I must have a different switch. Mine is round and will not stand up at all.
You do, sounds like. The first sets were round, several of them failed quickly (including the Beta one I had). The contacts seem to degrade causing heating which is bad from many angles, including speeding the failure along. If you've able to measure it (like I was) you can actually see minor changes if you 'wiggle' the button (or at least I could), not a good thing even if everything else is fine. Some seem just fine, of course, with no clue why some work and others not in service.
If mine were working still I'd be using it. Just keeping an eye out for the switch getting hot (not warm, hotter than anything else around it) or erratic operation. It should, of course, be covered under the lifetime part of the warranty.
My enema is working fantastically thank you very much. I haven't felt this cleansed in years.
Like OF said, it is flat and can stand up, but I wouldn't stand it up next to anything breakable or too close to the edge of a table. It will fall and take down everything you love with it...I speak from experience
I'm sure I speak for almost no one here, gee, thanks for sharing that with us Tweek..... If that stuff is really important to you, maybe DubC can set you up with some of his neighbors from his days of living in 'the City' (San Francisco).......some of them are quite keen on the area and have some interesting suggestions I'm told......
I gotta agree with you about standing it up for long. Those of us raised in earthquake country (and who have a healthy respect for Murphy to start with) are already laying it on it's side in a box. Watching it tumble to it's untimely death could well be a shattering experience for both tool and owner
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Battery may explode or fire if mistreated.
Do not dissassemble or dispose of in fire.
Do not charge except specified charging condition.
Do not heat above 212 °F, or Short Circuit.
Do not crush or modify.
What part of this warning doesn't apply now that Panasonic has abandoned the CGR18650CH (and hence ThermoVape Cera users will eventually need some alternative)?
By the way, what's the worst maximum temperature possible inside the battery chamber?
Also, i gather 100 °C (212 °F) only applies to storage,
what about normal operating conditions???
Finally, considering there are people like me who won't feel comfortable while holding an unprotected battery near their face while its being tortured, euh... The battery i mean!...
What protected options are going to be offered exactly???
Please tell me, do you really have worries here or are you just looking for potential issues to raise trouble over and get good folks upset? On the assumption this is a legitimate question (and to hopefully keep others from geting all worked up about it) let me try to address this? In order:
We are not mistreating the battery in this application, what makes you think we are? What constitutes abuse? Do you know?
Taking it apart (which causes shorts in the process, not good) or disposal are your problem, don't blame TV for that please?
We are, hopefully, using well designed chargers (working to the required conditions). Again, if you use a charger other than the recommended one I believe that was your choice, take some responsibility for it and make a good one?
Heating the battery hot enough to
boil the water inside will cause the pressure to rise and open the vent which will keep it safe but cause the battery to dry out over time and fail (vents don't close again, typically). So don't put your Cera in the oven with the battery in it if you want the battery to last. Yes, that's a storage temperature, although I believe working temperature has the same limit (doesn't matter how you made the steam inside, making it is a problem). And we are not "short circuiting" the battery in any way, we're just driving a heavy load so we need batteries able to do that (which is how we got here?). You do understand what a short circuit is, right? I would have thought you did before you underlined it.....I'm putting it in the same category as the fire part. Something you shouldn't be doing whether you own a Cera or not.
Crushing or modifying comes under the same 'you're on your own if you really want to wreck it' idea as above. Or are you saying TV recommends this?
If you're not comfortable I strongly suggest avoiding it, your call. If you'd like to point to a specific concern I'll be happy to look into it a bit more. For now I believe this is plenty safe (from an owner injury standpoint) and the risk of damaging the battery though over discharge is slight and cheap enough to remedy if/when you do. Damaging an expendable battery with fixed lifespan anyway is a whole different danger from fire, burns, explosion and so on. I don't think TV is in any way obligated to offer a battery you personally like better.
If you don't like it, don't buy it. But please don't go firing wild safety claims around unless you've got some meat in there somewhere to base them on? Do you really see a safety issue or are you just fishing? IMO warning us about fire and crushing is a little 'out there'. TIA
Ok, you've had your initial fun times now Tweek... time for some demo vids, STAT
NO, NO, NO! He didn't mean it, Tweek. We don't want any videos, stills, or even any more stories about your 'enema mod' adventures. This is not that kind of forum. Really.
Too much information you know. I'm sure I'm not alone on this?
OF
please im on the verge of buying one someone convince me
