Tornado by Vestratto

[tots]

J'ai essayé avec un petit briquet tempête et l'avb était plus foncé comparé à un autre chauffage que j'utilise (un vector 3 flammes) qui logiquement chauffe plus vite... Et le résultat était bien plus net avec le vector car trois flammes et j'ai vraiment préféré l'expérience pour ma part.. Après c'est vrai que les goûts peuvent changer d'une personne à l'autre et personnellement je préfère un avb doré plus foncé mais sans plus et le vector 3 flammes me convient parfaitement.. Je ferai une petite photo de l'avb comparé à un autre échauffement demain...

 

[prsqrd]

What’s everyone’s favorite heating method? I’m currently just using the wand. But I’m considering stepping that up to the camouflet inductor or maybe a premium torch.

I’m heating the tornado as well as the tempest.

I use a cheap torch.
Hit the Atomizer for 10-20secs from a cold start and then torch the near the top of the cap until it clicks.
Gives nice smooth OHE. To me, the hit this way is smoother than with the wand.

Haven't tried a big torch on the Tornado, but didn't like it on the Anvil. So I prefer a smaller flame.

 

[GlassWindows]

Tornado is gone from Vestratto website.

 

[coolbreeze]

Tornado is gone from Vestratto website.

It's like 'St. Stephen,' they had to stop because we liked it too much! ; )

 

[Bakin4Life]

Tornado is gone from Vestratto website.

The day I contact them, asking to be put on the next drop list... they remove the product in question.

 

[HoodiesAndHondas]

Yeah, I'm noticing the same. Slowly got used to loading it up all the way, but realizing that half bowls still get me baked. Also a bit easier to kill in one inhale.

Tornado + Forge is pretty much all I need right now. No VAS here.

Agreed. It’s really weird. One night when I didn’t really want to get blasted, just wanted to be a little buzzed before bed, I put in like 1/4 less than I usually do. But it somehow got me as high, if not higher, than my usual 3/4 full load.

I don’t get it. The only thing I can think of, is that it was just easier for air to move through the flower, giving more of an even roast (my roasts are always even, but maybe it was just more evenly roasted).

And I still don’t get how the Tornado gives way bigger hits and a stronger high, than using the same amount of flower in my Tempests and Dynavaps. Science is wild.

 

[RedZep]

The day I contact them, asking to be put on the next drop list... they remove the product in question.

They are probably just removing the listing to sell the Tornado as a complete unit with stem.

They will probably add the wpa as an optional accessory, like how they do it with the Anvil.

 

[Bakin4Life]

It's 'ok'. I'm used to Vestratto's customer care, having purchased from them before. Guess I'm a closeted masochist

(to be serious... it was more of an observation, vs a complaint)

 

[Wozz]

Cleared customs, looking good for Thursday

Got stung with an import fee though £45.24

 

[bridgesoid]

I’m considering stepping that up to the camouflet inductor or maybe a premium torch.

I’m heating the tornado as well as the tempest.

If you're considering an expensive purchase like the above you might like to consider giving an inexpensive torch like this one a try initially https://www.amazon.com.au/Professio...=XJfkd&pd_rd_w=T71hr&pd_rd_i=B0D4LQZLPV&psc=1

Turn the torch up nice and high and pop the tornado head in the heatzone just after the inner blue flame, the flame almost covers the entire head and secondary atomizer. Paint the head and secondary atomizer evenly and rotate at a comfortable pace... it's 8 seconds heating for OHE, 9 seconds for a very dark roast. Just count to 8 then remove, the nado will click as you're inserting it in to your rig or turning off the flame. I get better flavour and stronger hybrid effects the quicker I get the oven up to temp (less time for terps and volatile compounds to burn off).

By the way it doesn't need to be the torch linked specifically, just make sure the torch head you pick up has metal internals (if you prefer the look and feel of a silver chrome barrel and a plastic trigger like a standard dab torch in use, go for that) and fits this style of can of butane.. this will help ensure longevity of the torch vs plastic internals being subjected to intense radiant heat over time.

Another long term advantage of this style of torch over a premium torch is running costs. In the country I live in a 300ml can of Newport butane costs about 15 dollars US, while I can pick up 3 butane cylinders that fit this style of torch (total 700ml gas) for $2.80 US. That's a pretty massive saving over time.
Other tips: If you'd like to make the torch look a little prettier you can slide your favourite can cooler over the butane can.

If you're worried that yourself or others might not be able to count to 8 or 9 when you're orbiting the stratosphere you can idiot proof heat ups by sticking a cheap magnetic stopwatch with countdown timer/kitchen timer to the torch. Turn off the heat when it beeps, rinse and repeat. I hope that helps!

Edit: On the Inductor, I haven't used one but every finding and tip Roffa has posted in this thread has been completely on point and matched my experience exactly. I'd warrant he's dead on about the Inductor being amazing with the Nado. At this point in time the inductor very likely offers the most flexibility for dialling in your preferred style of hit quickly (It offers the ability to spot heat your Nado and TEDS and has the highest maximum wattage of all induction heaters that have been released thus far). If money wasn't an issue presently i'd love to pick one up.
I would still highly recommend picking up a torch first, configured as above you're getting something completely portable that has a heat up time very similar to the Forge V2 for a tiny fraction of the price. As Roffa says Inductor or not you'll still be wanting a torch handy

 

[Roffa]

Can you elaborate on that difference a little bit? When you say difference, is it a difference in how the device has you feeling or a difference in how your using it?

Also what was your previous heat method?

When I started out with Inductor, I was very cautious not to combust, so I kept to a low voltage, 22 V max, "painting" the device and pushed that up to 26 V. In the belief that I had to heat up the entire device with the Inductor. But I learned another way. Max voltage (28V), give short blasts of intense energy, let the copper in the device distribute the heat. Gives me the signature I like from torching (Anvil, Tornado too). I also vary the place where I place the ferro core. A bit lighter extraction to the top of the device, and when I place the ferro core over the inlet holes, I can get a lovely dark chocolate colored roast and RTL.

I also used a Wand with Tornado, and that left me underwhelmed. I think the Tornado shines when it's blast heated. The construction is so efficient at distributing heat. When I torch, I use one of these kitchen torches and blast the Tornado for a second, wait for the heat to distribute etc.

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

If you're considering an expensive purchase like the above you might like to consider giving an inexpensive torch like this one a try initially https://www.amazon.com.au/Professio...=XJfkd&pd_rd_w=T71hr&pd_rd_i=B0D4LQZLPV&psc=1

Turn the torch up nice and high and pop the tornado head in the heatzone just after the inner blue flame, the flame almost covers the entire head and secondary atomizer. Paint the head and secondary atomizer evenly and rotate at a comfortable pace... it's 8 seconds heating for OHE, 9 seconds for a very dark roast. Just count to 8 then remove, the nado will click as you're inserting it in to your rig or turning off the flame. I get better flavour and stronger hybrid effects the quicker I get the oven up to temp (less time for terps and volatile compounds to burn off).

By the way it doesn't need to be the torch linked specifically, just make sure the torch head you pick up has metal internals (if you prefer the look and feel of a silver chrome barrel and a plastic trigger like a standard dab torch in use, go for that) and fits this style of can of butane.. this will help ensure longevity of the torch vs plastic internals being subjected to intense radiant heat over time.

Another long term advantage of this style of torch over a premium torch is running costs. In the country I live in a 300ml can of Newport butane costs about 15 dollars US, while I can pick up 3 butane cylinders that fit this style of torch (total 700ml gas) for $2.80 US. That's a pretty massive saving over time.
Other tips: If you'd like to make the torch look a little prettier you can slide your favourite can cooler over the butane can.

If you're worried that yourself or others might not be able to count to 8 or 9 when you're orbiting the stratosphere you can idiot proof heat ups by sticking a cheap magnetic stopwatch with countdown timer/kitchen timer to the torch. Turn off the heat when it beeps, rinse and repeat. I hope that helps!

Edit: On the Inductor, I haven't used one but every finding and tip Roffa has posted in this thread has been completely on point and matched my experience exactly. I'd warrant he's dead on about the Inductor being amazing with the Nado. At this point in time the inductor very likely offers the most flexibility for dialling in your preferred style of hit quickly (It offers the ability to spot heat your Nado and TEDS and has the highest maximum wattage of all induction heaters that have been released thus far). If money wasn't an issue presently i'd love to pick one up.
I would still highly recommend picking up a torch first, configured as above you're getting something completely portable that has a heat up time very similar to the Forge V2 for a tiny fraction of the price. As Roffa says Inductor or not you'll still be wanting a torch handy

Interesting… my local market has something a lot like you linked and the cans to go with it. I’ll be going there Saturday for my usual greasy burger and chips so might pick one up.

I have a RONX medium kitchen torch which is excellent and can heat fairly fast, but not 8-9 seconds fast. I think when I use mine for faster heatups it’s in this no mans land of neither heat soaking the bowl like a slower heatup or dumping enough heat fast enough like your heatup. Definitely tasty but certainly not giving me that strong hybrid hit.

I’m currently finding that I get the best results trying to get a click at around the 30 second mark (at the cost of terps of course) so I wonder if this would be best of both worlds.

Thanks for writing this up! Look forward to giving your technique a go

 

[TedJones]

When I started out with Inductor, I was very cautious not to combust, so I kept to a low voltage, 22 V max, "painting" the device and pushed that up to 26 V. In the belief that I had to heat up the entire device with the Inductor. But I learned another way. Max voltage (28V), give short blasts of intense energy, let the copper in the device distribute the heat. Gives me the signature I like from torching (Anvil, Tornado too). I also vary the place where I place the ferro core. A bit lighter extraction to the top of the device, and when I place the ferro core over the inlet holes, I can get a lovely dark chocolate colored roast and RTL.

I also used a Wand with Tornado, and that left me underwhelmed. I think the Tornado shines when it's blast heated. The construction is so efficient at distributing heat. When I torch, I use one of these kitchen torches and blast the Tornado for a second, wait for the heat to distribute etc.

Works pretty good, thx for the tip. I’ve been at 24.5 or 25 with 3-4 seconds contact a couple of times on opposite sides. A quick re-heat zap for a second pull if I’ve got a full bowl loaded. Cranked it up and gave it 4 touches. Definitely more aggressive as I got both clicks during one pull and the bowl was definitely spent