Discontinued The Venus Apollo

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
Also, try to let it heat up for about 5 min before throwing the load into the Apollo. Either turn it off and then back on again after the first heat up period - or put it on setting 10 for a few more minutes after the first heatup (or change the default heating time).

Then drop the temp from anywhere between 4-6 and let it stabilize a little (either wait or start using it and the temperature will decline on its own as it is used) there should be plenty of vapour production at this point and as the temp drops to level 4-6 then as the vapour production declines you will have to boost 5-15 before your draw (and continue boosting through your draw).

Woa 5+ minutes pre-heat to get good vapor??! That's worse than the slowest of my conduction portables. Even my uderpowered FW2.1 is quicker to heat. That sounds super power-inefficient no?

With that long of a pre-heat I imagine you are forced to do a session, you can't just get a few hits then put it aside?

How many bowls are you getting per charge already?

I got to admit my appeal toward this vape has been slowly fading away lately...

PS: and nobody ordered a 50W bulb to test yet? Come on guys, let's have some fun testing!
 

GTAVaper

Well-Known Member
The 2 to 3 min preheat works and vapour production is still definitely great.

But I find that the best vapour production..... where you can milk the bubbler faster and with better tasting vapour than anything else but the Supreme (a flame powered vape) could produce is better produced after the Apollo has been on for a little while and the available thermal mass has been heat soaked fully.

This is where the back plate of the unit becomes too hot to touch. If you start vaping at around the 2-3min mark ......and then turn it down and only boost when vaping during your session then the body heat will build up more slowly.

But I prefer the best performance possible and letting it heat up for longer. I can't really say how many bowls you could vape.....because it is less bowl oriented and more time dependent. You can extract bowls very quickly......or take more time with them. So if you keep it on and keep feeding it bowl after bowl for a large group of people then it will be whatever number of bowls that you can run through it for the hour that it is on - or probably less with higher power levels being used to finish each bowl.

Perhaps with more continual boosting the "on-time" would decrease more than I am guessing? I don't know what the total on-time would be for 100% continuous power .....because no one would vape like that unless they were trying to feed a group of 10-20 people - just guessing of course. Each bowl (full Solo bowl) is definitely good for 2 people .....and perhaps even 3.

I would have to agree that this is a session style vape in the original configuration even with the mods.

I haven't found a 50w bulb that runs on 6v yet (I don't think they exist) and the next most powerful would be 35W which would probably be best with the existing lower power mapping.

The advantage of the higher wattage bulb would be solely in heat up time as well as a shortened boost period. With a 35w bulb I would hope to be able to heat up in less than a minute to get to tempt (perhaps 90s to 2 min for full heat soak) and then short 3-7 sec boosts before drawing. This is of course just a guess right now.

I would be looking to try out a higher 35W bulb but I am still waiting to hear back from Ville as to the pin sizes that will fit. I think the 2nd gen bulb is a G5.3 and perhaps even a G6.35 pin bulb might fit in the socket since as a result of my research I found a bulb socket that accepts G4 to G6.35 ......but don't know what is actually in the Apollo and what bulbs it can handle. I believe that the G5.3 and G6.35 also have a larger bulb than the G4 bulbs (but not 100% certain) which is why I think the 2nd/3rd generation 20W Apollo bulb may be the G5.3 pin .....because when I grab a spare and measure it it looks like the pins are bent slightly inwards.

So unless results from another more high powered bulb demonstrate otherwise ......I think the best use for this vape is as a session vape......which is also how most portable electronic vapes are being used right now - aside from the most recent on-demand convection units (FF2, GH, and RBT vapes)

It still performs better than a Mighty.....which is still the "Holy Grail" of vapes for a lot of people......but since the body gets very hot it is less amenable to being used "om-the-go"
 
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KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic

GTAVaper

Well-Known Member
I'm not a bulb expert.....but the one common theme that I found with 6v halogen bulbs was that the life expectancy dropped with high W bulbs......at least in the 6v range.

In the 6 volt range it appears that there is a seller with 35w long life (2000hrs) discontinued bulbs are on the market that is a G4 bulb. But they didn't tell me the bulb model when asked - so I don't know if they are legit or just not understanding the question in their native language.

Otherwise the other ratings that I'm seeing for 6v 30w and 35w bulbs are for about 100 & 50 hrs (respectively) for the G4 bulbs I've seen on the market .....which are typically used as microscope light bulbs for medical equipment.

It seems like 12v is the best (and most common) bulb for 50W bulbs that have a long lifespan.

I honestly wouldn't use this vaporizer dry ......but then I would say that for all my vapes - just because I only vape at home and there is always a water piece handy.

But if I were to vape dry with any of my vapes then it would be either through a long whip on the EQ or by using the Mighty. The Apollo, Underdog, and Supreme are all best for usage with a bubbler.....although I'm sure that a lot of people have also enjoyed these units dry .....but that's not my preference.

With a longer whip attachment I suppose that the Apollo might be alright to use dry......I had meant to try that out but just haven't got around to it yet.
 
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villekille2

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Manufacturer
it accepts G4, G5.3 and G6.35. Just need to make sure that the big 6.35 bulbs are not the longer variant, there are G6.35 bulbs which are longer and also bulbs with similar length as G5.3 bulbs.

for example this looks like it could fit
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/GREA..._1&btsid=ec088af3-e94e-4c97-bcc8-1b73ab434660

Apollo is using bulbs a little bit overdriven, 35W bulbs would probably be near 40W during warm up.
 

GTAVaper

Well-Known Member
I believe that I may have found a 6v 50W halogen bulb that is 42mm long (including pins). I still need confirmation from the seller if it is G6.35 or less then I will purchase some to try out and will report back when I do.

So maybe in a few weeks I will have more news on how either this bulb or a 35W bulb works with the Apollo. I am guessing that with the stock set up that you wouldn't want to put in the herb chamber until the unit has heated up (although the heat up would be much quicker) since I believe that with the power mapping that even if you have the lower power mapping selected (55% max setting) that the heat up still takes place at 100% power.

The minimum boost would also be at 85% .....so with a 50W bulb I am thinking that only very short presses of the boost would work - otherwise combustion might just be too easy?

Perhaps if the 35W or 50W bulb is promising in its usage then hopefully it would not be too difficult to have the warmup power level and boost levels changed for better usage.

But this may be a lot more difficult than I am thinking, because for the stock bulb the current regular power mapping seems to work very well for providing good vaping temps.

It seems that much fun experimentation :science::ko: has probably gone into dialing in this range already.
 

GTAVaper

Well-Known Member
Found both 50w and 35w in 6v G6.35 T3.25; (10.2mm x 39mm; Diam x L) 2000hr rated bulbs that fit - both from the same supplier......and they ship from the USA but there is no USPS shipping available for international orders.

Bulbs are $2 USD each - I was thinking of getting 5 of each since they are so cheap but shipping to Canada is $33 USD for the cheapest non-USPS shipping option - for $20 worth of bulbs :o :(

If there is anyone in the USA that wants to experiment with and try these bulbs too the supplier said that it would be about $8 USPS shipping within the USA (he used Michigan as an example delivery destination).

If you are interested in trying higher W bulbs with your Apollo and would be willing to forward my portion of a shipment onward to Toronto, Canada via USPS ......then please PM me.
 
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Copacetic

Somewhere North of The Wall
Found both 50w and 35w in 6v G6.35 T3.25; (10.2mm x 39mm; Diam x L) 2000hr rated bulbs that fit - both from the same supplier......and they ship from the USA but there is no USPS shipping available for international orders.

Bulbs are $2 USD each - I was thinking of getting 5 of each since they are so cheap but shipping to Canada is $33 USD for the cheapest non-USPS shipping option - for $20 worth of bulbs :o :(

If there is anyone in the USA that wants to experiment with and try these bulbs too the supplier said that it would be about $8 USPS shipping within the USA (he used Michigan as an example delivery destination).

If you are interested in trying higher W bulbs with your Apollo and would be willing to forward my portion of a shipment onward to Toronto, Canada via USPS ......then please PM me.
Or if you can't find anyone who can help, try Shipito.
Dont know if it'll work out cheap enough to make it worthwhile, but prices seem reasonable.
e.g. 1lb package from US>UK -$2

https://www.shipito.com/?utm_source...RUEYZOUHfTAug2INbKkZIw3kMSK0BpqVp8aAsVl8P8HAQ

Sorry about the huge link, I'm on my cellphone.

I haven't tried them out yet myself, but I've read quite a few positive experiences.
 
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AtomicPB

Well-Known Member
I am still owing FC my report of the experiences with the Apollo, but I am extremely swamped with work the last couple of weeks. I hope that I can find the time to post my experiences soon.

If I am not completly wrong the Aromed Bulb should fit the Apollo as well. There is a store I found here in Europe who sells Osram Bulbs for the Aromed.

http://verdampftnochmal.de/products...aromed-uv-free-replacement-lamp-by-osram.html

From what I can see and read here regarding the parameters that have to be fullfilled it should fit. And since it is a standard Osram Bulb it might easily availlable in Canada as well.

I hope I checked it correctly and that the Information turns out to be of some use.
 
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GTAVaper

Well-Known Member
I am still owing FC my report of the experiences with the Apollo, but I am extremely swamped with work the last couple of weeks. I hope that I can find the time to post my experiences soon.

If I am not completly wrong the Aromed Bulb should fit the Apollo as well. There is a store I found here in Europe who sells Osram Bulbs for the Aromed.

http://verdampftnochmal.de/products...aromed-uv-free-replacement-lamp-by-osram.html

From what I can see and read here regarding the parameters that have to be fullfilled it should fit. And since it is a standard Osram Bulb it might easily availlable in Canada as well.

I hope I checked it correctly and that the Information turns out to be of some use.

I think that the Aromed bulbs are the right sized bulb in that they will fit properly........ but are unfortunately a 12v bulb.

But thank you for trying to help out with your suggestion
 
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PPN

Volute of Vapor
The Apollo finally arrived after + 1 month surface shipping, it's a second hand unit.

Took me some times to understand how to use it , I loaded it with some GSC (scissors grind) and power it on, after the initial 2mn15 factory wamup preset I get a nice cloud for the first hit, as well for the next hits but quickly (after 8-10 hits) vapor production decreases. I think it extracts goodies really fast but not totally, I didn't noticed a big difference using the boost.

Vapor is very hot on the lips, clouds are not very thick, taste is very good and airflow is unlimited (but the vaporizer might be better with a more restrictive airflow).

The Apollo uses exactly the same loading chamber than its big brother , the Venus.

Wasn't able to milk a bubbler at all,was very excited after the first session....a bit mitiged after more use....
 

GTAVaper

Well-Known Member
Read through the posts (pgs 35-37) and watch the videos on page 35 for modding information that will allow you to milk a glass bubbler with ease and to help you get the most out of your Apollo

The boost button needs to be held for a longer time if your temps are set at lower power. You might also want to adjust it to 115% power and ensure that you're in the normal power band mappings rather than the alternative power settings

If you only have the short mouthpiece tube then the Solo stem mod is still possible by using an Arizer Air stem....I have built one and will post pictures of it later when not on mobile

This vaporizer is capable of performing like an Underdog using a regular sized Nong in producing equivalent density of vapor.....except with better taste and greater load capacity when modded properly

I would also recommend that you increase the warm up time to 3min 30 secs for best immediate performance and to not insert your herb chamber until after the Apollo has heated up
 
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PPN

Volute of Vapor
Do you know if the Venus Original bulbs works in the Apollo? (mine comes without replacements bulbs.... but it's a 2nd hand unit)

It's a bit strange but sometimes I get a great session with full extraction even without the boost and soùmetimes i get weak hits and uneven extraction....I think it's coming from a bad seal somewhere.

All in all it's a better experience than my previous with the original venus.
 

vapognak

Well-Known Member
Do you know if the Venus Original bulbs works in the Apollo? (mine comes without replacements bulbs.... but it's a 2nd hand unit)

It's a bit strange but sometimes I get a great session with full extraction even without the boost and soùmetimes i get weak hits and uneven extraction....I think it's coming from a bad seal somewhere.

All in all it's a better experience than my previous with the original venus.
maybe I'm telling you a connerie, but I've also been experiencing some disappointing sessions, and I think that I had bad results when I was grinding too much and if I was not holding the unit straight (material not being at the center of the chamber) => not grind too finely and avoiding to laid horizontally the unit could produce better results.
 

Melting Pot

Sick & Twisted
Im still using with nano stem mod.
Been out of flower for a bit but back at mission Apollo.
Working on heat and boost & distance from bulb but getting great results.
Some hotspots and charing.
More testing
Gonna cover air intake like ville suggested with a piece of aluminum can under screen pics when done
 

GTAVaper

Well-Known Member
@vapognak
Covering the back intake and filling the herb chamber at a minimum of half full and also tamping it a bit (so that it doesn't move around and open up a spot for unimpeded airflow) is crucial for performance when using the Apollo with a stock herb chamber.

But the magic doesn't happen until you are using a Solo/Air stem mod.

Also ensure a decent seal where chamber bottom meets heater cover by giving the tube a slight twist as you push the tube against the top of the stock chamber to help seat the bottom of the chamber.

Stem mod is necessary to achieve densest vapour as it greatly helps restrict and slow down the draw as well as form a narrower bowl.
 
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Vape Dr.

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Hello all!:wave:

Well first things first. I had to mod my Apollo before I used it.

While I was waiting for the batteries to charge I made a chamber cover using some 1" surgical silicone tubing. I know this part will get very hot and as a precaution came up with this real quick.



With a little trimming I was able to get a pretty nice fit over the open chamber.


I am sooo happy I did this mod because as soon as I grab it the thenar or purlicue (webbing between finger and thumb whatever you want to call it) sits right smack in the chamber groove.



So, I guess you are left handed Ville! :hmm: Dam you!

It would be great to have the chamber on the other side, or rather put the control panel on the other side. Since 90% of all people are right handed, I'm sure most people would love to see this on the next version IMHO.:)

The silicone cover works well enough until I figure something better out, you are able to use the silicone cover to take out the hot herb chamber which is also nice.

First use I was absolutely blown away!!!:ko:

I can see why people compare this to a portable Sublimator, the High you get from the Apollo is on another level, and the taste...:p...amazing!
Even at the stock default 40% temperature the Apollo is amazing!

There's nothing quite like hearing the oils in your herb sizzle and pop!:D

Great job @villekille2!:rockon:

Although I've only ran through a few chambers so far I'm lovin it and the effects are insane!:razz:
 

vapen00b

Many vapes & accessories. Always happy to help
Hello all!:wave:

Well first things first. I had to mod my Apollo before I used it.

While I was waiting for the batteries to charge I made a chamber cover using some 1" surgical silicone tubing. I know this part will get very hot and as a precaution came up with this real quick.



With a little trimming I was able to get a pretty nice fit over the open chamber.


I am sooo happy I did this mod because as soon as I grab it the thenar or purlicue (webbing between finger and thumb whatever you want to call it) sits right smack in the chamber groove.



So, I guess you are left handed Ville! :hmm: Dam you!

It would be great to have the chamber on the other side, or rather put the control panel on the other side. Since 90% of all people are right handed, I'm sure most people would love to see this on the next version IMHO.:)

The silicone cover works well enough until I figure something better out, you are able to use the silicone cover to take out the hot herb chamber which is also nice.

First use I was absolutely blown away!!!:ko:

I can see why people compare this to a portable Sublimator, the High you get from the Apollo is on another level, and the taste...:p...amazing!
Even at the stock default 40% temperature the Apollo is amazing!

There's nothing quite like hearing the oils in your herb sizzle and pop!:D

Great job @villekille2!:rockon:

Although I've only ran through a few chambers so far I'm lovin it and the effects are insane!:razz:


Great post, doc! Glad you're liking it. It confirms my initial experience: it blew me straight outta co...ckpit :D - even though I'd only micro loaded it to play around. This deep heating radiation powered by halogen really lasers thru the load and punches you into the orbit.:borg::whoa:
Enjoy the view - but come back soon! :argh:
Can't wait for your next mod ideas as well as feedback for further improvements. :science:
Great place over here. Thanks for everyone contributing! :rockon::clap:
 

GTAVaper

Well-Known Member
Hello all!:wave:

Well first things first. I had to mod my Apollo before I used it.

While I was waiting for the batteries to charge I made a chamber cover using some 1" surgical silicone tubing. I know this part will get very hot and as a precaution came up with this real quick.



With a little trimming I was able to get a pretty nice fit over the open chamber.


I am sooo happy I did this mod because as soon as I grab it the thenar or purlicue (webbing between finger and thumb whatever you want to call it) sits right smack in the chamber groove.



So, I guess you are left handed Ville! :hmm: Dam you!

It would be great to have the chamber on the other side, or rather put the control panel on the other side. Since 90% of all people are right handed, I'm sure most people would love to see this on the next version IMHO.:)

The silicone cover works well enough until I figure something better out, you are able to use the silicone cover to take out the hot herb chamber which is also nice.

First use I was absolutely blown away!!!:ko:

I can see why people compare this to a portable Sublimator, the High you get from the Apollo is on another level, and the taste...:p...amazing!
Even at the stock default 40% temperature the Apollo is amazing!

There's nothing quite like hearing the oils in your herb sizzle and pop!:D

Great job @villekille2!:rockon:

Although I've only ran through a few chambers so far I'm lovin it and the effects are insane!:razz:

@Vape Dr.
Nice to see that others are benefiting from utilizing my Apollo hot chamber burn protection mods!
(Pg 37, Post 925) :D

I found that slicing the tubing lengthwise down the center actually is the better solution than the silicone breech plug since it still allows for better airflow through the chamber area ......which is helpful after you've blocked the bottom air intake since this is where all the airflow originates from.

Also with the bottom blocked and the breech blocked the Apollo actually gets hotter than it needs to for optimum performance - especially when both the breech plug and full silicone side sleeve is used at the same time (again, see Post 925)

Also since your first Apollo touchdown picture shows that you only have the short glass tube, I would highly :brow: :D recommend that you mod an Arizer Air stem as my pics within that same post will show that I've done for the longer Solo stem. I have also done an Air stem mod too (as well as @Nssl who has also posted in the past - hope I am crediting the right FC'er) but haven't yet posted pictures of it yet. Although I haven't done the male joint on the other end since I sit the Apollo tube straight on top of an 19mm male end. Since you have a Milaana, you might already have an 19M-19M adapter and can use this to connect it to a water piece. I use a little joint wax on the 19mm male joint that the Apollo tube sits around to help provide a vapour tight seal.

One additional mod that I've done but haven't shown yet, but which is easy to describe, is to use white teflon plumber's tape that is wound overtop the silicone piece located at the Solo/Air stem bowl end to enlarge the diameter of the silicone wrapped around the bowl end so that it seals better when placed into the bottom of the herb chamber......basically keep winding the teflon tape around until it fits tightly within the bottom of the stock herb chamber - just twist and pull at the same time to remove it.

Another mod that I thought of that you can try and report back on - since you have Milaana glass stems (mine still hasn't arrived yet :( ) is to try using an 19mm Milaana stem inserted into the bottom of the Apollo tube which would then sleeve into the bottom of the herb chamber (Arizer Solo core o-ring (located above the 19mm male joint and before the Apollo tube for a sealing point), also silicone and/or teflon tape may help to achieve that crucial seal - not sure since I don't have any 19mm glass to try this out with yet).

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Also, I am thinking that if the Milaana stems work well in the fashion indicated above then an Arizer Extreme elbow bowl-screen at the end of the Milaana 19mm male joint would work very well as both the bowl and screen in such a configuration.


I am assuming that the tube will still be able to be inserted into the Apollo from the top since the 19mm glass joint should hopefully still fit within the 22mm hole that the Apollo glass tube slots through.

Once you start playing with glass stem mods, the longer lengthwise slit silicone tubing will make much more sense to you than it might at first since you will always load and unload the Apollo through the top of the unit (rather than through the side breech) - while inverted, by basically pulling it out of/or inserting it into the (now) bottom of the Apollo.

Also. remember to to periodically drop some mineral oil onto the threads of the battery cap which will make a huge difference in removing the battery cap. I don't know if I mentioned this but Ville had mentioned to me that he was considering increasing the height of the battery cap by up to 3mm (basically double it's current height) - which should greatly assist those with arthritis or other medical issues in removing the cap.

I am glad to hear that you are enjoying the Apollo. I certainly have really enjoyed my Apollo - this vape along with the Supreme v3 (a completely different niche vape) are my favourites for both extraction and flavour. But you won't see the Apollo used to its maximum potential until you perform a Solo/Air stem mod.

Also, my initial pet peeve of the Apollo getting very hot is actually a bonus since it really helps maintain the thermal mass of the unit - but you will find that this isn't a vape that you can shut down and just throw in a pocket right away - it will be too hot.

But with respect to a portable non-plugin home vape used through water it is pretty much peerless. When modded correctly - it can perform like an Underdog log vape through the regular sized nongs with respect to having a high vapour density but still maintain better flavour through it very thorough extraction since you can fine tune the heat source better and temperature step until you've extracted everything.

The ONLY vape that I've used that can surpass this vape in quality of vapour and extraction performance from the vapes that I've used is the Supreme V3 (see signature for the vapes that I am comparing too) - which is not really a true competitor to the Apollo since a heavy duty torch (Blazer Big Shot, propane/MAP torch) is required and many people just won't entertain the idea of a torch based vape. If I had to choose and was limited to just one vape to keep - it would be the Apollo. But if I had the option of choosing two vapes to hold onto .....it would be the Apollo and the Supreme V3.

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P.S. The chamber is located on the correct side when you hold the vape upside down as it would be used on top of a water bubbler.

But if you prefer the upright orientation, and to use the Apollo without a water bubbler, then another mod that I've thought of - but haven't got around to yet - is to use a nested silicone whip, (3/4" OD, 1/2" ID) with the tubing connected to the end of the stock Apollo tube with 1/2" OD silicone tubing inserted into this and ending with glass mouthpiece at the end of this tubing.

I really enjoy using the Apollo through water so I have been basically too lazy to try this yet. But this mod might maintain even better flavour and tame the vapour heat enough that the Apollo could be used comfortably without water.


OK..... got off my lazy ass and am posting some pics of my Air stem mod as well as a whip mod and Source Orb micro-bubbler mod (the idea I posted in an earlier post.

Arizer Air stem mod

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Whip & Micro-bubbler

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In this pic you can see that I added some teflon tape so that I could get a seal on the inner diameter of the Apollo tube

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OK.....that's enough :science::science::science: for tonight :lol: :D

Edit: Oooops sorry, I lied :o , I'm back :D

Just thought that I'd share one more pic of the combo Air stem/Whip mod all put together as I thought that it came together very nicely :)

@Vape Dr. really inspired me with his arrival in the Apollo thread. I've really enjoyed some of his posts and he has been a great contributor on FC in a lot of threads that I've followed.

So I thought that if @Vape Dr. has already posted and shared info in this thread within hours of charging up his Apollo batteries and firing it up ......that I should get off my lazy butt and finally get around to building this Air Stem/Whip combo that I've envisioned for a while.

I am not much of a whip user these days - that was mostly used in the early days of the Extreme before I decided to hook it up to a water piece one day :tup: :clap: :love:

Yes, vapour, for me, is most definitely enjoyed most through water. That way I can get feedback through the visual aspect of the vapour flow as well as rip as hard as I like and not get a sore throat on hot vapour.

The setup indeed works well! Much cooler on the throat :clap:

I think that I will save the micro bubbler mod for another night. Hopefully, I don't short out the light bulb or electronic controls by spilling on the heater. I think the electronic controls would be OK because they are higher up .....unless a short itself killed them. But the halogen heater exterior is quartz so it should be able to withstand a sudden temperature change if water hit it while it was on.

Hopefully, I will never find out :uhoh: :D

Anyways......here it is :)

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But as for the performance? It kind of feels like a far tastier Mighty, but with even less draw resistance ......and a far better feeling mouthpiece with the glass bulb.

Actually the only thing that made me initially relate it to a Mighty is because that was the easiest drawing portable vape that I used to have. But with the whip setup, the added restriction brings the draw restriction to a point where even though it is still far more free flowing than the Mighty - it at least is still in that zone where you feel a little resistance which can allow you to more easily feel the vapour flow.

This is where the whip use didn't impress me - not because of the quality of vapour (which was very tasty) but because I couldn't actually see its density, or fill a chamber to help in gauging the volume of vapour that is taken in the draw.

Those who like direct draw and direct draw whip vapes might like this mod :nod:

But the potential mod that I think might really kick some ass would be the stem/bowl mod that I mentioned before.

This would be to use the 19mm US RBT glass stems as the bowl/stem combo that would then insert into an Apollo tube with a Solo core o-ring helping to seal between the flare of the male end where it enters the stock Apollo tubing. The longer Apollo tube would probably be better for this.....unless the Milaana short stem fits into the shorter Apollo tube.

An Arizer Extreme elbow screen could be set into the end of the 19mm glass joint end to be used as the herb basket and depending on the necessary clearance depth; the 19mm ground glass male end could either seat into the bottom of the herb chamber - or also through the full herb chamber but with the top chamber cap screen removed so that the end of the bowl could rest against the lower chamber screen. If you actually have all the necessary pieces in hand it would of course become quickly obvious which alternative would work better.

But woe is me......I have no 19mm glass stems to experiment with :(
 
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PPN

Volute of Vapor
Since the Apollo is a so beautifull tool with so much work I hesitate to mod it using cheap plumber teflon (is it safe?) or silicon...it works well enough for me as it comes but I'm still learning how to use it.

Yesterday I was very close to combustion (by mistake) without to use the boost, I had a 4mn dry session at 40% with amazing clouds and taste until the Apollo turn off itself. I decided there was still some goodies to extract and start another session at 50% and 60% but I quasi-combusted after some draws...the load was very fine grounded (not my habit).

I noticed a too coarse grind (or scissor grind) is giving an uneven abv and too fine grind can lead to combustion.

The only mod I done is to put a sort of reducer in the glass tube to fit a 14mm male glass stem or a nano stem or a Lotus WPA in order to get a longer vaporpath to cool the vapor .

My halogen metal tube is a bit misaligned with the bowl and the glass tube, there is a small enlightened gap, I don't know if it affects performances.

I'm in love with the Apollo, it's not perfect about functionnality but when it comes to vapor quality it is impressive. More for flavor connoisseurs than for clouds chasers.
 
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