nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
They are! The diameter of the glass core is small enough to make dispensing pretty easy. Same for my launch box, too.
Discontinued Thermovape Cera
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All in the name of science
Must be said those jyars look absolutely perfect. Thanks for the pic nopart
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Herbalist23
Well-Known Member
Thank you.
The evenness of the ABV was MY main concern with the original MP, there where always almost dark brown/black parts on the bottom and almost light green(not vaped stuff) on the top
(was trying several times).Then I used a combination of ear tunnel(gauge?) and regular drip tips sealed with the red o-rings
from TET, with this mod (also direct draw) I got great results (even vaped ABV, vapor after the second, sometimes first draw, 12- 20 draws with vapor production of just one cup!!!)- you can see this mod on page 203.
The concern with this mod was the silicone of the ear tunnel, while its for ears and not for high temperatures (maybe no real concern, but I wasn't sure if it could handle it without outgasing formaldehyde).
You can stir it, but don't have to.
Well the working with the zirconia is a thing for itself.
I tried to saw it with a usual metal saw, without any success, only the saw was loosing some substance
and the zirconia became grey on that area.
Then I went to a jeweler to ask if it would be possible to grind it down to the last edge (told her it is a mouthpiece for a e cig made out of zirconia) but she don't want to do (maybe she wasn't sure about the zirconia???).
Because I don't wanted to go from one jeweler to the next I decided to do it myself, bought a dremel and the diamond wheel (IMO the only thing to do the job) and start to cut it off.
I used a short piece of silicone tube (about 5cm) wich I shoved over the draw end of the MP till the first edge to hold and protect the MP while cutting it.
After that I used the regular dremel grinding tools to do the rest (its a bit tricky to cut it direct to the last edge IMO).
I think if someone can find a jeweler to do the job is much safer, because they handle tiny stuff daily but for someone with a bit of skills and the tools it should be no problem at all
Happy vaping!
Herbalist23
I dont find I have any problem with the original MP I get vapour on the first draw with enough warm up and if not always on the second, and as far as even browning it stands to reason the bottom will turn first as thats were the heat is and the bit that starts to vape first. I find persistence to get the job done will even it out as it moves up the bowl. It also seems that giving her a longer warm up tends to help with getting more of the 'cup' (I like) to the magic temp at once.
Just my
each to thier own. I am very impressed with your work, also it is very cool the ordinary saw couldn't do it.
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Just my
each to thier own. I am very impressed with your work, also it is very cool the ordinary saw couldn't do it.R
I also have no issues with drawing from the UFO ceramic, besides how hot it gets. But a piece of silicone definitely helps that...
What i really want is something like OF mentioned i believe... The same UFO style mouthpiece except cut the mouthpiece part down and hollow it out so you can stick the delrin mouthpiece in it. That would be ideal for me at least...
What i really want is something like OF mentioned i believe... The same UFO style mouthpiece except cut the mouthpiece part down and hollow it out so you can stick the delrin mouthpiece in it. That would be ideal for me at least...
Herbalist23
Well-Known Member
I think that could be done too, just find someone with the right tool and try
Herbalist23
VapoRoor
DAB-a-DAB I'll dooooo
Yes this mp would be ideal for me, as I have 4 delrin mps & they'd be put to use.
I like the LL Cart for its quick hits, flavor, ease of cleaning plus the heat retention.
Today,
I used a latching mechanism this time around.
Powered on for 20 seconds with the top cap & mp tip off
Tapped in some material to the top
Gave it a light tap down with my pinky.
Here's where I'm unsure.
I read the material isn't being vaporized if air is NOT being drawn through the core ?
This info is from vaporpedia
Since the material isn't vaporized while sitting in the 'cup' with no airflow (good name Robbo)
A light draw would effectively vape the whole bowl Right?
I'm trying to get evenly vaped material and I keep ending up with a 7 minute session and almost half of the herb looks black?
I am pre heating for 15-20 seconds and loading in dry ground herb
A few pulls, test puff & then 1 good long pull. Lighter than the rest
A Big vapor cloud is the result
Then I try again another big tasty vapor cloud
Another.
Then it gets so slightly fainter.
Starts fading off a lot after hit 7 or 8
So am I going for too long ?
I feel it is all extracted on the bottom but I'm having trouble getting the outer top area vaped evenly. seems there's 10%-15% left of the bowl ?
If you're willing to spend a little money you can have somebody build you a custom mouth piece out of ceramic like I did. It wasn't too expensive and then you can get exactly what you want. See http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/thermovape-cera.8332/page-161#post-390387. I can give you the exact measurements, o-ring sizes, etc. If you build one I'll probably buy
Yes. the material isn't vaporized while sitting in the 'cup'. Not sure if your question is if ONE light draw would effectively vape the whole bowl, but a light draw is definitely the way to get it started. Once the bowl is hot enough (say power on for 2 minutes with 3 or so draws), your draws can be fast and hard with great results.
Yes, I think you are going too long. It usually takes me about 5 minutes tops to complete a bowl. My bowls are usually packed medium-tight about 3/4 full. After it starts "fading off" at your 7th or 8th hit, that's when I usually stop. The diminished (or burnt popcorn) taste is the big "tell tale sign" that you should call it done. When I do, I have an evenly medium/light brown color throughout. You can continue to go longer in order to vape even further, but that's how you get to the black, and it usually starts at the bottom and will eventually move up if you keep going.
There is always a little something left in vaped buds. Go medium brown like me and you may have 20% left. Go black and it may be reduced to 5-10%. Either way they can be recycled into baked goods, oils or tinctures if you wish.
VapoRoor
DAB-a-DAB I'll dooooo
Yeah I just remember my no2 evenly vaping the material and that was a lot cheaper than my Cera
Given the no2 produced light to medium hits, herb only & versus the Cera can produce light to Deep heavy hits, 2 other interchangable cores.
I just need to dial in my draw & pre heat longer?
Thanks for all the tips
Given the no2 produced light to medium hits, herb only & versus the Cera can produce light to Deep heavy hits, 2 other interchangable cores.
I just need to dial in my draw & pre heat longer?
Thanks for all the tips
Chill Dude
Well-Known Member
Okay, so I think I'm finally ready to order a Cera. I love my Solo for flowers, so I think I'll opt for the EO version only for concentrates. I do have a couple questions though:
First off, is now a good time to buy? I know early on there were a lot of units being sent back to Thermovape for various problems. Have all of the issues basically been resolved?
As far as the EO cart is concerned, is a latching switch mod really necessary, or does the momentary switch work well enough for most. It seems a latching switch is needed more with the LL cart. Is that correct?
I'm also a little confused on which mouth piece to order and if I need to order a thermo cap for heat protection? I believe the EO kit comes with just the 510 mp. For EO what should I buy, the ceramic mp with a thermo cap or just use the 510 mp? How about the smooth flow moisture conditioner mp...is that any good??
I guess what I'm trying to say is what do I need to buy to have an EO Cera turnkey right out of the box? I simply want a quality concentrate vape that will work well out of the box without breakng out the tool box, or driving to a hardware store, or searching endlessly for possible mods online LOL...
Of course, I'm going to purchase an extra battery and a charging cord. I'm mainly concerned about the functionality of the momentary switch, the best mp to use for EO, and if I need a thermo cap or sleeve for heat protection. Any advice is much appreciated.
First off, is now a good time to buy? I know early on there were a lot of units being sent back to Thermovape for various problems. Have all of the issues basically been resolved?
As far as the EO cart is concerned, is a latching switch mod really necessary, or does the momentary switch work well enough for most. It seems a latching switch is needed more with the LL cart. Is that correct?
I'm also a little confused on which mouth piece to order and if I need to order a thermo cap for heat protection? I believe the EO kit comes with just the 510 mp. For EO what should I buy, the ceramic mp with a thermo cap or just use the 510 mp? How about the smooth flow moisture conditioner mp...is that any good??
I guess what I'm trying to say is what do I need to buy to have an EO Cera turnkey right out of the box? I simply want a quality concentrate vape that will work well out of the box without breakng out the tool box, or driving to a hardware store, or searching endlessly for possible mods online LOL...
Of course, I'm going to purchase an extra battery and a charging cord. I'm mainly concerned about the functionality of the momentary switch, the best mp to use for EO, and if I need a thermo cap or sleeve for heat protection. Any advice is much appreciated.
Haywood
Onward Thru the Fog
Now that the revised EL core is about ready to ship, can you (or OF, if you know), go over the differences between the EO and EL cores. I'm both interested in the mechanical/electrical differences and the real world usage differences.
Thanks!
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t-dub
Vapor Sloth
I am also interested in how people think the PEG200/400 work Liquidizer is doing will to relate to these cartridges moving forward.
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nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
I'm Mr. LL but I'll take a stab at some quick answers for you!
I believe so, I don't think I've heard of any (maybe one?) having problems in a while.
You have it right, it doesn't take long for the EO core to get going so momentary works just fine. Having a latch on an EO cart also poses a safety hazard. A few people who tried it have reported accidentally leaving them on and having them spit out hot oil after a while…
I'm pretty sure the CEO package now comes with the ceramic mouthpiece once again, as well as a drip tip. I believe the vast majority of EO users prefer using a drip tip. I don't think the thermal cap is necessary for CEO, even if you did use the ceramic MP. Though, It can be used to mate the ceramic MP with a GonG joint without using an o-ring. If you're gonna use it with glass then it might be useful? It is only $5.
Hope this helps!
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I cant claim coining 'cup' im pretty sure it was Herbalist...
I find when the vapour starts to diminish if I want more I pull off the cap poke the load down with my finger, can go down below the rim this time, and it will put out a few monster rips. Can do this a few times usually going a bit deeper each time and it will even the brown right out.
Be warned though when I say monster hits I really mean it, can take a guy by surprise.
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VapoRoor
DAB-a-DAB I'll dooooo
Yeah man I just happened to experience that with a 2900 NCR18650PD battery at 3.6v
I let it heat up for about 2 minutes. Just to experiment
Tapped in a full bowl with a light pack
Great hits.
4 great flavorful hits
5 good ending hits
Material was definitely brown not black this time with a few light green yellow specs
I gave it a very light draw at first and had the power on the whole session
Medium pulls towards the end
I took the cap off & packed it down like Robbo said
2 hard pulls and nice vapor
I bet ill get better results if I pull a little less hard next time and a fully charged battery
After the repack the abv was dark brown & light brown
More on the darkside
The cera LLC has given me the most satisfying hits out of a vape since I started Vaping 3 or 4 years ago
I really want the EO :-)
Thanks for the tips FC
I'm still waiting for my Sony US18650V3 2150mAh batteries
I wonder how good they'll do
Does anyone have any experience they'd like to share about shipping time from fasttech
I let it heat up for about 2 minutes. Just to experiment
Tapped in a full bowl with a light pack
Great hits.
4 great flavorful hits
5 good ending hits
Material was definitely brown not black this time with a few light green yellow specs
I gave it a very light draw at first and had the power on the whole session
Medium pulls towards the end
I took the cap off & packed it down like Robbo said
2 hard pulls and nice vapor
I bet ill get better results if I pull a little less hard next time and a fully charged battery
After the repack the abv was dark brown & light brown
More on the darkside
The cera LLC has given me the most satisfying hits out of a vape since I started Vaping 3 or 4 years ago
I really want the EO :-)
Thanks for the tips FC
I'm still waiting for my Sony US18650V3 2150mAh batteries
I wonder how good they'll do
Does anyone have any experience they'd like to share about shipping time from fasttech
Haywood
Onward Thru the Fog
Last order I had from fasttech took about a week or a week and a half, as I recall. Most China orders take a month, so the "fast" shipping this (and previous) orders from fasttech surprised me.
(I'm still spoiled by Amazon's shipping which is never more than two days for me, and I just got a webcam that was delivered 18 hours after I ordered it).
(I'm still spoiled by Amazon's shipping which is never more than two days for me, and I just got a webcam that was delivered 18 hours after I ordered it).
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
The last few draws of a sesh can be pretty fast I tend to start off slow and speed up during the draw. But there is a limit to how fast. I usually pull up short of it any way, though it is fun setting my friends up and watching thier eyes widen when they work out what is going on but its too late to do anything about it
Darb
Well-Known Member
I'd recommend the ceramic mp. It's much smoother than the 510 mp.
After trying so many techniques and toying around with this thing since February, I'm really coming to learn that original heat up time will make the difference in how this thing works. And, that heat up time will vary from various batteries, temperature of the device from a cold start (i.e. if it's left in a hot car warm up will be short), and the switch and or cart degrading. So don't mind the 20 or 30 second rule as that will change based on circumstances. Rather, go at it when you feel a good amount of warmth around the intake holes on the outside. If it's slightly warm, you'll get flavor on the first few hits with not a lot of vapor. If it's warm-hot, you will get bigger clouds right off the bat. So it's up to you on how to use it. But the longer the warm up, the easier it tends to be to use... especially for beginners.
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@Chill Dude
The ceramic mouthpiece is great. I prefer the smooth flow mouthpiece because i use my EO with my T1 glass adapter so my EO has thicker o-rings in it and its much easier to just switch between the smoothflow and GonG without having to take the o rings on and off all the time.
If i didnt have the GonG id mainly be using the ceramic mouthpiece. If you do choose the drip tip, id recommend the smoothflow because just the drip tip in the EO can melt
The ceramic mouthpiece is great. I prefer the smooth flow mouthpiece because i use my EO with my T1 glass adapter so my EO has thicker o-rings in it and its much easier to just switch between the smoothflow and GonG without having to take the o rings on and off all the time.
If i didnt have the GonG id mainly be using the ceramic mouthpiece. If you do choose the drip tip, id recommend the smoothflow because just the drip tip in the EO can melt
Sonics420
Well-Known Member
Would like to just check into this thread and let everyone know the Cera is working great, it did have the issues of being returned[2-3 times] when I first purchased it but now it seems like the hard workers at TET has everything figured out and working correctly. My Cera has been running strong for about 2-3 months now and I am really finally worry free about this vape.
The button doesnt bother me any more since I got used to it over time, I just cant wait for something smaller and lighter from TET.. for now the Cera gets me ripped and that EO cart is pure genius.. Easy to clean and just so efficient.
My gripes about this vape is still there but I've learned to live with it and take the Cera for what it is. If you use this exclusively with a water piece you don't need to worry about the heat..
Now I need to stop slackin and go get a smooth flow tip, the ceramic MP is great but if I didnt use it it would certainly shed some weight off the Cera.
The button doesnt bother me any more since I got used to it over time, I just cant wait for something smaller and lighter from TET.. for now the Cera gets me ripped and that EO cart is pure genius.. Easy to clean and just so efficient.
My gripes about this vape is still there but I've learned to live with it and take the Cera for what it is. If you use this exclusively with a water piece you don't need to worry about the heat..
Now I need to stop slackin and go get a smooth flow tip, the ceramic MP is great but if I didnt use it it would certainly shed some weight off the Cera.