Tornado by Vestratto
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For 10$ more than an Omni I'm certainly willing to give it a shot 
I'm counting the days.
I wanted the forge for my anvil anyway
I'm counting the days.I wanted the forge for my anvil anyway
BreadStick
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Reading about gasification I'm getting confused about how it relates to dry herb vaporizing. Everything I can find describes gasification as a technique to pull hydro-carbons out of raw materials like coal into a gas called syngas. The only hydrocarbons I see referenced are carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, hydrogen gas and methane. If we were actually gasifying the herb does that not mean we would be pulling all the cannabinoids out, turning them into harmful hydrocarbons and inhaling this syngas? I thought THC was meant to start degrading above 200C surely no cannabinoid would survive 700C unless you're doing something crazy with the air pressure?
To me it kind of seems like gasification is being used as a marketing buzzword to make it seem like the wheel has been re-invented. I still have faith the tornado will be a great vape but curious to see how different it will really be to the Anvil.
To me it kind of seems like gasification is being used as a marketing buzzword to make it seem like the wheel has been re-invented. I still have faith the tornado will be a great vape but curious to see how different it will really be to the Anvil.
Comfortably Numb
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This probably would be easy to achieve with a different ratio of metals between the two chambers...we are guessing here but if this is true then this may only work with the Forge...bummer
Jojofernz
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Yeah unfortunately I think that was the plan, he seems pretty focused on it being induction powered and forge probably only thing that can operate it.
Wonder if it can even work with a torch but doubt it. I’m sure that’s why they were bundled together, need one to work the other!
Darth Gram Gram
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The terminology used with all of this is definitely marketing and "bro science," but I will say that several makers here have made impressive devices. I don't believe there is gassification going on here, but there are things happening with vaporization that we don't quite get yet and I am excited to see what comes next.
jardri
Vapor Dreams
It´s not properly used. What happens when vaporizing is this: the thinner particles are, the deeper they penetrate lungs, so efficiency and potency increases. So the goal is to make vapor particles as small as possible and this is what they call gasification or biogasification.
leanpubpackage
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I’m not convinced yet of the golf balls, but I don’t care much for it
At worst, I get another heavy hitting vape that’s optimized for the forge at a steep discount
At worst, I get another heavy hitting vape that’s optimized for the forge at a steep discount
I don't know what to say about this ball business, except that in absolute terms, I'd rather play basketball.
On the other hand, I remember John saying once, at the start of the Anvil, that his goal could be summed up in 3 words: vapor, vapor, vapor.
The goal having paid off, it's with great impatience that I await this Tornado, all the more so if this "3balls theory" has already been running through his head for 2 years.
He's a great engineer, I'm a poor stoner.
On the other hand, I remember John saying once, at the start of the Anvil, that his goal could be summed up in 3 words: vapor, vapor, vapor.
The goal having paid off, it's with great impatience that I await this Tornado, all the more so if this "3balls theory" has already been running through his head for 2 years.
He's a great engineer, I'm a poor stoner.
Timps27
Feel like I’m winnin’ when I’m losin’ again
You could achieve distribution with material differentials, but it would be imperfect and likely prohibitively expensive. This is why large companies stick to puffery unless they have substantial peer reviewed evidence. Using a specific scientific term puts an objective measure against your claim.
BreadStick
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Does anyone know if all pre-orders are set for delivery in July or are they offering spots in each production run? I ordered on the 420 and the delivery date was meant to be around May 15th, have these all been pushed back to July?
Edit: I emailed Vestratto and was told the kits ordered on 420 should still be delivered in the middle of May
Edit: I emailed Vestratto and was told the kits ordered on 420 should still be delivered in the middle of May
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Fox
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Hallo Leute, die gleichzeitige Erwärmung von zwei verschiedenen Massen im IH führt dazu, dass die untere Masse heißer ist als die größere Masse, und so ist es möglich, den Kondensator im Tornado heißer als den Ofen zu machen und den Dampf, der durch den Kondensator strömt, in kleinere Partikel zu zerlegen (Vergasung). Was haltet ihr von meinen Gedanken, Freunde?
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Zuhdj
Charles Mingus
I mean I'm still gonna buy one lol. Semantics 
Whether it's bioavailability, bigger bowl, or different oven design that causes it to hit harder (or all three) then I'm here for it. The og anvil constantly wins my reach test and that's without any cool upgrades. V excited for my new brass one with xl mouthpiece to come in. So this may take its place on the bubbler. Well see
Whether it's bioavailability, bigger bowl, or different oven design that causes it to hit harder (or all three) then I'm here for it. The og anvil constantly wins my reach test and that's without any cool upgrades. V excited for my new brass one with xl mouthpiece to come in. So this may take its place on the bubbler. Well see
Sidoney
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I caved and think I got the last Tornado bundle for July! I'm so keen - been waiting for the Forge to be released since last year but I'm now so, so interested in the Tornado.
I've never hit the subliminator before so not sure what to expect (flower kettle + electropath is also meant to be similar I think and that's on my list for down the track too) . How much different do we think the experience will be to say the XL bowl through both a water piece and hitting natively?
It's killing me we don't have any videos of the thing in action or any sort of insight from anyone outside what was said on the SneakyPete livestream + website hahaha.
I've never hit the subliminator before so not sure what to expect (flower kettle + electropath is also meant to be similar I think and that's on my list for down the track too) . How much different do we think the experience will be to say the XL bowl through both a water piece and hitting natively?
It's killing me we don't have any videos of the thing in action or any sort of insight from anyone outside what was said on the SneakyPete livestream + website hahaha.
Roffa
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Reader, I ordered one. There was a window of opportunity and I sneaked through it. My other vaporizer is an Anvil and I have a lot of faith in the Vestratto development team. Up till now, every design innovation on the Anvil has also been an improvement and a step forward. The Tornado is the next iteration of the Thermocore.
AndyO
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Hadn't even occurred to me until reading the thread that the Tornado may only be available with a Forge, cos it may need a forge to heat it.
Not sure how I feel about that. It certainly prevents it from being a portable unit for my purposes. Makes it expensive too.
I'd like to think that I'll wait for it and see how it pans out... but I know what I'm about, I'll almost certainly end up getting one if I happen to be online when more come up for pre-order.
Not sure how I feel about that. It certainly prevents it from being a portable unit for my purposes. Makes it expensive too.
I'd like to think that I'll wait for it and see how it pans out... but I know what I'm about, I'll almost certainly end up getting one if I happen to be online when more come up for pre-order.
I already bought a render, at this point I am ready to buy a picture
I am normally patient but I am dying for an action shot of this bad boy!
Tomorrow release?
Smknbud
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This was posted today on Vestratto Discord.Tomorrow release?
“We will know about the Tornado in a couple of days. We are releasing the standalone Forge and Forges with Anvil Orders in the order from which we have received the orders on April 20. We will advise Forge and Tornado buyers the status of their Orders as soon as they are released to us for shipping.” Admin at Vestratto
This was posted today on Instagram:
"Thank you all so much for your patience as we have been working through your orders from 420!
We are overwhelmed by the support our Anville community has shown with this release and cannot thank you enough.
We are pleased to announce that the Vestratto Forge has arrived and will begin shipping out today!
We thank you in advance for your continued patience and want you to know we are committed to fulfilling your order as quickly as we can!"