Alright, I did some cleaning and now can't even get much vapor at all out of my short tube, I will keep at it though to know for sure.
Meanwhile tried out the long tube and got 2 light cloudy hits well before the light turned green, then one and a half on green before I shut it off and took another hit as it cooled. The taste really is borderline unbearable frankly, but I will withhold final judgement until I can break it in more as you said
@paytonpenn , you are the T-Vape master.
I think part of the stong cumbusty taste may be how much this thing extracts at once, especially coming from a fully packed longtube. This thing really is like the one hitter vape, in that just one hit can really get you good with its full extraction.
But the thickness of the clouds and terrible taste made me worry it was more than vapor honestly. Once again I will keep at it and see if i can be sure, this is a new vape for me so hopefully I can figure it out and be more confident in it
EDIT: so after doing the whole bowl, i think up to 410 but maybe 20, AVB is mostly like charcoal, I guess its not burnt, but there's probably no point in saving it is there? Seems like crazy extraction is right. Also, I tried it with a combuster who didn't notice the taste as much as me so maybe I am just spoiled by other vapes?
Ran it through my D020-T bubbler as well, mouthpiece plugs right into the 18mm (and should do 14mm as well with the taper) and it was great. Going to try a whole bowl like this as it cuts the harshness and poor flavor and will improve my taste break-in time immensely.
EDIT2: well it looks like my short tube works as well! Got a decently long session with roughly half as much as the longtube, done entirely through the bubbler with a friend save for the first two hits before it turned green. When the hits started to get thin, I held the button to raise temp, and kept holding until it flash green twice (so two 20-30sec raises?) and got more clouds again, very nice to watch and use through the bubbler though it is still a little harsh that my throat is sorer.
So two different times later in the session I held the button to raise temp, so it seemed like I raised it higher and higher since it got more vapor again when I did, but I held it for a total of 4 20-30sec raises. So basically I'm still not exactly sure how the temp raises work, but I'm thinking of it this way for now:
start it up and enjoy as much as you can, then hold the button down to get temp boosts for more vapor, and keep doing those until you get no more.
AVB is a little more brown than black this time too so not as charcoaly so maybe it could have even gone further if I held the button down a fifth time?! I can really see this being an easy combuster-converter, as it essentially can function like a heavy one hitter or a joint (making it useful for the rest of us as well).
Onwards and upwards