Discontinued Thermovape Cera (Original thread, closed because of chaos)

[Dreamerr]

No they have not done water and LL yet. I bet we get that from jam or at least the one I want to see.
I am driving to your house q to try out oils and stuff K?
OF why don't you have an avatar...another protest against this new tech that you love so much and know a mess load about more then some of us?

I don't know about that avatar as smart as he is it doesn't fit him. We should have an OF avatar contest.

 

[J.D.420]

Just wondering what the minimum amount of plant material would be necessary/optimal for the LL model? I like to make a game out of using decreasingly smaller amounts of herbs possible while still getting sufficiently medicated. All my vaping experience has been with conduction style vapes and I've been able to get surprisingly well dosed using tiny amounts of good quality herb. Convection vapes are supposedly more efficient so we'll see. Obviously tolerance comes in to play but luckily for my lungs and wallet I'm a bit of a lightweight these days, not like back in college... hehe

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Bring chips and your Inh please

And...

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/unofficial-official-guess-ofs-avatar-thread.7847/

Just wondering what the minimum amount of plant material would be necessary/optimal for the LL model? I like to make a game out of using decreasingly smaller amounts of herbs possible while still getting sufficiently medicated. All my vaping experience has been with conduction style vapes and I've been able to get surprisingly well dosed using tiny amounts of good quality herb. Convection vapes are supposedly more efficient so we'll see. Obviously tolerance comes in to play but luckily for my lungs and wallet I'm a bit of a lightweight these days, not like back in college... hehe

I bet you can put flakes in there and it would vaporize thoroughly. The hot air passes through the holes, if a .2g bowl can be "spent" in 8 hits, it should have no problem doing less, provided it doesn't fall through the actual holes. Maybe you'll have to "pack" it down together or something. OF will have a more accurate answer for you whenever he gets around to it.

 

[Dreamerr]

OK packing the car now and da service dog and we will be there in a few hours with all vapes in hand...ok not in hand I do have to use them to drive ugh.

 

[OF]

OF why don't you have an avatar...another protest against this new tech that you love so much and know a mess load about more then some of us?

I don't know about that avatar as smart as he is it doesn't fit him. We should have an OF avatar contest.

Just not my style, I guess?

A while back G at Delta 9 made such a project, quite flattering in a way, but the end result didn't fit with my self image.....a robed judge with a huge gavel labeled "OF" 'laying down the law from above. I flatter myself as being a more whimsical provider of useful information to those who might benefit??

Not being as good looking as Pipes or Bob takes the portrait off the list....

FWIW the question mark does fit, sorta. I though about inverting it for fun, but how many really remember Blue Oyster Cult anyway?

I bet you can put flakes in there and it would vaporize thoroughly. The hot air passes through the holes, if a .2g bowl can be "spent" in 8 hits, it should have no problem doing less, provided it doesn't fall through the actual holes. Maybe you'll have to "pack" it down together or something. OF will have a more accurate answer for you whenever he gets around to it.

I tried some smaller loads, they work fine, but less dense as you'd think. You have to load more often too, of course. I think for casual use I like closer to .1 gram, FWIW. No packing needed.

OF

 

[Dreamerr]

Me and you know that go go gozilla. Maybe we can make you a fancy question mark...you are right it does fit you. Let's see what people come up with for fun. Maybe you will like something. I bet abodwen or something like that can make a kewl one. He certainly has the best sig on this site IMO.

 

[jambandphan03]

I'm WestCoast baby!! And i TRY to sleep for a bit each night. I am heading that way right now, get a few winks...

 

[Tweek]

Sleep? What is this mysterious thing you speak of?

 

[OF]

Maybe we can make you a fancy question mark...you are right it does fit you. Let's see what people come up with for fun.

I wouldn't put too much stock in that 'you were right stuff'....it happens sometimes, it'll pass.

I'm all in favor of fun, where ever you find it.

FWIW I considered using one of the true classics:
http://www.freaknet.org.uk/graphics01/g04/franklin/frank01.gif

Hard to argue with solid logic like that you know.......

OF

 

[Dreamerr]

something none of us need. Exterminator comes at 8:30, dogs have to go out at 7:30. I I haven't slept since I had to stop working cause I don't burn off all this energy. I hope to be able to burn it off somehow soon. Six years is enough of no sleeping. I have about a week every month or so where I will sleep for like two to three days but that is it. For all you men us woman that have had kids that doesn't help cause we never sleep the same again.

Yo Noah now that we totally derailed your thread where are da videos. I do need about three hours sleep so I am almost at that point that I am going to have to try real hard.

LOL OF but you won't be able to see it. This one guy on a thread I used to hang on a long time ago had that old melting brain/head one. I think I like that one for you. It was like a salvator dali pic.

 

[Tweek]

It's rumoured that Noah was found face down in a very foggy room.

 

[Dreamerr]

Tweek you need to stop making me laugh so hard. It isn't good for me...ok kidding it is great for me unless it hurts.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'm sure he was just sitting there too stoned to move, thinking "what have I done to myself" over and over while banging the Cera on the table, breaking it in half...

 

[OF]

LOL OF but you won't be able to see it. This one guy on a thread I used to hang on a long time ago had that old melting brain/head one. I think I like that one for you. It was like a salvator dali pic.

I think I know it, not sure it really fits me any more (if it ever did). I also considered:
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&...145&start=0&ndsp=36&ved=1t:429,r:27,s:0,i:172

But figured it'd be impossible to see?

OF

 

[Dreamerr]

Yep will be impossible.

I made two posts back to back tonight ugh punch drunk. One on the DV thread wasn't my fault your post was in between and when it posted it ended up back to back and had to rat myself out yet again.

Call that man up OF and see if he is putting up the vid...it is almost the point where I have no choice but to try 15 mins max then I gotta go but will be back soon hehe. Nah I don't turn the puter on in da morning that would really mess me up worse if that is possible.

 

[ThermoVape]

Video Shot. 0.1g WXY EO

Flat out, "direct inhales"

Then Glass

Short video, working on it know. Craigslist computer is a no go... so we are doing are best folks.

I think you guys will like the performance demonstration. We'll finish this video, and then I'll knock out any questions I can answer. If I could please request, if there are a large number of unanswered questions, and I miss something, it is unintentional, I get bombarded by a lot of email, etc. sometimes I miss is, not intended, I'll answer any question the best I can. Please do not take it personally.

I don't sleep much and it is pretty busy over here. Our ceramics guys were in today... full speed ahead. If someone wanted to compile a list, they could post it, email it to info@thermovape.com and I will run sown it and answer anything I can the best I can.

This should be up pretty soon...

Cheers,

Noah

 

[LeTchen]

Me too, I want to see video of the VG cart..... and the condom too (I tell this to my wife... she was screaming when I ordered the Cera yesterday, now she smiles and asks me when I will receive it )....... Okay I go out !!!

 

[PB88123]

If someone wanted to compile a list, they could post it, email it to info@thermovape.com and I will run down it and answer anything I can the best I can.

Couple questions in the last couple pages.

I'm just wondering in the last video you show each cera with there chambers and categorized in away that shows what kind of product goes into each device as it pans across to the essentail oil cera and shows the oils which are used also later on again each cera is set up on a platé with its specific product for that particular cera I think this would make for a awesome pamphlet or pictorial of the cera and there products and uses for each individual cera, it would be a awesome guide, simple,visual, informative cant really mess up pictures to guide you through the Cera LL,Cera EO, and what can be used in each specific unit the actual herb,oil,bho ect under each unit to clarify what your using and seeing and putting into your Cera units for the illiterate one who like it simple pictures tell the whole story lol

So... How many hits would a half gram of oil last you in the Cera? Using the unit very mildly, just to get very very light clouds. The dart EATS concentrate.

Also, question regarding the old line: was it just not profitable/possible/ideal for you guys to keep it going for a bit longer? I know/think the Cera line is a major improvement, but do you guys consider the first line (T1/Rev/etc) obsolete? I think the technology is still good, even with the Cera coming out. Might have an itching for a T1 that I've been trying not to scratch lately. I already have another vape for flower (MFLB) but it kinda broke and I haven't gotten around to using flower much since I got the DART (). I dunno, I just feel like adding a T1 to the bench for one of those "shit hits the fan" type of rare occurrences, maybe as a Christmas present for myself (they do wonders for the soul...) The feel and use I'm getting out of my Ultra is way way more than I expected, and I had high hopes. It just feels nice to use it, to hold it, take it apart and put it back together.

Another question, this time more relevant to the thread. At what point did you guys decide to make it all out of ceramic? Was it just like "hey, what if... what if instead of the core being ceramic... the whole thing!!" or was it a more logical move? If it was for medical reasons, why? We can sterilize the old lineup with hot water, you guys touted that, and it was definitely a plus for me. Is the ceramic you use just a much better improvement in that area as well?

Finally, how many "failed experiments/ideas" did you guys have between the old lineup and the Cera? Are you guys just continually on the drawing board until you get something you think will work really really well, or do you have a small collection of "progressions" from one to the other? IIRC, Magic Flight had some really interesting concept builds between the Launch Tube and the Launch Box, and even at one point mentioned that they were toying around with making some water pipes for their vape. Sorry if this one comes off as odd, I had my "oh, for the love of god" moment a few minutes ago at 23 hits. Maybe PM me if you don't want to address it publicly but want to tell me anyways?

Just wondering what the minimum amount of plant material would be necessary/optimal for the LL model? I like to make a game out of using decreasingly smaller amounts of herbs possible while still getting sufficiently medicated. All my vaping experience has been with conduction style vapes and I've been able to get surprisingly well dosed using tiny amounts of good quality herb. Convection vapes are supposedly more efficient so we'll see. Obviously tolerance comes in to play but luckily for my lungs and wallet I'm a bit of a lightweight these days, not like back in college... hehe

 

[smokum]

VG core demo vid STAT !!!

Considering its the basis of your efforts in this industry (your Mom), I find it both annoying AND frustrating that I and others have repeatedly asked for it and have not received it. PLEASE HELP TO SAVE MY LIFE - as I've been through 100's of ecigs since '07 and still battle smoking cessation.

It's great that there is a huge interest in the other cores that need further expansion on, but you've already done multiples of their use and ZERO for the last one..... which is a major decider for me to order all in one and only deal ONCE with cross border shopping and its perils, delays, and additional costs to select a device that appears to take care of ALL my needs in one hand held possible miracle.

I've also asked about the benefits of choosing Ti over SS without being answered. My question was to learn why, if any, it would benefit beyond weight reduction for the large $$ variance. If it's just a 'bling' thing... fine, state it as so please and save me some money.

It appears that even though I have been in this thread since it's onset, I am going to miss out on the initial released 1st run simply because my questions haven't been addressed. THIS is making me both an angry & sad panda...

 

[PDwasmy1st]

I have worked for the last decade in human medicine, new technology development, and co-inventing, co-developing, and manufacturing harm reduction devices to allow people more options, for the use of non-combustion vaporization, as an alternative to smoking.


I have a Medical Doctorate and I am a physician. I also have a Bachelor of Science Degree in Biochemistry, a Bachelor of Science Degree in Molecular and Cell Biology, and a Bachelor of Science Degree in Health Sciences/Pre-medical studies (although I still cannot type or spell).

My lifelong best friend and business partner is the other half of this effort, he is a Nuclear Engineer by training. Together we have multiple (>15) approved patents, and patents pending on vaporizer technology. We both have committed ourselves to the work of building vaporizers, and hoping we can play a role in helping people use vaporizers to never smoke again.

My mother died of lung cancer in 2007, she is the original inspiration for this effort. Her death, and my knowing how hard she tried to quit smoking, is the reason that I am building vaporizers, and not in a hospital taking care of patients. My personal goal is to build the vaporizer I wish I could of handed my mother, in time for her to have quit smoking, and lived.

Hope that is helpful.

Cheers,

Noah

Really sorry about your mum
I had to quit or face cancer they said, hope i still can avoid it, although my throat still hurts after 14 weeks without combustion.
I found it easy to give up using patches and my PD , wish i'd of done it a lot earlier , i am pretty sure your mum would have stopped with your invention, does it totally take the risk of cancer away im unsure i think say smoking is a 0% for instance then the best vaporizers can claim 95%? ive heard its 20-5% risk. (80% - 95%)

I feel safe with your company and your knowledge/background.

 

[ThermoVape]

VG core demo vid STAT !!!

Considering its the basis of your efforts in this industry (your Mom), I find it both annoying AND frustrating that I and others have repeatedly asked for it and have not received it. PLEASE HELP TO SAVE MY LIFE - as I've been through 100's of ecigs since '07 and still battle smoking cessation.

It's great that there is a huge interest in the other cores that need further expansion on, but you've already done multiples of their use and ZERO for the last one..... which is a major decider for me to order all in one and only deal ONCE with cross border shopping and its perils, delays, and additional costs to select a device that appears to take care of ALL my needs in one hand held possible miracle.

I've also asked about the benefits of choosing Ti over SS without being answered. My question was to learn why, if any, it would benefit beyond weight reduction for the large $$ variance. If it's just a 'bling' thing... fine, state it as so please and save me some money.

It appears that even though I have been in this thread since it's onset, I am going to miss out on the initial released 1st run simply because my questions haven't been addressed. THIS is making me both an angry & sad panda...

We have shot it. But we are operating on multiple borrowed cameras. it resulted in so many clips it crashed our computer. We bought a new/used computer for video editing yesterday, however it was a no go tonight when we tried to work on the Cera VG series.

We picked up a new camera and I will reshoot the entire e-cig video in a few hours if I have to. Shoe string budget here. Sometimes ewe get lucky and it comes together, sometime we have a bunch of clips from older DSLR and semi-crappy webcams to try and stitch together on budget macs. This results in hours of spinning colored progress wheels of pain and computers crashing. We do not even pay Anthony for the work. He has been working on a 6 minute video for the last 5-6 hours (the upload alone is painful... Silicon Valley... worst internet speeds). So you can imagine what a 3 part little series with 3 10 minute movies... the time just dissapears. Run into problems... miserable.

It has been shot, I want it up as bad as you. It is the primary device I use most. I'll shoot it again if needed. This was 30 minutes of footage, was going to 2-3 vid series covering all things Cera VG... we feel your pain.

New camera should help, we'll see what 189.99 buys these days. first test is the video uploading now.

I just sit in front of the camera and vape or talk, after that we are at the mercy of the digital gods... wish us luck.

If anyone has any complaints about our videos, please write them on a sticky note, attached to a top of the line video card for a 2007 mac Pro and send it to TET HQ, attn: Anthony. All complaints received in this matter will be responded to ASAP....

This short vid we shot is uploading.

Cheers,

Noah

 

[smokum]

Thanks Noah........

I have no doubts the endeavor is not an easy one. But, at this point I'd be happy to even see a short stint vid with VG core that shows a load and vape production.

I know you from ECF, where I'm a forum founder for Canadians & a mod, and have no issue on your reputation and efforts in your cause. However, as a consumer on a disability income... its not enough to throw the funds out frivolously anymore as I had in the past with ecigs (let alone vapes in general) regardless of your merit, and especially considering the sum of money we are talking about in your product.

Now please, as I wait for your demo vid I request, would you kindly comment on the latter part of my questions regarding the Ti vs SS selection/option.

TY

 

[PB88123]

I've also asked about the benefits of choosing Ti over SS without being answered. My question was to learn why, if any, it would benefit beyond weight reduction for the large $$ variance. If it's just a 'bling' thing... fine, state it as so please and save me some money.

It appears that even though I have been in this thread since it's onset, I am going to miss out on the initial released 1st run simply because my questions haven't been addressed. THIS is making me both an angry & sad panda...

Ti or SS . With Ti you get a lighter device that is more resistant to the elements of nature (water, humidity). If you have 2 Cera EO devices with 1 in Ti and 1 in SS and use them both you wouldn't be able to tell a performance difference. If you were to go SS to save money you won't be getting any less performance from the device.

Also this was taken from the web site.

In comparison to stainless steel, titanium is light and stronger with resistance to small space corrosion. Titanium is a good choice for those that are active and will be enjoying their Cera outside. If you enjoy being outdoors for hiking, camping or other excursions where the device may be subject to water exposure, increased wear and tear we definitely suggest considering opting for the titanium versus stainless. Both are extremely durable and long lasting materials. Either way, both are extremely high quality for use in a portable vaporizer application

@TV I don't know if you've ever thought about doing a live stream. You can be on camera and there can be a chat room so you can take requests live. You or someone watching can record it and put it up on youtube for all to watch at a later date. Call it a "live session / Q and A" the website I would pick is http://www.ustream.tv and just pick a time that works for you and people will come. You would have to use a program to record the video and audio or use another camera on site to record yourself.

 

[smokum]

TY PB....

As I vape mostly at home to not be tethered, your explanation offers me an opportunity to save quite a piece of change. Also considering I have had non issues with SS or even brushed aluminum ecigs used outdoors in all weather conditions over the years (only issues have been with the unreliable craptastic atomizers/tanks), SS should be fine in this device as well.

On the weight issue.... its a non issue really simply because I'm not a little person nor have a disability that makes having a device with some heft to it an issue.

*** however, you speak only of performance....... what about taste ?

Re the live stream idea....... THAT is an awesome idea for TV to consider ! & if I could double like a post, you would have got it

 

[Nick Again]

With all the excitement and concomitant sleep deprivation, it seems someone forgot something and the TV web site now says:

"This account has expired. If you are the site owner, click below to login."
Makes watching the show a little harder.

-NDA