Discontinued ThermoVape Revolution for concentrates

[aj0125]

Just dropped in to say what everyone already knows: Thermovape customer service is great! I had problems with my Rev core so I sent it back to them, called this week and they still hadn't got it yet but they could sense my anticipation and sent out my brand new core today anyway! Thanks to Jennifer and the rest of Thermovape for being so good to their customers. Counting down the days till The Rev, The Sour D wax, and I are all happily reunited.

 

[2clicker]

has anyone had a Rev/Dart core re-built?

ive got a SV Dart core that just wont fire. i use my LV Dart usually so im not really sure what happened to it.

 

[OF]

has anyone had a Rev/Dart core re-built?

ive got a SV Dart core that just wont fire. i use my LV Dart usually so im not really sure what happened to it.

Yes, I had one of the prototypes I was given to test rebuilt a few times (with different heaters). It's pretty straightforward. Didn't take Tim long to do, even entertaining me at the same time. He 'splains stuff good.

I'm thinking that wasn't really the only question you had in mind?

OF

 

[jog123]

My Thermovape is in Canada and has cleared customs!!!!!! Hopefully it will be at my doorstep in the next day or 2!!!!!!!!!Can't wait!!!! So tired of using my solo for oil and knowing im not gettin the most out of my medication!

Just wondering how much it cost you to ship it to Canada? Was going to order and saw the cheapest option was $40 to ship to Toronto, is this normal? Thanks

 

[ugobo]

Just wondering how much it cost you to ship it to Canada? Was going to order and saw the cheapest option was $40 to ship to Toronto, is this normal? Thanks

I ordered a Revolution Conversion Kit three weeks ago and it was $32 through USPS i believe. Don't forget to request special attention to the declared value if you want to avoid custom fees...

 

[2clicker]

Yes, I had one of the prototypes I was given to test rebuilt a few times (with different heaters). It's pretty straightforward. Didn't take Tim long to do, even entertaining me at the same time. He 'splains stuff good.

I'm thinking that wasn't really the only question you had in mind?

OF

well i suppose i was looking for what it cost you and how long it took. i remember TV saying that they would have a "rebuild" option available on their site, but ive never seen it on there.

ill just email them and ask.

 

[UpUpandAway]

I had an epiphany last night.

While I was prepping for lift-off with my Dart, I realized that I could put hash/wax directly on the heating core AND oil on the Dart tip (seems kinda obvious, right?).

So I went ahead and did just that- dropped a bb sized pellet of OG Kush into the chamber, sprinkled some Skywalker budder on top, and then loaded the Dart tip with a dab of Bubba Kush oil. I attached it to my bub and took a nice, long, slow draw. After the chamber was filled with thick milky goodness, I took a big ass rip; woooooo! Humongous cloud.

After like 3 hits, I was so medicated I had to put it down. When I checked the Dart, there was a nice ball of hash/budder/oil on the tip, which had pierced right through the center of the hash bb. After 15 minutes passed, I was functional enough to take 3 more hits. When I check the Dart again, there was still a shitload of stuff left! I was dunzo. Bliss!! I didn't think it was possible, but I now love my Dart even more than I already did.

Henceforth, I shall refer to this mighty mix as the Triple Crown. If you haven't tried this combo and have access to some good concentrates, I highly recommend it. And get a Dart!

I was actually considering adding some Pure Gold, too, but that's just crossing the line...

 

[SameOldTim]

Yes, I had one of the prototypes I was given to test rebuilt a few times (with different heaters). It's pretty straightforward. Didn't take Tim long to do, even entertaining me at the same time. He 'splains stuff good.

I'm thinking that wasn't really the only question you had in mind?

OF

They are pretty strait forward to rebuild, just need the special wire and a press.

We will rebuild any of our cores, the AVA's and Rev's are $10 and the T1's and Evo's are $15. (You have to pay shipping both ways)

On a side note, our All Glass mouthpieces and 14G adapters just came in! WOOT!

 

[UpUpandAway]

When I first got a Twist, just to play with, I used with an adapter for Omi carts. It worked very well, but the dial would sometime turn in my pants pocket, which seemed "dangerous" to me (it can drive a 2.4 Omi to a far too hot temp).
I put it on the shelf and ignored it for a while, until:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/25-ego-c-twist-variable-voltage-battery-and-omicron-carts.6359/
Also in the meanwhile I had gotten an ecig threaded voltage meter to measure voltage under load . I discovered that the Twist I had delivered nearly exactly whatever it was set to for a 2.4 Ohm cart, but EVEN BETTER, with a DART, it delivered 3.98 volts for any setting of 4 volts or higher - i.e. I didn't need to worry about burning it out Since I have 2 LV DARTs, I ordered a second 1000mAh Twist - It reads a consistent 4.01 volts under load at any setting of 4 or above. Anything above 3.6 works well, but the heat up time at 4 volts is usually under 8 seconds for me, with lots of thick tasty vapor before 12 seconds - very nice. It also seems I have to clean them less frequently now I'm running them hotter.

Before this recent switch, my LVs (yea I have a SV too) had been in V2 eGo-T 18650 mods - With IMRs they come off the charger delivering about the same as the Twist, but drop down quickly. Protected cells are "worse" (i.e. much less than IMR). Also, The eGo-T tube modes performed almost exactly the same as a Persei, which is better used with a pair of Omi carts (no comparison on the quality though - the $20 mods have coarse threads which are easy to strip and the parts seem cast and polished, not machined),

-NDA

So I can get away with cranking my Twist to 4.8 and not have to worry about burning out my Dart? Does increasing the voltage to anything above 4 have any benefits?

 

[Nick Again]

So I can get away with cranking my Twist to 4.8 and not have to worry about burning out my Dart? Does increasing the voltage to anything above 4 have any benefits?

For my DARTs, with the two Twists I have, anything from 4v to 4.8v delivers the same 4 volts to the DART. Do not try the same with a 2.4 Ohm Omicron cart - I've seen the "smoke puff of death" from the bottom of the cart when trying 4.8v for too long (maybe 10 seconds? don't really know) - Now 4.6v did make some big Omi clouds, but I don't know how long that would last (the heater or the wick).

To be clear - no benefit or even any changes I see when running a LV DART at settings above 4 volts on the Twist.

-NDA

 

[shredhead]

Tomorrow is the day!!!!!! The package actually showed up today but my girlfriend didn't have cash for the customs fee so now she has to pick it up tomorrow while I'm at work. I wish i was using my thermovape right now but i guesss i must be tortured!!!!!! Feeling better now after taking a few dabs, but still very very anxious. Can't wait to give you guys my opinions on this little guy!!

 

[UpUpandAway]

Cool, thanks for the info.

By any chance, do you know of a way to disable the auto-shutoff on the twist? When I was trying it with my LV Dart, the button started flashing after about 5 minutes and then the unit turned off. When it turned off I immediately hit the button again and the twist fired up again, so there wasn't much down time in between it shutting off/me turning it back on.

However, constantly doing this while slowly drawing from the Dart is a PITA.

 

[Nick Again]

Cool, thanks for the info.

By any chance, do you know of a way to disable the auto-shutoff on the twist? When I was trying it with my LV Dart, the button started flashing after about 5 minutes and then the unit turned off. When it turned off I immediately hit the button again and the twist fired up again, so there wasn't much down time in between it shutting off/me turning it back on.

However, constantly doing this while slowly drawing from the Dart is a PITA.

Yea, the ecig auto-off. Definitely a PITA until you get used to it. The Twist's timeout is about 10 seconds (supposed to be 10, but I just measured 10.7). I guess it just has to become second nature - I click the button about every 6 or 7 seconds without thinking (anymore) - for me that's about two slow draws per click (and about 4 or 5 clicks to fill my lungs). When it flashes 5 times quickly, the battery is about to go dead and you need to charge it (or reach for your spare ).

-NDA

 

[Slinkytreekreeper]

I just got my revolution and other goodies and have a quick question if anyone can help.

I have removed the mouth piece to my revolution dart and there is a small portion that has not been plated, like a drop of dirt or grease has been sitting there during the coating process or something.

The other revolution is perfect in every way along with all the mouth pieces and the evolution so this must be a manufacturing error.

I can add a pic when I get home in a couple hours but what is the metal these are machined out of as it would be in my vapor path now. Will it 'creep' and flake off with repeated heating and cooling?

Lastly, the ceramic in the revolution is centered perfectly, no gaps round the edges but the rev dart with the issue mentioned above has a gap at either side and is not central. Not too impressed with the consistency but should I be concerned or can I actually use them?

Thanks for any help

 

[Slinkytreekreeper]

duplicate post

 

[OF]

I have removed the mouth piece to my revolution dart and there is a small portion that has not been plated, like a drop of dirt or grease has been sitting there during the coating process or something.


Lastly, the ceramic in the revolution is centered perfectly, no gaps round the edges but the rev dart with the issue mentioned above has a gap at either side and is not central. Not too impressed with the consistency but should I be concerned or can I actually use them?

Thanks for any help

That's a brass part, with Nickle plating. It could be contamination, or an impact. If it were mine I wouldn't worry but I'm sure an email to TV will get a replacement mailed to you in short order.

The gaps are normal for DART. It's to provide bypass air flow to sweep the vapors up to the anxiously waiting owner (that's you....). You want them. Don't worry about it being centered, in fact it's a bit loose so it can shift as things change shape with temperature. It turns out Revolution usually leaked enough air around the window area to not need intentional vents below, usually. I believe this change is being made there as well?

IMO you can go back to being impressed......

You're welcome, I hope it helps.

OF

 

[hanfhead]

A couple quick questions. I have the evolution. Do I just need the revolution cartridge? What is the difference in the two bases, one has delrin one doesn't? Also, for those that have both; what is the actual warmup time between the LV and SV models? I have a t1 and lv evo so I have several of both batteries. I am leaning toward LV but if the warmup time is as long as the evo I might just get the SV.

 

[OF]

A couple quick questions. I have the evolution. Do I just need the revolution cartridge? What is the difference in the two bases, one has delrin one doesn't? Also, for those that have both; what is the actual warmup time between the LV and SV models? I have a t1 and lv evo so I have several of both batteries. I am leaning toward LV but if the warmup time is as long as the evo I might just get the SV.

Aside from the insulation, the new version does away with the liquid trap. Useful if you flood out (keeps it out of the switch). Since Revolution/DART runs at less power if you're not having heat problems with Evolution, I'd stick with the uninsulated version.

In Evolution there's a modest (but potentially annoying) longer warm up with LV. However at the Revolution/DART level it's basically gone. In A/B testing (one in each hand) I decided it was a push. LV will give you about 10% (maybe a little more) hits. I think your instinct for LV is serving you well.

One last thought, if you're not planning on lots of bubble or solid hash I'd suggest DART rather than the window version. It's a little cleaner to use and a lot easier to load.

Best wishes.

OF

 

[shredhead]

THE BEST VAPORIZER I OWN HANDS DOWN. First day with this thing and i am in love. Scratch that, First minute! Great taste, So easy to use and the battery life. Holy fuck the battery life. I am in a whole new world of vaporizing and i love it. Whats the max amount of oil one should put in the DART? Im puttin just a litte ball like not even enough to register as .01 on my scale. Should i be puttin a nice big glob in?

Edit: Also one of the 17670 batteries i got must be a dud or soimething. it wont charge and gives off no heat and it has no label and theres a little chunk of the protecive cover thats missing. kinda scared to use it.

 

[OF]

Whats the max amount of oil one should put in the DART? Im puttin just a litte ball like not even enough to register as .01 on my scale. Should i be puttin a nice big glob in?

Edit: Also one of the 17670 batteries i got must be a dud or soimething. it wont charge and gives off no heat and it has no label and theres a little chunk of the protecive cover thats missing. kinda scared to use it.

Hey, glad you love it, for sure you're not alone with that.

When I was given one of the prototypes to test I was advised 'no more than four drops from clean'. I think that's a good rule. Say .2 grams at most. I find it best to add about .050 grams at a time, never more than .1, otherwise the action gets slow and the oil looses taste at the end. Something about the size of a paper match head? For oils, if I'm sure it's running dry (not just the battery getting weak) I add a single drop usually, never more than two.

17670 is a protected battery. The protection could be shut down. Leave it in the charger for a while so the trickle charge will bring it up enough to unlock and get recognized (when this happens the LED on the charger should shift over and normal charging start). I'm not sure about the no label, sounds funny, I'd swap it out I think?

HTH

OF

 

[shredhead]

Hey, glad you love it, for sure you're not alone with that.

When I was given one of the prototypes to test I was advised 'no more than four drops from clean'. I think that's a good rule. Say .2 grams at most. I find it best to add about .050 grams at a time, never more than .1, otherwise the action gets slow and the oil looses taste at the end. Something about the size of a paper match head? For oils, if I'm sure it's running dry (not just the battery getting weak) I add a single drop usually, never more than two.

17670 is a protected battery. The protection could be shut down. Leave it in the charger for a while so the trickle charge will bring it up enough to unlock and get recognized (when this happens the LED on the charger should shift over and normal charging start). I'm not sure about the no label, sounds funny, I'd swap it out I think?

HTH

OF

Thanks for the quick reply! Ya ive been putting in probably like .05 at a time. i think ill bump it up a bit for the initial fill. The weird battery actually started charging and im taking it out with me today to test it later. I have a big day full of shit to do, so this is the true test. Got around .5 of bubblegum kush wax for the day vape on!

 

[shredhead]

Another great 24 hours with my DART. Using my pure flow directly ontop my DART core and the stainless steel tip. I love the restriction on the pure flow with and without water. Been starting to put BB sized balls of budder and im getting waaaaay better results. Still haven't packed a whole .2 in there, i feel like ill flood the thing if i do!! Do you guys find alot of the oil gets stuck on the lip around the bottom of the cart? Like the stainless steel part around the ceramic? I've just been using a small knife and scopping it up and placing it back in the middle of the cermaic. Loving this vape. Thank you thermovape.

 

[OF]

Been starting to put BB sized balls of budder and im getting waaaaay better results. Still haven't packed a whole .2 in there, i feel like ill flood the thing if i do!! Do you guys find alot of the oil gets stuck on the lip around the bottom of the cart? Like the stainless steel part around the ceramic? I've just been using a small knife and scopping it up and placing it back in the middle of the cermaic.

Glad you're happy with it, it's a neat tool for sure. Do not add .2 grams, you will surely flood it out. The .2 gram number is from clean and dry, so unless you noted that weight (empty) I suggest you keep with the 'add .050 grams, never more than .1 at a time' rule.

Nothing fatal with too much, but it does slow the action down, increases the 'cooking' of the goods and can lead to waste. Best avoided. "Load small and often".

What you're calling SS is really Nickle plated (brass in the case of the unit, aluminum for the MP), not that it matters a lot from the user end. However, you've probably noticed that not much concentrate really collects on the lip you're talking about. Scraping it off simply delays the next condensate from getting heavy enough to feed itself back onto the ceramic, overall you gain nothing and actually give a chance for some of the oil to 'cook' longer, possibly effecting the taste? It's OK and all, just be very careful not to chip or otherwise damage the ceramic, it's quite thin and brittle.

Best wishes.

OF

 

[NoName]

Another great 24 hours with my DART. Using my pure flow directly ontop my DART core and the stainless steel tip. I love the restriction on the pure flow with and without water. Been starting to put BB sized balls of budder and im getting waaaaay better results. Still haven't packed a whole .2 in there, i feel like ill flood the thing if i do!! Do you guys find alot of the oil gets stuck on the lip around the bottom of the cart? Like the stainless steel part around the ceramic? I've just been using a small knife and scopping it up and placing it back in the middle of the cermaic. Loving this vape. Thank you thermovape.

I also find a little oil collecting around the nickel-plated part around the ceramic. I believe that OF (and possibly other FCr's) have said to be careful when 'working' around the ceramic - so I've been gently scooping up the excess oil with a toothpick to gently reposition onto the ceramic.

I'm with you on the use of some nice budder (Girl Scout Cookies) . The taste is unbelievable, and rips like you can't believe. Thanks to TV and everyone in the community for a wonderful product and all the great suggestions to make this baby really shine. Now off in search of waves. Happy Sunday everyone!

Mahalo,
NoName

 

[Nick Again]

It's OK and all, just be very careful not to chip or otherwise damage the ceramic, it's quite thin and brittle.

I also find a little oil collecting around the stainless steel part around the ceramic. I believe that OF (and possibly other FCr's) have said to be careful when 'working' around the ceramic - so I've been gently scooping up the excess oil with a toothpick to gently reposition the oil onto the ceramic.

It is difficult to beat the cost advantage of a toothpick, but somehow I feel more secure using TV's cute (but expensive) Teflon tipped tool. At least I can tell myself that I know it is intended not to scratch or chip the ceramic (I clean too many other similar things with paperclips with one end ground sharp - a very bad choice for something like this, but great for scraping inside log vape stems).

Another trick: When you're about to clean it and don't want to add any more concentrate, a couple drops of Everclear rolled around will carry the condensate back to the heater (and I don't worry about breathing the ethanol - everyone should decide for themselves) and let you get those last few hits out (also, the few wisps of refluxing EtOh cleans the DART top well). If you use a Pureflow or Smoothflow you can just use EC instead of water through the mouthpiece (I've done it - but not for any particular reason other than not having water with me).

-NDA