Discontinued ThermoVape Revolution for concentrates

[OF]

Gentle Friends,

In a bit I'm off to TV to get my prototype DART rebuilt with the final version of the top and plating. This calls for boiling it out after some considerable wax has been though it (perhaps two grams?). It's still very clean inside but coated with concentrate top to bottom. It's seemed stable to me for some time, the coating is the same but of course ever changing. So I vaped it down to the dregs, weighted it and boilded it up. After drying it had lost .147 grams. Well over an eighth of a gram of oil 'trapped' inside. No problem if it's ongoing but that's all lost with cleanings, of course, and has to build back up over time.

OF

 

[Friar]

Just got my TV REV DART LV, (that's a mouthful) and I am already very impressed! Shipped monday, and I got it an hour ago and I'm in Ontario Canada. I for one have had a VERY GOOD experience with ThermoVape so far. Aside from online store bugs, their customer service has been pretty spot on. They even gave me a free glass adapter to make up for having to send them a money order.

I'm breaking in the REV DART LV on a ego-t batt now and WOW, pretty much instant clouds with the wax and amber glass that I'm dropping in when primed for 20 seconds. Gets hot but nowhere near unbearable, this device is the FUTURE, period. So medicated right now, and all I want to do is play some more. Btw OF, my cone on my ego-t batt fits nicely and rips just fine but the 20 second time out does become a bit annoying. I'll probably get an Alpha lite in the near future.

I work at the LHS and I can't wait to spread the news about the Revolution. My hats off to the TV crew for supplying an outstanding product for the commuinity to enjoy. Milk vid coming soon.

 

[Pipes]

ordering now. thanks again.

Just a little information for any ecig users. There is an alternative from the adapter kit piece. Which I wish I knew about before my initial purchase as now I have the adapter which I don't use. Nice for my arsenale though.
Any interest, let me know and will post links to the UltraMax RES plus an extender which will expose 510 threads. Only problem is different retailers for each product.

 

[2clicker]

Well over an eighth of a gram of oil 'trapped' inside. No problem if it's ongoing but that's all lost with cleanings

cant the Revs be soaked in ISO...? you could reclaim it that way.

 

[kertong]

just curious, has anyone tried their rev dart lv on their omicron v1, and v2? it works in both but i swear, the clouds on the v1 are noticeably thicker. two of my 215 patient friends who I was showing this off to, noticed as well. On the omicron v2, we'd heat and heat and only get wispy clouds. As soon as we put it on the omicron v1 or the atmosRAW battery, instant thick vapor clouds. Am i the only one?

 

[OF]

Thanks OF and Bob!

I do have the Revolution, and the interface...so I guess I just need the non-LV version? $55 and I'll be in business?

$55 seems steep... but I guess that beats a 5 pack of omicron carts

Yes, I think that's right. You already have a standard (window) Revolution set up? Then a DART cart is all you need. I understand what you say about 5 for the same price, and I have lots of Omicron carts and all, but the DART doesn't seem to die and hits harder than I'm brave if I get the urge. And when it fouls you can easily boil it squeaky clean, something Omicron can't offer. Both have their place, IMO, but they're not in the same class. If you like the window version and don't run bubble or kief, I'm sure you'll love the DART.

OF

 

[zmurder]

Sinclue I'm in the same boat -- ordered the Alpha Ultra and DART LV as soon as they announced it on here last week....but my tracking hasn't budged from "Electronic Shipping Info Received". My previous 3 orders from them got moving a bit more quickly.

Thought I should update and say that my Alpha Ultra and LV DART showed up today. Ordered Saturday, received Thursday -- nothing to really complain about there. The tracking info still hasn't updated, but that's USPS' fault I'm thinking, not TV's. Thanks to TV and crew! About to put a nice dab in this thing...

 

[havealight101]

So the dart doesn't handle bub and keif at all, or as well?

KT, I think this was brought up elsewhere, but the "beefier" switch on v2 May take away a little power that gets to the cart. I dunno tho.

 

[sessnet]

Gentle Friends,

In a bit I'm off to TV to get my prototype DART rebuilt with the final version of the top and plating. This calls for boiling it out after some considerable wax has been though it (perhaps two grams?). It's still very clean inside but coated with concentrate top to bottom. It's seemed stable to me for some time, the coating is the same but of course ever changing. So I vaped it down to the dregs, weighted it and boilded it up. After drying it had lost .147 grams. Well over an eighth of a gram of oil 'trapped' inside. No problem if it's ongoing but that's all lost with cleanings, of course, and has to build back up over time.

OF

So, according to your numbers - about 5-8% gets lost/trapped in the DART? Or just yours because you had a differently built prototype?

 

[QuantumTimeSpace]

cant the Revs be soaked in ISO...? you could reclaim it that way.

I've been cleaning my Rev parts with ISO before the boil and saving it to make food-grade oil, same as I do with all my vapes/oil pieces.

 

[kertong]

KT, I think this was brought up elsewhere, but the "beefier" switch on v2 May take away a little power that gets to the cart. I dunno tho.

Ahh, interesting. I don't seem to notice a difference when I put the 1.5ohm carts on the v1 or v2, but maybe that's different. Weird to think a power switch can put up enough resistance to noticeably drop current and heat like that? Hmmm.. guess the atmosRAW will be a dedicated revolution dart battery... or now i have another reason to get an ultralite though. But after $400 spent in vapes this week or two, might wait until my next paycheck or two...

 

[zmurder]

Thought I should update and say that my Alpha Ultra and LV DART showed up today. Ordered Saturday, received Thursday -- nothing to really complain about there. The tracking info still hasn't updated, but that's USPS' fault I'm thinking, not TV's. Thanks to TV and crew! About to put a nice dab in this thing...

Another update -- my DART LV (or perhaps the Alpha Ultra switch, or both my batteries) doesn't work. As in won't heat up at all. No glowing ceramic and no heat being produced at all. Batteries are charged (according to the charger) and everything's connected but no heat.

I'll contact TV shortly....but any ideas? I have the 6V Rev and haven't had any problems with it.

 

[havealight101]

I wouldn't think a switch would make much difference. I do know the Persei switch is only rated to 5 amps, maybe v2 is the same... Possibly the dart runs higher than 5...but wouldn't that not work at all then? Sorry, just trying to think through this fog(like most my posts/thoughts).
Still don't know if I should order 1 or wait for nail, or both. Life is full of "Important" decisions.

 

[zmurder]

Has anybody had luck with this included UltraFire Rapid Charger for the 14500 batts??? I'm thinking that may be my problem here. The charger will show that my batts are charged, but then if I nudge the charger or spin one of the batteries, they go back to charging... I seem to be having trouble getting good connections to the batteries with this crappy charger. They are currently both blinking red so I'll wait a while and test again.

Edit: OK, one batt turned green in the charger and stayed that way even if I turned or nudged it....so I tried that one....still no dice. No heat at all...

Edit: Yeah neither battery makes this puppy fire up. Bummer.

 

[JoeKickass]

Ahh, interesting. I don't seem to notice a difference when I put the 1.5ohm carts on the v1 or v2, but maybe that's different. Weird to think a power switch can put up enough resistance to noticeably drop current and heat like that? Hmmm.. guess the atmosRAW will be a dedicated revolution dart battery... or now i have another reason to get an ultralite though. But after $400 spent in vapes this week or two, might wait until my next paycheck or two...

My v2 is coming today, I'll be sure to take current measurements! When I get my Rev I'll test that too.

Also, was the v1 charged more than the v2? That would do it

 

[SameOldTim]

Got an email response that my package was still sitting around the warehouse and now that I'd inquired they'd get around to shipping it today.. Some mumbling about parts not being in stock perhaps (products announced less than 24 hours earlier). Wonder how long it would have sat around if I hadn't asked?

They "assured" me that they'd send it out tonight. Much like they "assured" me last Saturday that "All of the items from order #**** have now been shipped"

Guess they're too busy helping people try to use their products with other manufacturers' equipment to properly take care of repeat customers.

I assure you that once an order is filled that the package is picked up or send to the post office as soon as we can. We never leaved a fulfilled order on our bench unless were still trying to build parts for it.

Im going to talk to the office to see what the hold up was for your order.

Cool Idea, I wish the bottom of the dart could have been slight funnel like to get oil to drip down to the center directly above the heating element. These ideas could all be combined into the ultimate DART. Also your idea can be easily produced by just replacing the top dabber portion.

@TV: Any news on the drop in DART for us early adopters of the side load Rev? Also I was thinking about your design for the battery housing and your modular design model and was wonder what you guys think of having a battery housing with multiple threads so you can extend or shorten the housing and thus insert numerous battery configurations for variable voltages?

We are working on it still, there are a few things we have to sort out before we can even get the prototypes made. just stay tuned

Similar but what I am saying is the entire battery housing is modular in that it can be removed to shorten the physical length (for concealability or stacked more so to have a big bat for serious session). If someone is running one RCR 3 or 3.7 volt it will have half the size of a double stacked 6v currently available.

Like a screw in piece

We have been looking into different battery options, so far theres not much we can improve without completely redesigning the device.

Mmm, I have an issue.

I was steaming along happily with my Omicron+LV Rev when suddenly the omicron started giving me a solid blue light for roughly 7 seconds. No more heat is being produced at all. The Omicron carts work fine, but I can't get the Rev and its adapter to work anymore. The omicron gives solid blue lighting when the adapter is on without the Rev and also gives the solid, non-operating blue when the Rev is added to the adapter. I noticed the threads on my Revolution are just a bit rough in one place but I don't think that'd do it. Any ideas? I know some people have talked about moving pins and issues along those lines but I have little e-cigarette experience.

So my Omicron + Adapter + LV Rev works as long as it's screwed in 95% of the way: once I screw it tight it gives me a solid light and refuses to heat.

Ideas?

Another FC member had this issue, it turned out to be the pin shorting (or open circut) when pressue was applied to the post in the power supply. I believe its 2 or 3 pages ago.

to hell with adapters. 510 thread FTW!

so in an effort to make sure my new Rev will work on my Detonator i have purchased these cells.

http://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-RCR123A-900mAh-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B001BLQQ7S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333642159&sr=8-1

they appear to be the exact same as the cells that come with the TV kits, but in a 900mah instead of 750mah... this should give me longer cell life no...?

The 900mah batteries will not work with the ThermoVape T1 due to the high draw required by the 30 watt core. The AVA's and Rev's require less out of the battery being only ~10 watts and may work, but we suggest the 750mah to have the ability to run many different power level cores.

Gentle Friends,

In a bit I'm off to TV to get my prototype DART rebuilt with the final version of the top and plating. This calls for boiling it out after some considerable wax has been though it (perhaps two grams?). It's still very clean inside but coated with concentrate top to bottom. It's seemed stable to me for some time, the coating is the same but of course ever changing. So I vaped it down to the dregs, weighted it and boilded it up. After drying it had lost .147 grams. Well over an eighth of a gram of oil 'trapped' inside. No problem if it's ongoing but that's all lost with cleanings, of course, and has to build back up over time.

OF

Look who just arrived!

Ahh, interesting. I don't seem to notice a difference when I put the 1.5ohm carts on the v1 or v2, but maybe that's different. Weird to think a power switch can put up enough resistance to noticeably drop current and heat like that? Hmmm.. guess the atmosRAW will be a dedicated revolution dart battery... or now i have another reason to get an ultralite though. But after $400 spent in vapes this week or two, might wait until my next paycheck or two...

Im suspecting the switch circuitry is drawing more from the batteries, should still work just slightly less vapor.

Has anybody had luck with this included UltraFire Rapid Charger for the 14500 batts??? I'm thinking that may be my problem here. The charger will show that my batts are charged, but then if I nudge the charger or spin one of the batteries, they go back to charging... I seem to be having trouble getting good connections to the batteries with this crappy charger. They are currently both blinking red so I'll wait a while and test again.

The chargers tend to loosen up after some use, if it keeps giving you trouble contact us at sales@thermovape.com.


Tim

 

[OF]

Another update -- my DART LV (or perhaps the Alpha Ultra switch, or both my batteries) doesn't work. As in won't heat up at all. No glowing ceramic and no heat being produced at all. Batteries are charged (according to the charger) and everything's connected but no heat.

I'll contact TV shortly....but any ideas? I have the 6V Rev and haven't had any problems with it.

Sure, try the 6V Revolution cart on the Ultra. You can also swap switches. I wouldn't try the LV on 6 Volts, but I bet it gets warm on 3 with some foil stuffed in under one of the normal RCR123A cells.

One thing I'm told that often hangs up brand new units (and ones just messed with) is the floating switch. To be absolutely sure it's working right take the cart off and the adapter off the lower tube. Take the switch out (it pulls down) then push the o-ring that holds it all the way to the bottom of the hole. Then slide the switch in as far as you can. Screw the cart it, it should back the switch out as it comes down tight. You can feel the edge of the black plastic shirt with your fingernail for the last turn or two. Then put it back on the battery tube.

Anyway, that should get you started?

OF

 

[SF Giant]

Man I really want a Dart just so I dont have to hold my finger over the window on my rev to get proper vapor anymore, unless mine is REALLY gunked up it gives some pretty wispy ass hits without plugging the window. If there is a drop in Dart in development I really hope that the new window piece that will inevitably come with it fits much tighter. I know it's a minor gripe but having to always "plug the carb" so to speak with my off hand is really getting to be a pain in the ass

 

[mephisto]

I have found that adding a cone over my ego-style battery effectively covers
any air leakage thru the window. Obviously, this is not possible w/ the Rev
in its factory state. I have had good results taking a small ring of silicon
and rolling it down the rev. til it covers the window. Mine gets too hot for
a mere finger to cover the window... Just got the dart, good bye window!!!!

 

[SF Giant]

I have found that adding a cone over my ego-style battery effectively covers
any air leakage thru the window. Obviously, this is not possible w/ the Rev
in its factory state. I have had good results taking a small ring of silicon
and rolling it down the rev. til it covers the window. Mine gets too hot for
a mere finger to cover the window... Just got the dart, good bye window!!!!

Yeah, it just seems lame to have to jerry rig something that I have ~$400 invested in at this point. I would just buy a dart if I had money, but I dont. I really hope there is a dart piece in the works that will remedy this as I feel that this is a serious defect in the original design. The hits are both not satisfying and taste shitty with this much air mixed in.

 

[QuantumTimeSpace]

ThermoVape Rev+ DART+ Pure-Flow= What I've always wanted in a portable vape.

I don't know if possibly my original windowed Rev didn't perform up to standards and I just wasn't aware, or this new design with the added restriction and lack of window to leak air really makes such a significant difference in performance, but this thing is hitting damn near if not the same as what I'd expect from dabbing on my Ti nail. HUUUUUUUGE thick vapor clouds of splendid flavor, easily 2x what the original model produced. I bow down to you, ThermoVape engineers!


I really liked it before. Now it may never leave my side. Time to find a whoooole lotta more batteries for this thing.

 

[Darb]

ThermoVape Rev+ DART+ Pure-Flow= What I've always wanted in a portable vape.

I don't know if possibly my original windowed Rev didn't perform up to standards and I just wasn't aware, or this new design with the added restriction and lack of window to leak air really makes such a significant difference in performance, but this thing is hitting damn near if not the same as what I'd expect from dabbing on my Ti nail. HUUUUUUUGE thick vapor clouds of splendid flavor, easily 2x what the original model produced. I bow down to you, ThermoVape engineers!


I really liked it before. Now it may never leave my side. Time to find a whoooole lotta more batteries for this thing.

It seems like no matter how many times I try mine I can only get wispy small clouds. I've cleaned it and tried numerous types of oil and still no change. I just gave up and put it in my closet today. After watching those clouds kertong was producing I think mine must be defective??

 

[OF]

It seems like no matter how many times I try mine I can only get wispy small clouds. I've cleaned it and tried numerous types of oil and still no change. I just gave up and put it in my closet today. After watching those clouds kertong was producing I think mine must be defective??

I seriously doubt that. If it is defective, let's find that out and get it going? I'm guessing one of two things is happening, either good enough concentrate isn't being correctly loaded or your technique isn't letting it get hot enough. Cuz if it's got the concentrate and the heat it basically has to work.

What happens if you hold it on for 15 seconds with no pull at all, then take a test puff? At the same time feel the wall of the cart just above the threaded end, you should feel the wall get warm by the 10 or 15 second mark.

OF

 

[t-dub]

Did I read somewhere back that the DART also had a redesign on the ceramic? I believe it has an extra gap now?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

so my dart is in the mail and expected to be here by tomorrow.
as an omi/persei user, is there a vaporpedia page for the rev. any tips, tricks, suggestions b4 i try this new tech?