Discontinued ThermoVape Evolution

[zainwolf]

High peeps, I'm a nicotine vaper and long time cannabis user. After getting away from a 33 year cigarette habit, I found combustion to just be too harsh and it got to be too hard. So of course I did some research and ended up here... The first vaporizer I went for is the thermovape evolution because it works with some of the gear I already have and I'm pretty impressed with it so far!

I made the elementary mistake of getting the 6v version thinking my lava tube would push it fine but of course it would barely make it warm up at all. Based on my experiences with e-cig heating coils of varying resistances, I somehow expect the 6v version to be more enduring and higher performing.

Until my lifepo4 batteries can arrive, I was too keen to try the effectiveness of this little beast, so rigged a pair of 3.7v AW IMRs and they certainly do the job! I'm not sure how or why but the first couple of times, I was accidentally able to combust a little possibly due to the slightly higher voltage? It hasn't been prone to that since then but actually seems to take a little longer to get vaporizing lately.

All in all, I really like it so far and am glad I got a spare heater core. The mouthpiece does seem to get a little hot. I'm thinking a universal drip tip adapter from cherry vape would do the job here, it would add a bit of extra length and it's made from delrin so wouldn't let so much heat travel up to sensitive lips perhaps. I haven't waded quite all the way through this over 70 page thread yet, maybe someone has already tried this idea?

I'm so vaked right now, both my pain and anxiety are fairly managed so much more nicely now.

I did also want to say I really like the stainless steel mesh "basket" idea, it shouldn't be hard to make happen, 400 and 325 SS mesh are gradually becoming more common for the e-cig suppliers to carry (as rebuild-able atomizers have been increasing in popularity)

I'm very impressed with the quality of vapes I'm getting from such a tiny and relatively inexpensive thing! I also have the AVA atomizer for my nicotine vaping and it is likewise very impressive, perhaps even more so since I'm experienced with e-liquid vaporizing. I'll be sad when it wears out. The only way the AVA could be better is if you could replace the heating coil when it wears out.

Thanks ThermoVape :-) and fuck combustion

 

[jambandphan03]

I know they are working on a relatively low cost coil replacement program, which we should hear more about in the near future. They are still finalizing the details on that. So when your AVA or any other TV products have a coil failure that is outside of the warranty period, it can be fixed at a lower cost than replacing the whole thing. At least that was my understanding, but none of it is set in stone as of yet.

 

[SameOldTim]

We are constantly striving to make new products to cater to our customer's requests. In that spirit, we would like introduce the ThermoVape Tru-Flow UFO Mouthpieces. They will be offered in Standard Length and Extended Length Delrin, as well as Aluminium, and PTFE.
The Tru-Flow UFO is intended to remove large particulates from your vapor, and serve as a splash shield for E-liquids and concentrates. The Unidentified Filtering Object also redirects the air path, cooling your inhalations. This is ideal for use with a Windowed Revolution Kit, or E-Liquid Kit.
This filtered mouthpiece is NOT for use with T1 top caps, Evolution insulated bodies, or in combination with a DART Loading Tool.

They are available now at: ThermoVape.com

 

[OF]

Until my lifepo4 batteries can arrive, I was too keen to try the effectiveness of this little beast, so rigged a pair of 3.7v AW IMRs and they certainly do the job! I'm not sure how or why but the first couple of times, I was accidentally able to combust a little possibly due to the slightly higher voltage?

Howdy, and welcome to the fun.

No doubt about it working...or combusting. There's nothing "slightly higher" about doing that, those cells are known to total closer to 8.4 when freshly charged (unlike the LiFePOs). This is closer to 40% more voltage in fact, which also causes 40% more current so when the increases are multiplied together they basically double the power output. Yes, you ran close to twice the rated power with your experiment.

My advice would be to not to that again, until you're very experienced with the unit, and even then very carefully.

OF

 

[JoeKickass]

They are available now at: ThermoVape.com

Massive respect for anyone who has the fireproof lips required to order the aluminum version...

 

[Peloton]

Massive respect for anyone who has the fireproof lips required to order the aluminum version...

Haha. Same, that'd be pretty wild! I think it's more for the ecig crowd though... as a matter of fact, I use the aluminum tip on my RES usually. It just seems to give the vapor a coolness that goes well with the flavor.

 

[B.]

i also have found that when the TV base and Evo really get warmed up that they produce big time... but at this point everything is getting damn warm and can get quite uncomfortable.

A hot evo is a happy evo for sure. I've gone to 45 sec warm ups, and I'll often keep the switch on through my first couple of hits. When my evo is hot the hits really reminds me of a log vape.

2clicker-do you have the evo interface? I was using my evo on the regular switch I got with the rev, and after a while it would get hot. Now I have the interface switch, it makes a huge difference. I highly recommend it. It also looks super fuckin cool. It's only $25.

http://thermovape.com/collections/all/products/evolution-interface

 

[Bob Loblaw]

A hot evo is a happy evo for sure. I've gone to 45 sec warm ups, and I'll often keep the switch on through my first couple of hits. When my evo is hot the hits really reminds me of a log vape.

2clicker-do you have the evo interface? I was using my evo on the regular switch I got with the rev, and after a while it would get hot. Now I have the interface switch, it makes a huge difference. I highly recommend it. It also looks super fuckin cool. It's only $25.

http://thermovape.com/collections/all/products/evolution-interface

am curious about this thing. basically a 510 extension w/ massive insulation? does this work on other 510 power sources or is it cut to fit the rev only? does this work well w/ a dart? tia

 

[jambandphan03]

it only fits to the TV battery body, and it can run the dart/rev, but there is no oil collecting ring like the regular Rev interface has.

 

[Pipes]

It has a sexier look for the uniy as well. With the exception of the leak collector this uniy wins hands down.

 

[Lo]

Is that evolution interface for the t1 ?? All these pieces confuse me like legos lol

I have the T1 and someone just sent me the Evo to try. It does screw into t1 but looks a bit silly but I saw two different "adapters" on their website and neither mentioned evo Confusing stuff I swear.

 

[jambandphan03]

This is what you would want to get if you have the T1 body and the Evo heating core.

http://thermovape.com/collections/all/products/evolution-interface

 

[Polmol]

My Evo is in the mail, I have a question:

If I grind my herb too finely, is there a chance it might fall through the little holes and combust? And maybe break my Evo at the same time?

 

[jambandphan03]

I can't say for sure if it will harm the Evo if crumbs get in there, I regularly blow mine clean from the threaded end because some bits do get down in there. A medium grind is ideal as far as I've seen posted here. You probably don't want it too finly ground or powdery, it might restrict airflow, and possibly create other issues. If you don't have a med grind grinder, break it up by hand, until it's small bits or use scissors. That is my advice anyway...

 

[JoeKickass]

Yeah jam is right, but I use one of those little grinders that grinds ridiculously fine and it works great. Just be sure to not pack it down at all, I let the tiny green bits just fall in until it's even with the rim. Airflow is key, the only time I ever combusted was because I packed it way down (already pretty vaped so not thinking clearly...)

 

[OF]

If I grind my herb too finely, is there a chance it might fall through the little holes and combust? And maybe break my Evo at the same time?

Go ahead and grind it fine, it works better that way. Yes a tiny bit might get down past the grid, but that will happen no matter how fine the grind. It will just burn up without incident and eventually the ash will get swept or boiled out.

Not to worry. Jam and JKA have it right (again). Lightly fill to the top, don't pack, preheat (maybe 20 seconds even), then start a warming draw. You'll sort it out....

OF

 

[Polmol]

thanks you three!​

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man I can't wait to get it...​

 

[B.]

I agree with the thermogurus. I'm very jealous of the time you guys have to participate here on the level you do, I wish I could do that. It doesn't get said enough, so to you three and everyone else who donates their time and knowledge here, THANK YOU!!!!!! You are all appreciated.

I use a fairly fine grind, think 2 piece grinder not 4 piece.

Initially I dropped a screen in to cover the bottom, but I've abandoned that practice, and I haven't noticed a change.

Hmmm...speaking of free time,maybe I'll have an evo sesh and get some glass involved and document the sesh for the group. Stay tuned.

 

[2clicker]

2clicker-do you have the evo interface? I was using my evo on the regular switch I got with the rev, and after a while it would get hot. Now I have the interface switch, it makes a huge difference. I highly recommend it. It also looks super fuckin cool. It's only $25.

yes ive got the Evo interface and prefer it to the Rev interface. however it has been managing to keep coming apart on me with minimal effort. putting it back together isnt very hard, but its starting to get a tad annoying.

Just be sure to not pack it down at all, I let the tiny green bits just fall in until it's even with the rim. Airflow is key, the only time I ever combusted was because I packed it way down (already pretty vaped so not thinking clearly...)

i still have to disagree with not packing it down. i pack my botanicals down with medium firmness and top it with the domed screen to keep that load in place... and never combust. i have tried on purpose and cannot get it to combust. the only time i have ever combusted with my Evo was when i was running it in its stock configuration.

this is on the LV version tho... not sure if the SV version would differ.

*EDIT*
oh and here is my mouth piece / UFO mod... i used Jam's idea with the spring and fixed the UFO to the end of it. that way you just pack your load, and put the mouth piece on. the UFO/spring combo automatically pushes down the load and holds it in place. and the the UFO does its thing helping to cool the vapor. works well, but im using a spring with far too high of a spring rate. basically the spring slowly pushes out the mouth piece, but a spring with the correct rate would work magically.

what do you think?

 

[PB88123]

yes ive got the Evo interface and prefer it to the Rev interface. however it has been managing to keep coming apart on me with minimal effort. putting it back together isnt very hard, but its starting to get a tad annoying.

TV said

The new Evolution Interface also has an outer Delrin cap, it is a press fit with aligning pins to stop rotational spin. It is removable to allow adaptation to other current and future Res systems, it does take some effort to press it back together (make sure pins are aligned), Put it in some hot water for a few and it will go right on.

 

[Slightly Medicated]

Seems pretty smart. I would say it will require more maintenance then the stock solution. I assume you would need to keep the spring clean. Otherwise I imagine the spring would get sticky and not work so well. I think you are right it depends on the tension. Very interesting.

 

[OF]

Hmmm...speaking of free time,maybe I'll have an evo sesh and get some glass involved and document the sesh for the group.

No, no, no. You're not paying attention. That's not 'free time' that's research. Get the terms right if you ever want to be taken seriously......

As soon as some other forum guy reads it, it's Peer Reviewed Research, right? So what if the peer was so awe struck he was speechless? Not really your fault.

It's not really as hard as it looks, just take it one step at a time and remember where you parked.....

OF

 

[Pipes]

oh and here is my mouth piece / UFO mod... i used Jam's idea with the spring and fixed the UFO to the end of it. that way you just pack your load, and put the mouth piece on. the UFO/spring combo automatically pushes down the load and holds it in place. and the the UFO does its thing helping to cool the vapor. works well, but im using a spring with far too high of a spring rate. basically the spring slowly pushes out the mouth piece, but a spring with the correct rate would work magically.

what do you think?

Looks good. Where did you get the spring from and more important is the material vapor path safe?
Just asking as playing it safe is always best.
Pipes

 

[2clicker]

yes ive got the Evo interface and prefer it to the Rev interface. however it has been managing to keep coming apart on me with minimal effort. putting it back together isnt very hard, but its starting to get a tad annoying.

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TV said​

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The new Evolution Interface also has an outer Delrin cap, it is a press fit with aligning pins to stop rotational spin. It is removable to allow adaptation to other current and future Res systems, it does take some effort to press it back together (make sure pins are aligned), Put it in some hot water for a few and it will go right on.

im aware of its construction and how its meant to be used. im just saying that mine sometimes just comes apart during regular usage. like when simply unscrewing it to get to the battery. sometimes ill be unscrewing it and the delrin cap just pops off in my hand leaving the interface halfway threaded on the base.

Seems pretty smart. I would say it will require more maintenance then the stock solution. I assume you would need to keep the spring clean. Otherwise I imagine the spring would get sticky and not work so well. I think you are right it depends on the tension. Very interesting.

well only time will tell how long the spring can go before needing to be cleaned. unfortunately that test wont start until i get some softer rated springs. if it does require more maint i doubt it would be very much more. besides im running the dome screen setup of which will require the cleaning of the screen. ill likely just clean them at the same time. i would imagine the screen will require a cleaning well before the spring would. i wonder if a teflon coated spring would work in this regard...

Looks good. Where did you get the spring from and more important is the material vapor path safe?
Just asking as playing it safe is always best.
Pipes

i got them at McMasterCarr.com (part #1986K58 "Type 302 Stainless Steel Compression Spring, 1.00" Length, .219" Od, .016" Wire Diameter"). unfortunately that part # doesnt do much good other than to give you the specs. im not sure if MMC offers the same size spring in a different spring rate so i may need to find another supplier. Grainger may have something. good question about the material. i would never put any metal other than SS in the air path.

 

[Polmol]

I got the 6V kit, are there batteries I can buy somewhere that would be longer-lasting?