Discontinued ThermoVape Evolution

[Rocco]

Thanks. I actually found a revolution for $ 149.99
I called and they have it in stock so ill be getting that.

Id recommend checking out the Ebay first,I just scored a steal on their with an Evo set up (almost got a deal on a T1 too, alas I was outbid ) I kinda keep a watch on it and theres some alright prices (better than retail sites) going on ATM.

 

[Rocco]

So I have to send my Cera in for repair, went ahead and went back to the EVO and used the samce technique I was using witht he Cera and got near identical results on my 6V Evo as I do with my Cera.

The technique im reffereing to is this:

1. use full charge batteries to start.
2. Turn the unit on before you load anything in it
3.Let the core glow for about 10-20 seconds (depends on how moist your herbs and the surrounding atmosphere are.)
4. Load your herbs while the unit is still on, core glowing and all.
5. Keep the unit on another 5 seconds (this step is assisting in taking the water weight out of the herb)
6. Inhale for a good 10-15 seconds with a slow draw at first and as more time passes you can draw a little harder (again... keeping in mind the temperature, your moisture conditions of your herb and the air around you).

Ps. Once you get it going just ride the switch the whole time not letting go and sip on it sort of like a cigar, a very tasty cigar


This is my 6 step system to get some wicked vapor using the 3.7 V EVO core with the standard Delrin mouthpiece on and the same cloth that Is in the pictures I posted on page 117 of this same thread.

 

[VapeAttic]

There is currently an Evo for bid on eBay if anyone is interested. Just thought I'd share the info.

 

[Rocco]

Man Im reallllly bummed out!

So I sent my Cera back to get repaired and I went ahead and sent my Fully functioning 3.7v EVO Core to be upgraded to an HP EVO Core.
.....So Today I got a notice that they could not do HP cores anymore and my only options were to have it rebuilt as A 3.7v or 6v core....? So since I already also have a 6v EVO t home it would be no benefit to get it rebuilt as that.. and since the one I sent them was already 3.7v (that I worked wasnt enough,hence the HP upgrade i wanted) I'm back to having an LV Evo that I probably wont use... I just hope I dont get charged for the rebuild since I sent in a functioning core for an upgrade, not a plain rebuild...

Yes I was sure to send an email and ask TET if I was going to be charged and I already explained it to them about the same as I am here. But I just thought I would post this so no one else gets there hopes up about the now discontinued HP Core option...

 

[skippy]

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[Rocco]

Im confused as to why your post is in here skippy? Am I missing something or overlooking something?

 

[skippy]

Im confused as to why your post is in here skippy? Am I missing something or overlooking something?

Whoops, sorry, that shouldn't be there. I was reading through this thread yesterday and was going to ask a question but then changed my mind, I must have touched on post, it was unintentional,sorry.

 

[Rocco]

Ahh gotchya, no worries!

But ya let it be known.. HP Evo Cores are not an option anymore.... So this leaves just the standard 3.7v or 6v available as a rebuild option.

 

[Kim Jansson]

hi
got my evolution 6v 10 days ago,but its not me. love thermovapes ideas and stuff, but i dont like to directinhale as i have too with the evolution. i like to draw like on a joint. when using the evo i feel and look like a toothless whore blowing a dead mans c...
so my question is, can i smoke other things on this,if not, what will happen if i try with concentrates? i know that the rev is the answer and im ordering one soon, .
and thx to you people here on the forum for having so much patience and knowlegde.
yours Kim

 

[Rocco]

First of all, the device your looking for to suit ALL your needs is the Thermovape Cera (im a proud owner of the EO and LL cart and its a MAJOR improvement compared to the 1st gen TET products, though I still keep my 6v and HP core on hand for rainy days or back up. But ill help ya out with getting that EVO working substantially better



Ok well if your looking to do concentrates its depends on what form and kind of concentrate (i.e. wax, qwiso, reclaim..etc..)

I succesffully vaped that dark gooey oil known as qwiso (though mine were really the remnants of everclear tinctures)

Steps;
1. place a smaller screen in the bottom of the evo to prevent oil clogging your core(cut a regular screen down to the same size as the barrel of your EVO)
2.Bend a 2nd metal pipe screen where the edges fold inwards like a little bowl shape or cone.
3. Warm up your EVO for a good 30-60 seconds. (Until the handle is warm should be ideal)
4. Put your oil in the little basket you made using your metal screen and try to for the best ball shape you can.
5. Hold the switch the WHOLE TIME, dont let off the switch even between hits, just take very long steady drags, each hit will gradually be a little larger so dont be discouraged by the wimpy first few.


PS. Might do you some good to go back a few pages and observe the pictures of how I set up my EVO (Whip attachment and airflow control using a small handkerchief) This set up almost double my satisfaction of the device just using simple materials laying around my house. A whip,(from my asthma nebulizer tube) and microfiber eyeglass cloth held on by a twisty tie.

 

[SameOldTim]

hi
got my evolution 6v 10 days ago,but its not me. love thermovapes ideas and stuff, but i dont like to directinhale as i have too with the evolution. i like to draw like on a joint. when using the evo i feel and look like a toothless whore blowing a dead mans c...
so my question is, can i smoke other things on this,if not, what will happen if i try with concentrates? i know that the rev is the answer and im ordering one soon, .
and thx to you people here on the forum for having so much patience and knowlegde.
yours Kim

First of all, the device your looking for to suit ALL your needs is the Thermovape Cera (im a proud owner of the EO and LL cart and its a MAJOR improvement compared to the 1st gen TET products, though I still keep my 6v and HP core on hand for rainy days or back up. But ill help ya out with getting that EVO working substantially better



Ok well if your looking to do concentrates its depends on what form and kind of concentrate (i.e. wax, qwiso, reclaim..etc..)

I succesffully vaped that dark gooey oil known as qwiso (though mine were really the remnants of everclear tinctures)

Steps;
1. place a smaller screen in the bottom of the evo to prevent oil clogging your core(cut a regular screen down to the same size as the barrel of your EVO)
2.Bend a 2nd metal pipe screen where the edges fold inwards like a little bowl shape or cone.
3. Warm up your EVO for a good 30-60 seconds. (Until the handle is warm should be ideal)
4. Put your oil in the little basket you made using your metal screen and try to for the best ball shape you can.
5. Hold the switch the WHOLE TIME, dont let off the switch even between hits, just take very long steady drags, each hit will gradually be a little larger so dont be discouraged by the wimpy first few.


PS. Might do you some good to go back a few pages and observe the pictures of how I set up my EVO (Whip attachment and airflow control using a small handkerchief) This set up almost double my satisfaction of the device just using simple materials laying around my house. A whip,(from my asthma nebulizer tube) and microfiber eyeglass cloth held on by a twisty tie.

This is a great breakdown as to how to use the Evo with concentrates!!! I did a lot of experimenting putting the concentrate on stainless mesh within the Evo with a lot of success. Some people also reported using a piece of cotton in the Evo with some success. You can also mix the oil in your flower with good results, thats my personal favorite actually.

Cheers,
Tim

 

[incandenza]

Hello everyone, I finally got around to trying out the Evolution LV after having purchased it here on FC classifieds. I was so excited to get this device. One thing I definitely appreciate is the quality of craftsmanship in TET devices. I have been using it on the Ultra with 14500 batteries.

My first attempts with this device were met with frustration. I kept thinking that the device was not getting hot enough. I am used to big clouds on the T1, but going to the Evolution LV I had to readjust my expectations. The taste and feeling were definitely there, and I think more accentuated than in a lot of devices I've tried. But no big vapor clouds, which is what I was waiting for. I began using longer pre-heat times, up to 15 seconds. Vapor production on the LV seems to be ideal at this temperature with a medium loose grind.

Although the vapor is less dense, the heating element is more efficient and the device is more compact. On the Ultra I can almost entirely conceal the device with my hand. These are important trade-offs. Given that the Evolution is made for personal use, not in groups, I think the performance is excellent for that application (and for stealth vaping).

Now to discuss the overall effect of the vapor, I think I would relate to what OF stated earlier in this post. The effect creeps up on the user, at least it did the first few times I tried it. Because the lack of vapor clouds, the user may suspect that he is not getting any active ingredients, until a few moments later when the effect comes rushing into the head. "Where did that come from--hey, this thing does work!"

I was able to get a solid 10-15 hits from the unit on a 14500 battery, but I have yet to try it on a 17670, I think that might improve performance. It is efficient enough to get enough hits for 1-2 bowls on a single charge of the 14500 battery.

I have already started to notice difficulty using the orange O-Ring that seals the sleeve to the chamber. It will slide out of position when the sleeve is taken off the unit, causing the user to have to adjust constantly. I have found that the unit operates without the O-Ring in place, provided the top of the sleeve is fully pressed down.

Overall, I give the Evolution LV, in the configuration I was using, a 4/5 rating. I would consider using this vaporizer for situations where I need to be discrete or where I want something small to take on the go. This is a very unique device, being the first (and only?) 510 flower cart. But it also lacks in power to provide the satisfying vapor clouds we are used to seeing in the T1 or the Cera LL, thus I would be hesitant to recommend this to someone who would be using it as their default device. The Evolution LV has good effect and excellent flavor. The battery life is vastly improved compared to the T1, and efficiency is one of this device's best features. Yet the vapor quality does not compare favorably to the T1, and that's why I give it a 4/5 rating.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Hey incandenza!! Glad to see it got over there safe and sound... now I know why you didn't reply to my PM about letting me know when it got there! Neat little creeper effect, huh? Happy to hear you've put it to good use, I enjoyed it too but honestly it wasn't for me and I hated to see it just sitting there collecting dust. Enjoy

Quick edit: regarding the o-ring coming off, I had good luck by spinning the cover while pulling it out. It slips around the o-ring instead of putting the full pulling force on it.

And for those wondering, the picture contains two different transactions from FC Friend's kit was put together by us. We're a good bunch!


Now, God forbid you can do oils, because you'll be looking at the Revolution pretty soon, and maybe even the Cera Essential Oil cart and whenever they get around to it, an adapter to slap on the Ultra (that's what I'm planning on doing, anyways!)

 

[OF]

"Where did that come from--hey, this thing does work!"

I was able to get a solid 10-15 hits from the unit on a 14500 battery, but I have yet to try it on a 17670, I think that might improve performance. It is efficient enough to get enough hits for 1-2 bowls on a single charge of the 14500 battery.

I have already started to notice difficulty using the orange O-Ring that seals the sleeve to the chamber.

This is a very unique device, being the first (and only?) 510 flower cart.

The Evolution LV has good effect and excellent flavor. The battery life is vastly improved compared to the T1, and efficiency is one of this device's best features. Yet the vapor quality does not compare favorably to the T1, and that's why I give it a 4/5 rating.

I have to agree with you in all points, well though out review, thanks.

For sure that "oh, my!" moment is a pivotal one. I wonder if guys who never blaze first get it the same way? I think your mind/experience sets you up there?

For sure this is a compromise from T1 in many ways but that was the idea. I Beta tested a lot of configurations trying to balance things. Fun times, I'd come buy every week or so, tell Tim and Noah what I thought of it (performance/battery life/taste and so on). Then Tim would strip it down and rewind the heater again for the next test. I'm glad they kept track, because I sure lost it. The goals also included options for concentrate use, which I think were successful.

I think the 17670 gives about 3 times the battery life and a bit faster heating overall (that last part is harto judge for me), a decided improvement if the larger size is OK. This too contributes to the 'tinker's delight' aspects of the core I think. I'd never thought about the 'first (only) 510 herb cart part, but I think you're basically right. Lots of others have tried, unsuccessfully IMO, many reinventing combustion in the process but it was not only purpose built for the job 'from the connector up' but uses convection in a controlled, experienced way......a huge advantage IMO.

As the Q may says, twisting the cover on and off helps keep the ring in place and makes it easier to shift the cover. I usually don't use it, it originally came to me for testing without rings, that was added based on input from one of the other Beta Testers IIRC.

For a device setting out to improve battery life, reduce size, eliminate stirring, increase stealth, add flexibility and all the rest I'd count it a big success. The compromises cost it in the 'ideal vape' category I guess....but that's still an open completion?

FWIW I think it's the long bowl and no stirring that impacts the flavor so much, but that too is part of the deal. The fleas come with the dog.

Thanks again, great overview, obvious experience based stuff there, quite useful. Too bad they're not made any more.....

OF

 

[Porquiplane]

So heres a fun one,

Have a Evolution SV that wont warm up on any battery combo (3.7v, 6v, or 7.4v) with the unit i have (Persei).

It never really worked or produced ANY noticeable vapor, though its fully known that it works BEST with a TV unit. At this point in time im wanting to get rid of it as a Cera has been purchased, but is there a way to repair it? is it of any value or as good as junk?

 

[OF]

Have a Evolution SV that wont warm up on any battery combo (3.7v, 6v, or 7.4v) with the unit i have (Persei).

It never really worked or produced ANY noticeable vapor, though its fully known that it works BEST with a TV unit. At this point in time im wanting to get rid of it as a Cera has been purchased, but is there a way to repair it? is it of any value or as good as junk?

In the (unlikely) event it's dead, TV will rebuild it to 'like new' for $15. They're pretty tough, however, I suspect it's an adapter problem as 6 Volts from Persei will drive it normally (I've done it). Being out of production if you don't want it, I'm sure some lucky soul can give it a good home.....you might consider the classifieds? Even 'broken' (if it indeed is), it's pretty valuable to a potential owner.

OF

 

[Zingbuddah]

Yeah...I know a guy that would be interested <wink wink>

 

[OF]

Yeah...I know a guy that would be interested <wink wink>

Anyone we know? If he's got your support, must be a hellofa fella?

OF

 

[Porquiplane]

In the (unlikely) event it's dead, TV will rebuild it to 'like new' for $15. They're pretty tough, however, I suspect it's an adapter problem as 6 Volts from Persei will drive it normally (I've done it). Being out of production if you don't want it, I'm sure some lucky soul can give it a good home.....you might consider the classifieds? Even 'broken' (if it indeed is), it's pretty valuable to a potential owner.

OF

Thing with that is there is only one 510 adapter that was used for both the LV Revolution Dart and the SV Evo. The LV Rev works perfect, and was tested tonight. However the SV Evolution would not get hot on any battery. Im going to put it up, but still unsure as to what the reason for no heat production is...

 

[OF]

Thing with that is there is only one 510 adapter that was used for both the LV Revolution Dart and the SV Evo. The LV Rev works perfect, and was tested tonight. However the SV Evolution would not get hot on any battery. Im going to put it up, but still unsure as to what the reason for no heat production is...

Yes, but..... (isn't there always).

The issue may be the way TV makes carts. It's not like 'everyone else' in that there's no compliance in the center pin on their carts. Check out an Omicron or other cart and you'll see the center pin floats in a rubber seal so when the screw comes up solid there's enough 'give' to make the center work right. Not so with TV.

TV supplies have floating switches instead. This can lead to exactly the situation you have now. Run them on adapters and it's not guaranteed that the fit will be right. A good cart might not work on one adapter, but is fine with the next.

Omicron and similar e-cig stuff is easy in this respect, match the threads and you're basically done. Not so here.

OF

 

[Porquiplane]

Yes, but..... (isn't there always).

The issue may be the way TV makes carts. It's not like 'everyone else' in that there's no compliance in the center pin on their carts. Check out an Omicron or other cart and you'll see the center pin floats in a rubber seal so when the screw comes up solid there's enough 'give' to make the center work right. Not so with TV.

TV supplies have floating switches instead. This can lead to exactly the situation you have now. Run them on adapters and it's not guaranteed that the fit will be right. A good cart might not work on one adapter, but is fine with the next.

Omicron and similar e-cig stuff is easy in this respect, match the threads and you're basically done. Not so here.

OF

Thanks OF. Decided it was time to put it up as it hasnt been used and maybe someone else can fiddle with it and get it working. Itll be a steal for someone if thats the reason its not working...

 

[Rocco]

I had a question while were on the subject of batteries and dead EVO carts.

I recently had A LV Evo upgraded to an HP EVO and when my Cera broke down again I opted for the HP EVO and puffed away, well for about 15 minutes.. I knew it worked fine with 3.7 battery that came with the LV EVO from TET but it wasnt too diferent from the performance of my other EVO, the 6voltage one, this lead me to try some 6 volts with the HP, the first load was great, worked like An absolute champ! then halfway through the second load it went cold, and now it wont light with any battery.
Did I just simply burn it out cus of the 6 volts? or is the HP supposed to be able to handle 6volts?

 

[NoName]

I had a question while were on the subject of batteries and dead EVO carts.

I recently had A LV Evo upgraded to an HP EVO and when my Cera broke down again I opted for the HP EVO and puffed away, well for about 15 minutes.. I knew it worked fine with 3.7 battery that came with the LV EVO from TET but it wasnt too diferent from the performance of my other EVO, the 6voltage one, this lead me to try some 6 volts with the HP, the first load was great, worked like An absolute champ! then halfway through the second load it went cold, and now it wont light with any battery.
Did I just simply burn it out cus of the 6 volts? or is the HP supposed to be able to handle 6volts?

Hey Rocco,

I'm afraid it sounds like you've blown your cart. The HP LV EVO (I have one as well as the 'regular' LV EVO) should be run at 3.7v (although slightly higher voltages-remember the 17670's are approx 4.15v freshly charged-will work). If it were mine, I'd call TV to confirm HP rebuilds and send it back for a $15 rebuild. Btw, the HP LV EVO is an absolute beast if you power it with one of the 18650 2250mah (I don't have any of the 2900mahs, but they should be equally fine) batts that are used with the CERA). A word of caution however, heat up times are much faster with the 2250 - so be careful or you can easily combust. Good luck.

NN

 

[Rocco]

Awesome advice NoName! I was afraid that was the case, which is a bummer, last time I got my HP LV done it was by Tim since no one else could tackle the job, hes isnt there too much so itd be a shot in the dark but I may try that once I get my Cera back and break in that custom MP from Nothingtooseehere.

And awesome, I was curious if the LV EVO could run on the 18650, I have plenty of those, and was actually about to test that after I got done testing the 6v in it, ohhh well.
So if I just put in an 18650 without the metal battery sleeve ill be good to go? or do I ned to put dimes or anything in the bottom?

One more question, will the Regular HP work with the 18650? I really liked the way 6volts worked on the LV EVO and if the regular evo is the same Id get my cart rewound to that.

 

[NoName]

Awesome advice NoName! I was afraid that was the case, which is a bummer, last time I got my HP LV done it was by Tim since no one else could tackle the job, hes isnt there too much so itd be a shot in the dark but I may try that once I get my Cera back and break in that custom MP from Nothingtooseehere.

And awesome, I was curious if the LV EVO could run on the 18650, I have plenty of those, and was actually about to test that after I got done testing the 6v in it, ohhh well.
So if I just put in an 18650 without the metal battery sleeve ill be good to go? or do I ned to put dimes or anything in the bottom?

One more question, will the Regular HP work with the 18650? I really liked the way 6volts worked on the LV EVO and if the regular evo is the same Id get my cart rewound to that.

Hey Rocco,

Yeah, remove the battery sleeve before inserting the 18650 and then you can slip in a few dimes and tighten the adapter to complete the circuit. As you've probably discovered, it can get pretty hot to the touch so be careful when loosening the adapter when 'powering down'. If you're adventurous and have a small spring handy you can insert it between the negative side of the battery and the base. The spring's tension will complete the circuit for you and if you adjust the adapter (provided the spring you just installed is not too long) you should now be able to 'pull' (rather than 'push') the battery away from the EVO cart and 'open' the circuit (essentially reversing the manner in which you previously utilized the sliding switch for on/off).

Sorry, I'm not familiar with the 'Regular HP' cart (I only have LV TV gear @3.7v and don't know if TV ever rebuilt the SV cores for HP). But my take on it is that the 18650's 3.7v won't get a SV (6v) core anywhere near hot enough to get where you want to be. If you want to run at 6v, I'd contact TV and ask if they can rewind the SV EVO core to a HP SV EVO core. Hope this helps.

NN