Discontinued ThermoVape

jambandphan03

in flavor country
You should not use higher than 700mah batteries as far as I understand it, and you also need to be very careful about stacking unprotected batteries. If they get overloaded they can vent which is extremely volatile, and dangerous, as in explosive.
 
jambandphan03,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
sessnet said:
Screw the core back on without the O ring.

Now you can quickly test if it goes on (again) and you feel the heat. If that works, put the O ring back on, and screw it back on as much as possible.

-Pete

Sorry guys, extremely busy times here at ThermoVape. We're doing our best!

Pete, this is EXCELLENT advice. The o-ring is what make the core challenging to thread on. It IS the source of friction that makes it tight. If anyone is wanting to test their core or test if they are threading it on all the way during re-assembly, DO THIS. It is your test. It will confirm, resurrect, etc.

Cheers,

ThermoVape
 
ThermoVape,

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
I also recommend a complete understanding of the alignment process, of the outer Delrin sleeves, using the top cap as a guide and working down like TV does in their video. Misalignment of outer Delrin sleeves can cause puzzling problems.
 
t-dub,

exmilker

Well-Known Member
Hey im new to the vape scene, just got my TVt1 and Extreme Q.
was wondering if you guys line up the small holes on the side of the plastic sleeve to the holes on the inside metal part of ur T1, does it really matter if its lined up or not? and on my extreme q im able to vape until my herb is fully browned where as my TV im still able to see green, yet when i pull on it im not getting no vape, no taste but warm air.

overall i was super excited when i got my t1 but have not yet gotten to test it on the outside which im going to do very soon... when i ordered my t1 i was hoping i was going to be able to use it at home unit too as well as on the go, but after some research and testing with my two new toys im really glad i have a stationary and a portable.

so back to the t1 i know some of you guys are probably going to say mix the bowl which i do with my glass pokey that i got from my extreme q yet im still not able to achieve the same "browness" as my stationary toy, plus im not looking to bust out my glass stick in public just to mix up the bowl, so do any of you guys have suggestions on how you mix the bowl without being too obvious about it. i have thought about unscrewing the top a little bit and than giving it a shake but i dont want any herb to fall through the holes as im thinking that might cause some damage... so any tips would be greatly appreciated

anyone here have both T1 and Wispr, if so, if u had to choose between one for a portable which would it be?
 
exmilker,

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
exmilker said:
was wondering if you guys line up the small holes on the side of the plastic sleeve to the holes on the inside metal part of ur T1, does it really matter if its lined up or not?

It matters not. Enjoy.

Edit: Of course we are speaking about "clock" rotation here. I really recommend the video that TV provides on this subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmPx8kC518M&feature=player_embedded#

Viewing and understanding of this material is highly recommended.
 
t-dub,

pecosthecat

Well-Known Member
I take a few hits, mix a bit and then take another hit.... I normally fill the chamber about 3/4 full. If the herb is finely ground and quite dry/not too sticky, I then loosen the bowl and give everything a good shake. If the weed is more moist and/or sticky, then after the first few hits I dump the load into my palm, give it a good crunch up and then dump it back in the chamber. This only takes a couple seconds and can be done quite discretely.

I don't have a wispr, but I do have an iolite and for my requirements would go for the Thermovape if I had to choose one. However, everybody has different needs.

Comparing the ThermoVape to the Iolite:
  • The iolite is much more practical for long/multiple vaping sessions or for sessions with groups.[/*]
  • The flavor of the ThermoVape is much better than the iolite.[/*]
  • The vapor from the ThermoVape is much more dense than from the Iolite. The impact per hit is much stronger from the ThermoVape.[/*]
  • The hissing from the Iolite is a bit noisy. The ThermoVape is totally silent.[/*]
  • The ThermoVape can be completely cleaned and sterilized. It would be difficult or impossible to get the Iolite completely sterilized.[/*]
  • The Iolite is much bigger and more bulky than the Thermovape.[/*]
  • Since the iolite runs on butane, it can be recharged anywhere. This makes it much better for camping, festivals, etc where there is no access to mains power for recharging the batteries.[/*]


exmilker said:
so back to the t1 i know some of you guys are probably going to say mix the bowl which i do with my glass pokey that i got from my extreme q yet im still not able to achieve the same "browness" as my stationary toy, plus im not looking to bust out my glass stick in public just to mix up the bowl, so do any of you guys have suggestions on how you mix the bowl without being too obvious about it. i have thought about unscrewing the top a little bit and than giving it a shake but i dont want any herb to fall through the holes as im thinking that might cause some damage... so any tips would be greatly appreciated

anyone here have both T1 and Wispr, if so, if u had to choose between one for a portable which would it be?
 
pecosthecat,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
exmilker said:
so back to the t1 i know some of you guys are probably going to say mix the bowl which i do with my glass pokey that i got from my extreme q yet im still not able to achieve the same "browness" as my stationary toy, plus im not looking to bust out my glass stick in public just to mix up the bowl, so do any of you guys have suggestions on how you mix the bowl without being too obvious about it. i have thought about unscrewing the top a little bit and than giving it a shake but i dont want any herb to fall through the holes as im thinking that might cause some damage... so any tips would be greatly appreciated
I mix up my herbs with an upside down rap against my hand or table or whatever. Then I usually unscrew the lid to quickly check the status of the herb, then just screw it in again (all while holding the unit upside down). I really don't need to unscrew it off, it is just more of a habit now. You definitelly do not need a poker to mix the bowl. It is a very similar process to MFLB vaping in that you just shake your load up between hits. I would at least unscrew the cap a little bit to give more room for the herb to dance around and giver her a few light taps. This will sufficiently "stir" your bowl between hits IME.

:2c:
 
Stu,
I have the T-1 for about a week. I'd like to love it but, at the risk of sounding like a nerd I wouls apperciate staep by step instruction. I just don't feel like I'm using it to it's full potential.
 
Mongoose,

fieldred

Member
Well any input would be apprec....Still not seeing clouds of Vap. Using dry leaf that had trics on it. Is it because ther leaf dosnt have oils in it that theres no clouds, or when you vape with the TV1 is there no noticeable cloud. It feels like Im getting something but on the exhale no sign no smell. I hear that some people get these great milky white clouds?? No I know the unit is heating up because I unscrew it and see the orange glow and it is very hot.. I boiled the ceramic/ bowl..

Me to Mong..
 
fieldred,

Bluntcrush

Director of Vapor Research Labs™
Flowers:
Preheat a little with previously used batts
Replace with fresh batts
Pack it 3/4 with md ground herb
Hold switch 5-8 seconds to heat up, then begin inhaling
release switch a few seconds before your hit ends.

Probably best to hold it like a bottle with a straw to hit it. (keeps flowers on heat source)

With other attachments it is easier still!

Enjoy!!
 
Bluntcrush,

OF

Well-Known Member
First off, it's not magic. A small load of low grade herb just doesn't have much to offer. Load top shelf bud at five or six times the concentration in and you'll get five or six times more out under the same conditions.

Secondly, the unit does work once guys figure it out, but it does take figuring it out and not expecting it to work the way you want it to. Start with very dry herb, you don't have a lot of excess heat to waste drying stuff off. Grind it fine, you need lots of surface area. Go 'too fine' at first, you can cut back later as you gain skills. Don't sweat battery life until you sort out, change them often until then and keep them charged so that's easy to do.

Think a bit about what you need to do. This is NOT like MFLB, so if you know that one, forget it for now. It's something like VGs, if you know them you're ahead.....maybe. Anyway, think about the heat. You need to let the heat build in the core until it's hotter than it needs to be for the job without pulling any air. This might take 8 or 10 seconds, don't rush it until you understand it. Let it cook some. Once it's hot, start a 'medium speed' draw. You need to move a lot of hot air from the heat core through the bowl to heat the herb. Cool air will enter the side and into the core for heating. You will taste and feel warming air, after several seconds (less when warm) the taste will shift as the good stuff starts, slow down but don't stop the draw looking to keep that level. If it drops off, pull harder (not slack off like MFLB). If it starts to get away, stop the draw (or slow it way down) keeping more heat in the core. Cutting power does no good, the heat is already stored in the core, stopping the air flow is the only handle you have.

As a starting point, I suggest ten seconds of preheat, 15 or 20 seconds of hitting, say 30 seconds of 'key down time' per toke. Expect say 10 or 12 such cycles per charge.

After each hit, mix things up. Otherwise the hot air 'tracks' up through the load every pull overcooking the walls of the track at the expense of the rest of the load. I like to start up by dumping the load in my left palm and crushing/mixing before returning it like I do with the LB. After it's very dry and no longer sticks together, if the bowl's not too full shaking it is enough. Some guys loosen the cap to provide more space, but be careful it can come off.

Remember to put fresh batteries in when you recharge the load.

Hang in there, guys with a lot less going for them than you are using these guys well right now.

OF
 
OF,
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Peloton

Vapes Hard
Great explanation. I was going to try my hand at an answer, but looks like OF has explained it well.

I have been pulling awesome, consistent hits out of my TV since I started adjusting my heat up times to match the amount of retained heat in the core. I absolutely love what this device gives back when you treat it right.
 
Peloton,

Gonzo

Slightly Stoopid
OF said:
First off, it's not magic. A small load of low grade herb just doesn't have much to offer. Load top shelf bud at five or six times the concentration in and you'll get five or six times more out under the same conditions.

Secondly, the unit does work once guys figure it out, but it does take figuring it out and not expecting it to work the way you want it to. Start with very dry herb, you don't have a lot of excess heat to waste drying stuff off. Grind it fine, you need lots of surface area. Go 'too fine' at first, you can cut back later as you gain skills. Don't sweat battery life until you sort out, change them often until then and keep them charged so that's easy to do.

Think a bit about what you need to do. This is NOT like MFLB, so if you know that one, forget it for now. It's something like VGs, if you know them you're ahead.....maybe. Anyway, think about the heat. You need to let the heat build in the core until it's hotter than it needs to be for the job without pulling any air. This might take 8 or 10 seconds, don't rush it until you understand it. Let it cook some. Once it's hot, start a 'medium speed' draw. You need to move a lot of hot air from the heat core through the bowl to heat the herb. Cool air will enter the side and into the core for heating. You will taste and feel warming air, after several seconds (less when warm) the taste will shift as the good stuff starts, slow down but don't stop the draw looking to keep that level. If it drops off, pull harder (not slack off like MFLB). If it starts to get away, stop the draw (or slow it way down) keeping more heat in the core. Cutting power does no good, the heat is already stored in the core, stopping the air flow is the only handle you have.

As a starting point, I suggest ten seconds of preheat, 15 or 20 seconds of hitting, say 30 seconds of 'key down time' per toke. Expect say 10 or 12 such cycles per charge.

After each hit, mix things up. Otherwise the hot air 'tracks' up through the load every pull overcooking the walls of the track at the expense of the rest of the load. I like to start up by dumping the load in my left palm and crushing/mixing before returning it like I do with the LB. After it's very dry and no longer sticks together, if the bowl's not too full shaking it is enough. Some guys loosen the cap to provide more space, but be careful it can come off.

Remember to put fresh batteries in when you recharge the load.

Hang in there, guys with a lot less going for them than you are using these guys well right now.

OF


This is probably the best explanation about how to master the use of this device that I have ever seen. This post should be highlighted on the first page of this thread (IMO) to serve as a aid for people wanting to learn how to properly use the TV T1. Great post OF!
 
Gonzo,

Dopevape

Well-Known Member
Ditto lol i had something going earlier but i Discarded it :p and now OF beat me to it :).

10 second heat up time is correct and as u get further in your load you use less heat up time so lets say u go down 2 secs every time after first or second hit. matter of preference.
-So lets say u heat up 10 sec (first draw) u start drawing slow giving time to heat the herb then as u feel heating up draw faster giving u a "little" bit of control over your heat but eventually it wont be enough to cool the heat source so let switch go when u feel that. ;).
-Next hit 9 seconds heat up and yadda yadda same thing as before. in beginning i felt it got too hot and i even got to herb to burn in my thermovape so.. it can happen uhu. Think it was cause i was using long heating up periods like 15 secs hmm won't happen again.
i can go down to 5 secs heat up time even lower after that its matter of taste and experimenting a bit. This way the Thermovape doesnt get quite as hot to hold on too as before which is a pain when u wanna chill with this device a little bit.
It does take a little getting used to but once you do that this device is killer in what it does. I am non medicinal user btw sort of it gets me high enough so. Used to use MFLB but this one packs a way bigger punch. downside are the battery life i guess but i said before i dont care about it this thing will make me stop smoking completely. At least i can do 2 x 0.10 bowls with a pair of batteries so im good.
 
Dopevape,

OF

Well-Known Member
Peloton said:
Great explanation. I was going to try my hand at an answer, but looks like OF has explained it well.

I have been pulling awesome, consistent hits out of my TV since I started adjusting my heat up times to match the amount of retained heat in the core. I absolutely love what this device gives back when you treat it right.

Thank you very much for the kind words. I hope it helps the new guys.

I fully agree with you, when 'in it's element' it's a great tool indeed. Someone said "The TV wants to teach you how to use it", I agree with that too.

Gonzo said:
This is probably the best explanation about how to master the use of this device that I have ever seen. This post should be highlighted on the first page of this thread (IMO) to serve as a aid for people wanting to learn how to properly use the TV T1. Great post OF!

Thank you as well, let's hope it helps it's intended audience. I wonder if it wouldn't be a good thing on the Wiki page as a starting place? Be cool if someone who knows more about that stuff than me could make that happen.....

OF
 
OF,

PB88123

Vaporist
I just boiled the thermocore and used batteries that were halfway or more dead (wasn't keeping track but used them a lot) to warm it up and make sure it was dry. It was 100% orange when I turned it off and then when I turned it right back on it took 11 seconds to get back to that 100% orange glow. When I put in fresh batteries after a warm up I could turn it off and wait 8 seconds then turn it on and it took 5 seconds to get a 100% glow.

Batteries play a part in getting vapor too. If you don't wait long enough to let it warm up you will be inhaling for 10 seconds and get nothing. I would play with it when empty just to see how long it takes for it to warm up. Practice drawing when empty and the unit is on. Inhale slow and strong and see how it feels and then speed up. Then pack the bowl and do the same thing. If you exhale and don't see anything that doesn't mean it didn't work. I base it more on how I feel then what I see. If I really want to see it I will grab my flashlight and exhale into that.

You can boil the thermocore (just grab the bowl when it is cool and unscrew it) as much as you like. I went 12 days without cleaning it and it worked all 12 days. Frequent cleaning will not reduce the life of the bowl. Plus it dries itself out when you turn it on.
 
PB88123,

weedemon

enthusiast
agreed OF is "the man" here! and that explanation is the best thing I head also read about explaining how it works!

one thing I want to add.

5 sec heatup time = a more tasty hit

10 sec heatup time = a bigger hit that might make me cough
 
weedemon,

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
Great thoughts here by all. I would just like to reiterate the importance of starting material. For taste, effect, and visible exhale, the starting material is critical. Also, the environment is as well. I find humidity is the one thing that really slows the T1 down, even more than cold, which makes sense. Using the preheat method and almost full bowls of fresh, coarsely ground, medicine right out of the fridge, is now producing hits that almost make me have to sit down.
 
t-dub,

mephisto

Well-Known Member
I still have not boiled my core. The holes in the lid were becoming clogged w/debris
so I reamed them clean w/ a pin. Then I took a titanium screen I had and placed it
in the lid. The screen creates a little headroom by keeping the lid from getting as tight.
Plus, the screen has eliminated the need to keep reaming the lid. Just a blow thru the
mouthpiece before installing keeps the airway clear. Draw strength is a little easier as well.
Keeping the TV in my pocket keeps it warmed up for travel use.
 
mephisto,

fieldred

Member
OK so after readling this forum inorder to get a visable vape the material has to be a quality bud not stalks and fan leaf correct...anyone?:peace:
 
fieldred,

J.R.R.Tokin'

Wych Doctor
Manufacturer
^^For sure, you need the trichomes (crystals) there to 'melt' down and create the vapor. Stems and stalks have virtually no crystals on them in general.
 
J.R.R.Tokin',
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