Tornado by Vestratto

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
If anybody could be so kind as to share the OD and length of the "Vestratto" interface that attaches to the WPA section, I could post some renders and check some prices.

Previously I was thinking of just doing a universal 8MM stem available for conversion with an adapter, but I think it'd be just as easy to just make it Tornado specific if that's what folks would like to see. Most people seem to be saying they aren't going back to their Anvil so I'd rather make something more relevant for right now.

Please chime in if you'd rather see something Tornado specific or if you prefer the versatility of a standard 8MM connection.

Haha don’t worry I was just messing!

You need to do what’s right for your business. I’m sure whatever you choose to do there’ll always be buyers lining up. If that’s a Tornado stem then it’s all cool. We all want to see Phase3 up there with the big names

Personally I won’t be so interested in a Tornado stem as it doesn’t seem to need much cooling at hi temp compared to the viciously hot S3 vapour - so I’ll be going more for aesthetic and feel with a nice wood stem :D

Appreciate the kind words friend!
 

RedZep

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If anybody could be so kind as to share the OD and length of the "Vestratto" interface that attaches to the WPA section, I could post some renders and check some prices.

Previously I was thinking of just doing a universal 8MM stem available for conversion with an adapter, but I think it'd be just as easy to just make it Tornado specific if that's what folks would like to see. Most people seem to be saying they aren't going back to their Anvil so I'd rather make something more relevant for right now.

Please chime in if you'd rather see something Tornado specific or if you prefer the versatility of a standard 8MM connection.



Appreciate the kind words friend!
I would buy either.
 

Duba

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Accessory Maker
If anybody could be so kind as to share the OD and length of the "Vestratto" interface that attaches to the WPA section, I could post some renders and check some prices.

Previously I was thinking of just doing a universal 8MM stem available for conversion with an adapter, but I think it'd be just as easy to just make it Tornado specific if that's what folks would like to see. Most people seem to be saying they aren't going back to their Anvil so I'd rather make something more relevant for right now.

Please chime in if you'd rather see something Tornado specific or if you prefer the versatility of a standard 8MM connection.



Appreciate the kind words friend!
Tornado specific
 

Duba

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Accessory Maker
Does anyone have any more information on the secondary atomiser? Is it really just a narrowed section of the stem? Surely there must be more to it? Something is going on for sure. Too much smoke, with everyone saying the smoothness stands out
it could be that this 2nd atty (a constriction) accumulates quite a bit of heat during heating thanks to the copper surrounding it, and that thje vapor likes to pass through this warm, constricted passage.
 

PossumMD

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I've only had this piece for a week but for someone who heats exclusively with the Wand, this is the best tip I've ever encountered. Full stop.

The bowl is huge. The hits are huge. The flavor is phenomenal and with the Wand, I've been able to dial in pretty much any roast I want in seconds. I haven't combusted once 🤞and I feel I have good control over the heating. I've had over 10 bowls now and I've only heard it click twice. Both times it was unintentional since I like less heat and more flavor.

The vapor smoothness is really something special. It allows me to take bigger rips than I've ever been able to take from a "dynavap" style vape or even a portable ball vape like my Stunner or Dani. Also, it heats up in significantly less time.

In my eyes this is the reference to beat right now. Kudos to Vestratto. I'm kinda glad I skipped the Anvil and fell on this guy for my first product from them based on what I'm reading from Anvil owners. No disrespect to the Tempest, and I can't really compare as I don't own one, but I speculate I'd still like this guy better.

'Nuff said. I know we shouldn't discuss comparisons.
What's your numbers for the wand and where is it sitting in the wand? I ask cos mines a bit underwhelming in roast colour (still smooth as fuck and "does the job"), but if I bump it much more then the roast is red so I think where I'm holding it in the wand might be the issue.
 
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TigoleBitties

Big and Bouncy
What's your numbers for the wand and where is it sitting in the wand? I ask cos mines a bit underwhelming in roast colour (still smooth as fuck and "does the job"), but if I bump it much more then the roast is red so I think where I'm holding it in the wand might be the issue.
I bring the Wand down on top of the Tornado and let the top of the tip rest against the glass lip of the Wand.

Here's a link to the post with my timings. The pre-heat step is crucial but you only need to do this when starting from cold.

You may need to adjust these numbers + or - 1 flash or so. I actually really enjoy a light roast most times but the Tornado is so sensitive that you can get different shades of AVB by heating for a *single* flash more in a heat cycle. I find to get the darkest roast without being crazy dark, you almost want to hear the cap click *while* you're taking your hit. Personally, most times I don't want to hear the cap click.

Also, if you're happy with the taste and effects, I wouldn't worry too much about the AVB color.

Really enjoying this on the BFG Anvil stem i picked up from Wesleypipes.
So it works on the BFG stem with no adapter required?
 
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PossumMD

Well-Known Member
I bring the Wand down on top of the Tornado and let the top of the tip rest against the glass lip of the Wand.

Here's a link to the post with my timings. The pre-heat step is crucial but you only need to do this when starting from cold.

You may need to adjust these numbers + or - 1 flash or so. I actually really enjoy a light roast most times but the Tornado is so sensitive that you can get different shades of AVB by heating for a *single* flash more in a heat cycle. I find to get the darkest roast without being crazy dark, you almost want to hear the cap click *while* you're taking your hit. Personally, most times I don't want to hear the cap click.

Also, if you're happy with the taste and effects, I wouldn't worry too much about the AVB color.


So it works on the BFG stem with no adapter required?
Ahhhhhh, yeah, I'd seen that, doesn't work for me cos my brain can't gel with the count the flashes thing. All good though, I'll get there! Not super concerned about the colour of it cos I get the effects I want, but there is a good amount left if I chuck it in another vape.

And as for the click, when mine clicks it's still quite green, hasn't turned golden at all. Apparently not a unique experience going by comments I've seen in other groups, probably due to the click wearing in and simple variance.
 
PossumMD,

TigoleBitties

Big and Bouncy
Ahhhhhh, yeah, I'd seen that, doesn't work for me cos my brain can't gel with the count the flashes thing. All good though, I'll get there!
Oh that's too bad... although since each flash takes about 1 sec, you can pretty much use a timer and count seconds instead. 8 flashes = 8 seconds.
Not super concerned about the colour of it cos I get the effects I want, but there is a good amount left if I chuck it in another vape.

And as for the click, when mine clicks it's still quite green, hasn't turned golden at all. Apparently not a unique experience going by comments I've seen in other groups, probably due to the click wearing in and simple variance.
Well, I can get to a complete roast but it's takes me about 4 re-heats with a full bowl. I've posted pics earlier. Each re-heat only takes 8 seconds.
Are you looking for a one-and-done experience?
 
TigoleBitties,

Roffa

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If anybody could be so kind as to share the OD and length of the "Vestratto" interface that attaches to the WPA section, I could post some renders and check some prices.

Previously I was thinking of just doing a universal 8MM stem available for conversion with an adapter, but I think it'd be just as easy to just make it Tornado specific if that's what folks would like to see. Most people seem to be saying they aren't going back to their Anvil so I'd rather make something more relevant for right now.

Please chime in if you'd rather see something Tornado specific or if you prefer the versatility of a standard 8MM connection.



Appreciate the kind words friend!
not going back to the Anvil, so Tornado specific only for me.
 
Roffa,

electrokho82

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The Tornado + Wand in action, Video speed = 2X :

I’m sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but there’s a great discount on the Camouflet Inductor right now. I honestly don’t know if I wait for the forge revision or just buy that. I’m looking to use it with the Tempest, Anvil and Tornado. Any thoughts?
 
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Knewt

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If anybody could be so kind as to share the OD and length of the "Vestratto" interface that attaches to the WPA section, I could post some renders and check some prices.
OD is 0.439” (11.15mm), length is 0.527” (13.38mm). ID is 0.384” (9.76mm) and depth of ID is 0.364’ (9.1mm). These are all digital caliper measurements and this part varies in size due to manufacturing processes.
 
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Timps27

Feel like I’m winnin’ when I’m losin’ again
OD is 0.439” (11.15mm), length is 0.527” (13.38mm). ID is 0.384” (9.76mm) and depth of ID is 0.364’ (9.1mm). These are all digital caliper measurements and this part varies in size due to manufacturing processes.

How sensitive are your calipers? Those measurements seem to follow no logical standard. Although the dude does have an imperial hex in the cap, from basically the middle of the metric world. JV is clearly a mad scientist, because I’m not a dummy, but none of it make a lick o goddamned sense to me :hmm:
 
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ScruffyWoofers

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Accessory Maker
OD is 0.439” (11.15mm), length is 0.527” (13.38mm). ID is 0.384” (9.76mm) and depth of ID is 0.364’ (9.1mm). These are all digital caliper measurements and this part varies in size due to manufacturing processes.
The measurements I was given are:
Outside diameter of bowl is 11mm, inside diameter is 9.5mm. The total depth of bowl on outside is 13mm and inner depth is 9mm.

Note- Trying to measure the ID with callipers is somewhat prone to error. Ideally needs to measured with a bore gauge. When I finally receive my Tornado, I'd be happy to post my own readings.
 
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