Discontinued Thermovape Cera (Original thread, closed because of chaos)

[Futuretvowner]

@Tim, I'm going to assume that you guys will still be honoring past contest prize winnings for future purchases?

 

[goodgreenganja]

Is there a reason there are two switches? It seems like that would cause more confusion than anything. Hit the switch on the bottom then when the top switch is green it's on, hit the bottom switch again and it's still showing green, but it's off. And vice versa. Unless you stick to one switch it'll get confusing. At first I was wondering why the bottom piece was so thick, but then I read that it's a switch. Personally, all I need is one on/off switch. Leave the top switch and shave a quarter inch off the length by putting a non-switch cap on the bottom. Unless I'm completely missing something here.

 

[jpdnkstr]

I would love to have the "Pimp Edition" Cera as well! OTOH I simply cannot justify the price diff.

 

[havealight101]

Hey Tim, a couple questions.
Are AW IMR's not recommended? Why 2c restriction?
When you mention that your airflow controls the type of vapor, does that mean the harder you pull the lower the vaping temp? Or visa-versa? Can you click it on and pull one monster pull with in 30seconds and then shut her(Sarah)down, and it won't bake the botanicals to much on cool down? And finally, what would the average load be, .15-.25?
Thank you.

I guess this one got missed?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

as well as difference in heat-up times between titanium and steel, if any? been asked at least 2x now

 

[escierdanyc]

I'm definitely getting this to compliment the DV. I might have to wait a bit though since $300 is a whole lot to ask for. Can any past TV owners confirm how long each bowl lasts? I feel like I can get 5 sessions out of one full bowl on the DV.

 

[PB88123]

I'm definitely getting this to compliment the DV. I might have to wait a bit though since $300 is a whole lot to ask for. Can any past TV owners confirm how long each bowl lasts? I feel like I can get 5 sessions out of one full bowl on the DV.

How long a bowl lasts or "sessions" depends on quality of herb, how many hits during a session and how long you inhale and how much you put in. One could turn it on and take 2-3 hits and turn it off and do that 4-6 times before the bowl is spent. I could also turn it on and take 4-5 hits and get 2 maybe 3 sessions before having to reload.

Is there a reason there are two switches? It seems like that would cause more confusion than anything. Hit the switch on the bottom then when the top switch is green it's on, hit the bottom switch again and it's still showing green, but it's off. And vice versa. Unless you stick to one switch it'll get confusing. At first I was wondering why the bottom piece was so thick, but then I read that it's a switch. Personally, all I need is one on/off switch. Leave the top switch and shave a quarter inch off the length by putting a non-switch cap on the bottom. Unless I'm completely missing something here.

I think having 2 ways is to prevent the device from being turned on accidentally. If you just have the top switch you may roll, bump into something that causes the top switch to move to the on position yet the device won't turn on unless the bottom one is on. If you leave the bottom button always on then you should be able to just use the top switch to turn the device on and off. More options for people to decide how to turn on and off the device with safety measures for those who want it.

When you mention that your airflow controls the type of vapor, does that mean the harder you pull the lower the vaping temp? Or visa-versa? Can you click it on and pull one monster pull with in 30seconds and then shut her(Sarah)down, and it won't bake the botanicals to much on cool down? And finally, what would the average load be, .15-.25?
Thank you.

The bowl is a tad bit smaller then the t1 (20% I read) so I would think you can stuff .10 into it.
The quicker you inhale the more air will come in / get warmed up and move vapor into you. If you're not careful it'll hit you hard and you may cough.
Still waiting to hear how long the warm up period is. Once it is warm you can take a big 30 second inhale and turn it off.

 

[Tweek]

Small capacity was one of my big issues with the T1. Vapor production aside
I just did'nt feel like I was getting enough per bowl.

 

[pakalolo]

I think having 2 ways is to prevent the device from being turned on accidentally. If you just have the top switch you may roll, bump into something that causes the top switch to move to the on position yet the device won't turn on unless the bottom one is on. If you leave the bottom button always on then you should be able to just use the top switch to turn the device on and off. More options for people to decide how to turn on and off the device with safety measures for those who want it.

If you have two switches to prevent accidentally turning it on, then leaving one of them always on defeats the purpose. I'd like to hear Thermovape's explanation of why the Cera has two switches. If it's been posted then I missed it.

 

[PB88123]

If you have two switches to prevent accidentally turning it on, then leaving one of them always on defeats the purpose. I'd like to hear Thermovape's explanation of why the Cera has two switches. If it's been posted then I missed it.

Hopefully @ThermoCoreTim can comment but in the meantime here is what's on their web site (not sure if you already read this)

Cera generation devices are extremely easy to activate: a simple push of the “switch” located on the bottom of the device activates the Cera. There is no need to hold the button on, all you need to do is simply push to turn on the Cera, enjoy vaping, and then push the button to return the Cera to the “off” position. We have also included a second safety switch on the side of the device, ensuring ultimate safety and security for storage and travel. The side safety switch on the Cera can be toggled on and off for use as an alternative means of activating the Cera. Neither of these switches require any constant force to keep them in the “on” position. Cera devices are also available with an optional illuminated switch, which allow you to visually verify whether the device is on or off.

From http://thermovape.com/blogs/news/6854554-the-cera-has-arrived

 

[Tweek]

I believe I read that the switch is some sort of safety switch...makes it look like a lamp part to me though...

 

[jambandphan03]

Wishing I could join in on the pre-sale fun... I want to, but have to restrain myself... wish this economy would pick up so I can play! Come on!!

looking forward to some videos

 

[UpUpandAway]

We made the bowl approximately 20% smaller, this was due to the large number of suggestions by all of you our customers. We took a tremendous amount of your suggestions and addressed them to improve on the Cera, nearly everything about her is due to the suggestions of our loyal FC followers!

Small capacity was one of my big issues with the T1. Vapor production aside
I just did'nt feel like I was getting enough per bowl.

Yeah, I was hoping that the new bowl would be larger than the T1's bowl.

What advantages does a smaller bowl offer? (Not a rhetorical question; I'm genuinely curious as to why people requested this.)

 

[OF]

What advantages does a smaller bowl offer? (Not a rhetorical question; I'm genuinely curious as to why people requested this.)

Faster response and lower power requirements for openers. In theory heating up any herb you don't actually vape (allow to cool again) is a straight out loser. Likewise, heating the ABV up again for the next hit makes you wait longer and pay more (battery life wise) for the vapor you get.

This is one of the reasons stem vapes can be so efficient. They work a tiny load to death quickly (a few hits) then you put it in the duff can rather than heat it over and over. Reloading gets old fast of course, a compromise is called for.....that means almost everyone wanted a bigger or smaller compromise I guess?

OF

 

[UpUpandAway]

Faster response and lower power requirements for openers. In theory heating up any herb you don't actually vape (allow to cool again) is a straight out loser. Likewise, heating the ABV up again for the next hit makes you wait longer and pay more (battery life wise) for the vapor you get.

This is one of the reasons stem vapes can be so efficient. They work a tiny load to death quickly (a few hits) then you put it in the duff can rather than heat it over and over. Reloading gets old fast of course, a compromise is called for.....that means almost everyone wanted a bigger or smaller compromise I guess?

OF

Cool, thanks OF. That makes sense.

 

[Darb]

Any pics of the oil chamber yet ThermCoreTim?

 

[Egzoset]

Indeed, please the chamber! The one where everything that really matters actually happens!!

If you see what i mean...

 

[OF]

Cool, thanks OF. That makes sense.

Yer welcome. My take is understanding the fine points lets us make better buying decisions and get more from the gear we do buy. What's the old joke about chicken soup for a cold? "Can't hurt, might help"?

Sometimes it's just part of the fun, of course.

OF

 

[Futuretvowner]

I feel like its safe to make the assumption that continuous heat will lead to much easier hits.

 

[Tweek]

Continuous power/heat is a big bonus. The slider on the T1 was a pain in the neck...

 

[Pipes]

I think the "leave on" is great. What will end up happening is 1 load will be broken down to 3-4 mini sessions. Like 3-4 hits each. I can't see leaving it on for over 30 seconds or more between hits or doing hits very close for the full load duration. Well then again...
I'm using a switchless device which is turned off by physically pulling the power cable. That's how I ended up using it. Like it as holding a button in or slider up is a pain.

Pipes

Continuous power/heat is a big bonus. The slider on the T1 was a pain in the neck...

 

[Cheerful Dub]

Theres no real need to have a second mouthpiece, although a whip down switching back and forth might be nice.

The cores only come with the chamber itself, no mouthpiece or top-cap. The top-caps will be available in the future by them selfs but for the time being just the mouthpiece

Appreciate the information, thank you for taking the time to respond, although I'm not sure I understand the whip reference.

Theres a limited run for the pres-sale, make sure you reserve one before they are all gone!

It is only appropriate I invest in TET yet again, thank you for allowing me to do so, upon reflection the delay allowed me to add more to the order I would have spaced on initially. The TI option was a little steep for my blood considering everything I was looking for, but I do appreciate the offering and will consider it as an upgrade path if I ever gift this kit in the future.

Cera Essential Oil SS, Liquid Core SS, 2 Chargers, 3 batteries, 1 illuminated switch =
TET V2 = Priceless

 

[jambandphan03]

So would the Orbtronic 3100mah protected rechargeable Lion 18650 work for the Cera?

 

[Tweek]

Does this unit have a light to indicate when the chamber has reached optimal temp? I always thought that would be handy to have on the T1...

 

[Egzoset]

It's the same in this newer version, right?