Thanks for the input/feedback guys.. anyone else out there who has some please join in as well.
@ EDA - yeah there was talk of a multi-user model but interest wasn't high enough to make it worthwhile to pursue. In reality it's just easier to pass someone a regular UD than to have a special multi-user device. Still though maybe one day I'll make a hookah Dog lol.
@ SirElton - whoa long time no see man, welcome back! Sounds like you're still rocking your Dog?
@ EDA - yeah there was talk of a multi-user model but interest wasn't high enough to make it worthwhile to pursue. In reality it's just easier to pass someone a regular UD than to have a special multi-user device. Still though maybe one day I'll make a hookah Dog lol.
@ SirElton - whoa long time no see man, welcome back! Sounds like you're still rocking your Dog?
SirElton
Well-Known Member
Its been my daily driver for quite some time. I've had no desire to pick up any other vapes. The UD is everything I need. And that last PS you sent me has been running strong too. Third time is the charm as they say. 
Hopefully soon I'll be able to order some of those new stems to try out. I've also got my eye on that Holey Oregon Myrtle model, but someone else with great taste will no doubt pick her up before I can. Great looking Dogs as per usual. Keep it up.
Hopefully soon I'll be able to order some of those new stems to try out. I've also got my eye on that Holey Oregon Myrtle model, but someone else with great taste will no doubt pick her up before I can. Great looking Dogs as per usual. Keep it up.
I've just joined the pack, received my beautiful walnut underdog this afternoon with a variety of glass and nylon stems. I'm loving it so far, it's quickly become my favorite log out of the group I have. Perfect size, weight and airflow, with a huge thermal mass that just doesn't quit. I'm running it on my miniVVPS at 13 volts and I'm getting Cloud sized hits out of it. It's incredible!
I've been enamored with it ever since I've got it. I've already applied two layers of polish
Sorry about that JJ420, not sure why your card was declined. I'm sure that bench supply is going to work well for you though.
I've been enamored with it ever since I've got it. I've already applied two layers of polish
Sorry about that JJ420, not sure why your card was declined. I'm sure that bench supply is going to work well for you though.
SpruceGruve
Bag of sand in hand,Eyeing up the gold statue
I notice most people leave their units on 24/7 for convenience sake,I'm wondering why no one uses timers at all?
If you don't work,or stay at home all day I can understand having it on all day.
But if you work 8-12 hours a day just have it on a timer that turns on 30mins before your done work and turns off an hour after you usually go to bed.
I started doing this with one of my vapes and thought I should share it with some log vape owners,The timers I'm talking about cost 7-15$ at a hardware store nothing fancy.
If you don't work,or stay at home all day I can understand having it on all day.
But if you work 8-12 hours a day just have it on a timer that turns on 30mins before your done work and turns off an hour after you usually go to bed.
I started doing this with one of my vapes and thought I should share it with some log vape owners,The timers I'm talking about cost 7-15$ at a hardware store nothing fancy.
I've seen a couple people who have their setups on timers, but I think that because log vapes are so efficient most people don't worry about the wasted power.
MileHighLife
Blower of glass, grower of grass
I also think that the repeated expansion and contraction of the materials will lead to the core loosening quicker than if it's left on 24/7. That's why my dog has only been cooled down a handful of times.
SpruceGruve
Bag of sand in hand,Eyeing up the gold statue
I never thought of the expansion/contraction,that's interesting
Good call
Good call
Any potential core loosening due to expansion/contraction was limited to very early generation UDs and is, generally speaking, no longer something to be concerned about.
The biggest cause of wear 'n tear on more modern Dogs is gradual degradation of the wooden body and the heating element from the heat of operation. I think a timer is a great idea if it suits a persons usage habits, in the case of Spruce's use he might see an increase in the Dogs lifespan by all those hours his timer has it turned off. Not insignificant.
The biggest cause of wear 'n tear on more modern Dogs is gradual degradation of the wooden body and the heating element from the heat of operation. I think a timer is a great idea if it suits a persons usage habits, in the case of Spruce's use he might see an increase in the Dogs lifespan by all those hours his timer has it turned off. Not insignificant.
MileHighLife
Blower of glass, grower of grass
This is a practice that I've used since I got my original dbv years ago. It was on 24/7 for several of those years because of the same beliefs (that the heating element would die quicker with constant expansion and contraction) and I'm still on my original heating element for that vape and have never had a single vape break down on me yet. Maybe it's luck but I'll keep going with my trend til I see physical proof that it's not the way to go ...
SD_haze
Well-Known Member
I think my Underdog is over 1.5 yrs old now,Any potential core loosening due to expansion/contraction was limited to very early generation UDs and is, generally speaking, no longer something to be concerned about.
The biggest cause of wear 'n tear on more modern Dogs is gradual degradation of the wooden body and the heating element from the heat of operation. I think a timer is a great idea if it suits a persons usage habits, in the case of Spruce's use he might see an increase in the Dogs lifespan by all those hours his timer has it turned off. Not insignificant.
and I can confirm the core has zero rattle or looseness when the vaporizer has cooled down.
As usual the 'right' way to use your Dog is however best suits you, to each their Underdoggy own is a common philosophy around here. What kind Underdogs would we be if we didn't all have our own ways of doing things?
Buildozer
Baked & Fried
I have been manipulating my UD to get at least 3 levels of vapor density.. I have been starting off lightly and stepping it up until it is done.. I honestly find that this is as much temp control that I need.. IMO that digital precision temp control is over rated, as far as being important goes.. IMO multiple approximate temp ranges work well enough..
SD_haze
Well-Known Member
Just by varying the distance between the herb & the heatport?
Buildozer
Baked & Fried
LOL.. I didn't realize that I even posted that..
Yeah, and by controlling airflow and the pack as needed.. and visual feedback.. I actually move it around during the hit to keep the visual feed back in the glass steady as I can.. I have been starting off from further away and walking it in once the vapor dies out.. I like it better than taking full blasts ATM.. My AVB is coming out a lot lighter than I am used to and seems just as spent.. I just use the vapor density as a visual gauge.. and flavor as another gauge.. I used to always just try to get a nice milk and then clear it.. but w/ all the talk of precise temp control, recently I have been messing around w/ low-med-hi temp ranges, and more conservative clouds.. I find that I don't care for more precision than that.
MileHighLife
Blower of glass, grower of grass
But they're pretty dern fun to play with. I found a sweet spot of 12.75 volts is the highest my dog will go before the flavor starts to drop off horribly so I've got it locked in at that voltage and do basically what you described ... start out just putting the tip of the core tube in the stem and over the 3 - 4 hits I keep putting it in further until the last hit when I insert it all the way. If I want to do a lower temp session I turn it down to 12.4 volts and do the same.
paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
I'm sure you guys have been thinking it and just don't want to say...
I really wouldn't mind a case (for the vvps) and a bed for my dog.
I was imagining a nice little wooden box to house the vvps where there would be easy access to the dial and good screen visibility. Also we should be able remove the vvps with ease.
The bed idea can be a part of the case (for the vvps), the underdog would sit on top or on the side in a designated area.
Would also be nice if there was room to put batteries in the box.
I know people would love taking their dogs for walks especially if they had a handy carrying case. I can't help but dream up a battery powered UD with the VVPS in my hand shaped like a retractable dog leash.
Or maybe you and CentiZen could team up for some custom vvps kennels for our dogs.
I really wouldn't mind a case (for the vvps) and a bed for my dog.
I was imagining a nice little wooden box to house the vvps where there would be easy access to the dial and good screen visibility. Also we should be able remove the vvps with ease.
The bed idea can be a part of the case (for the vvps), the underdog would sit on top or on the side in a designated area.
Would also be nice if there was room to put batteries in the box.
I know people would love taking their dogs for walks especially if they had a handy carrying case. I can't help but dream up a battery powered UD with the VVPS in my hand shaped like a retractable dog leash.
Or maybe you and CentiZen could team up for some custom vvps kennels for our dogs.
Hey payton, fun sounding ideas there, thanks! Alright everyone keep the ideas and fun coming, helps keep me motivated in the shop and motivated means more Dogs.
Speaking of more Dogs, I'm spending most of my day resawing a few hundred board feet of some really primo wood here - Rosewood, really nice Claro Walnut, some beautiful Cocobolo and Bocote both from Mexico. Other good stuff too..
Alright back to the saw..
Speaking of more Dogs, I'm spending most of my day resawing a few hundred board feet of some really primo wood here - Rosewood, really nice Claro Walnut, some beautiful Cocobolo and Bocote both from Mexico. Other good stuff too..
Alright back to the saw..
Blazein5
Well-Known Member
Hey guys not sure what to do, maybe ya'll can help. My wall wart died last night found out this morning, no big deal got another one plugged it in, dog doesnt get hot, so I tried a diffrent outlet still nothing. I get my back up twig works fine all day untill now, my other wall wart is dead. So now I have 2 dogs 2 wall warts and nothing works its saturday night super bowl sundays tommrow, any thoughts?
Weather was nice last few days no lighting, what makes two wall warts die within 24 hrs, just bad luck?
Now the big question where can I get a new wall wart or anything to get me vaping soon, anything I can find at walmart?
Thanks for reading
Weather was nice last few days no lighting, what makes two wall warts die within 24 hrs, just bad luck?
Now the big question where can I get a new wall wart or anything to get me vaping soon, anything I can find at walmart?
Thanks for reading
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Maybe try emailing Dave? He'll be able to help. Might be able to find something at Radio Shack or something like that. Dave will be able to give you the specs you need.
Hey Blazein, that's some serious bad luck or something there to have to wall-warts die back to back and on Superbowl Sunday weekend. Maybe that was all your bad luck for all of 2014 and you got it out of the way early?
Not sure how much luck you'll have finding a suitable power supply locally but send me a PM and we'll give whatever assistance we can. Might be able to advise and help you find a less than optimal local solution if nothing else for the weekend.
and/or
Do you or a buddy have a multimeter? If so you could cut the tip of one of your dead wall-warts and measure the wires directly for voltage. The most common point of failure for power supplies is broken wires in the last 6" so if you could find out if that's the case here you might be able to just stick a new tip on yours after cutting off the bad end section. Very easy to do, if you want to give it a shot send me a message and I'll tell what you need and where you could find it.
Not sure how much luck you'll have finding a suitable power supply locally but send me a PM and we'll give whatever assistance we can. Might be able to advise and help you find a less than optimal local solution if nothing else for the weekend.
and/or
Do you or a buddy have a multimeter? If so you could cut the tip of one of your dead wall-warts and measure the wires directly for voltage. The most common point of failure for power supplies is broken wires in the last 6" so if you could find out if that's the case here you might be able to just stick a new tip on yours after cutting off the bad end section. Very easy to do, if you want to give it a shot send me a message and I'll tell what you need and where you could find it.
paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
I don't have a multimeter and know very little about wiring so I hope my UD doesn't brake.Do you or a buddy have a multimeter? If so you could cut the tip of one of your dead wall-warts and measure the wires directly for voltage. The most common point of failure for power supplies is broken wires in the last 6" so if you could find out if that's the case here you might be able to just stick a new tip on yours after cutting off the bad end section. Very easy to do, if you want to give it a shot send me a message and I'll tell what you need and where you could find it.
But I recently bought a VVPS, unhooked my Wallwart plug, connected it back after testing the VVPS, when I awoke my UD was still cold. And if things couldn't have been worse the VVPS pooped out on me. I thought I was going to be without my UD for at least a week or so but I just cut off the rubber casing over the plug, cut off an inch from the cord and taped the ends back.
I used my MFLB + PA to test as it can change output power and give instant verification, had some cool (dangerous) smoke effects when initially placing the wiring without electric tape.
While typing this my UD has definitely been warming up and I'm ready for testing.
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Blazein5
Well-Known Member
Couldn't figure out how to add to the post above sorry, but the transformer is bad in both so no fix.
Looked at radio shack they had one that might work but out of the correct plug, so no go there. Good news is I found a lighter ha ha.
Underdog thanks for taking the time to pm me in such detail, I know you had better things to do on saturday night.
Looked at radio shack they had one that might work but out of the correct plug, so no go there. Good news is I found a lighter ha ha.
Underdog thanks for taking the time to pm me in such detail, I know you had better things to do on saturday night.