guys are one of a kind, and on top of that you guys actually have good grammar and common sense. Its like there is an Anti-Troll system without actually having an Anti-Troll system. Anyways, sorry for the rambling, you guys and fellow dogs are awesome.. Can't wait to be proved right once again by my FC fam. 
Magic9
Plant Enthusiast
Can anyone give tips as to how to get bigger hits? I have used the GonG and NonG stems. I am not getting big hits at all no matter what I do
This NonG stem?
http://underdogvapes.com/vape-stems/nong
If so, you might be packing it too tight. How big of a piece are you hitting it through? Is it possible to post a pic of your material?
I get clouds like @paytonpenn
NickDlow
Log Hog
Thanks Stu, I would blame it on the NYE party favors, but Im afraid the mistake would be made sober as well. Much appreciated FC, haven't made a bad vape purchase yet because of you guys and I really do appreciate it. Often I find myself referring my friends to this forum bc often times my friends become very intrigued by my various vapes... And every single time I find myself raving about how Ive yet to EVER see a forum with outright generous and thoughtful people who go out of their way every single day to help people. Im serious, you guys are one of a kind, and on top of that you guys actually have good grammar and common sense. Its like there is an Anti-Troll system without actually having an Anti-Troll system. Anyways, sorry for the rambling, you guys and fellow dogs are awesome.. Can't wait to be proved right once again by my FC fam.
Welcome to the family. This community amazes me each and every day! Without this forum I would have never known about these and other amazing log vapes!! Given I'd have an extra 2 grand if I never joined here but it's a good trade off lol I love this place and these vapes!!